I know I'll get shiit on for this post, but idc

[SW15]

@Reyaj more than likely she will text me and reach out asking about plans this Saturday. When she does I think I just might say something along the lines of: "That sound like a really fun plan, and I would love to meet your friends and go out to the club dancing, but if I am getting to the point where I am meeting a girls friend group and continuing like that, I would like to see some progress in other aspects of our relationship. I feel like the last few times we were getting close to being intimate you pulled away and were uninterested. I'm looking for something else than you are it seems."

Or is that too overt?

I like your style there.

 

[TheNewStyle123]

Yes, I think so. Although it looks like she got more than just the tip so unfortunately she's gonna burn in hell. You might as well go "all in" and do anal at this point.

Nah dude, anal is OK with the good Christian girls. The butthole doesn't count, remember?

 

[TheNewStyle123]

I like your style there.

Then so it shall be!!!

 

[ThisIsSparta]

@Reyaj more than likely she will text me and reach out asking about plans this Saturday. When she does I think I just might say something along the lines of: "That sound like a really fun plan, and I would love to meet your friends and go out to the club dancing, but if I am getting to the point where I am meeting a girls friend group and continuing like that, I would like to see some progress in other aspects of our relationship. I feel like the last few times we were getting close to being intimate you pulled away and were uninterested. I'm looking for something else than you are it seems."

Or is that too overt?

Mind your Karma...... if you say that you imply you see a future with her if she would just fvck you.

Thats another league then just being vague about wanting a relationship in general.

 

[TheNewStyle123]

Mind your Karma...... if you say that you imply you see a future with her if she would just fvck you.

Thats another league then just being vague about wanting a relationship in general.

Fair point man.. you’re right. Then I’m opening myself up to scrutiny by being transparent about what I want and expect…

 

[bat soup]

Nah dude, anal is OK with the good Christian girls. The butthole doesn't count, remember?

Out of respect for their beliefs, I always do the mouth first.

 

[Toddz]

Sounds like she wants a relationship and isn't going to give it up anytime soon. You might tap it this weekend, but at this point is it even worth it being that she lives 45 minutes away?

If it's me, I'd bail and tell her that you just don't sense a physical connection. Chicks that allow you to escalate to the point of sex then deny it are maddening. It's not worth the mental work/ jumping through hoops that they try putting you through. No pu$$y is worth it, thanks but no thanks.

 

[TheNewStyle123]

Sounds like she wants a relationship and isn't going to give it up anytime soon. You might tap it this weekend, but at this point is it even worth it being that she lives 45 minutes away?

If it's me, I'd bail and tell her that you just don't sense a physical connection. Chicks that allow you to escalate to the point of sex then deny it are maddening. It's not worth the mental work/ jumping through hoops that they try putting you through. No pu$$y is worth it, thanks but no thanks.

Well put man. I am going to definitely let her know I didn't feel a physical connection. Guilt her a little bit. Taking a condom off my erect penis..... you can fuuck right off..

 

[Lookatu]

Guys, anytime a girl uses sex for power is when you eject or don't let her play her game.

The fact that this girl went all the way practically to sex to shut OP down is a clear abuse of power and she knows it and knows she can get away with it. Not just in sex but she knows she can control other aspects of a guy that let's her get away with something like that.

It's true that "some" girls might wanna take it slow for various reasons(previous trauma, bad experiences, etc) but I don't sense that in this case because she let him practically go all the way with her. This is cleary an abuse of power.

Also important to note for newbies that some girls would rather have a good time(outside of sex) and so they are willing to put forth the effort for that like in OP's case where the girl was willing to go 45min out of her way and bring food. This doesn't mean that they want sex. They just want a good time(what's good in their eyes) and once again "control" the flow.

Also, get any Catholic crap or any excuse they spout out of your mind. Do NOT be phased by it or take it into any consideration. This is merely a tactic they use. Once again, actions over words. The most holy "christian" gals I knew were also some of the most sluttiest too.

 

[Lookatu]

Personally, I would've ejected already. But OP, if you want to experiment with shifting the power back to you, I would let her reach out and make the plans and make all the effort. If she's willing to do that, I'd meet up with her but do not be sexual or escalate. I'd feed her breadcrumbs like pecks of kisses here and there but that's it. This will spin up her hamster wheel and confuse the fvck out of her.

She will either be seducing YOU and riding your d1ck by the end of the night or she will go home feeling defeated and not-desirable because she lost the power over you.

 

[TheNewStyle123]

Personally, I would've ejected already. But OP, if you want to experiment with shifting the power back to you, I would let her reach out and make the plans and make all the effort. If she's willing to do that, I'd meet up with her but do not be sexual or escalate. I'd feed her breadcrumbs like pecks of kisses here and there but that's it. This will spin up her hamster wheel and confuse the fvck out of her.

She will either be seducing YOU and riding your d1ck by the end of the night or she will go home feeling defeated and not-desirable because she lost the power over you.

Yeah man good call. So many ways to play it right now. I definitely want a little revenge in the sense that I want this girl feel a loss of power. I have not reached out to her and will not from this point forward. If she sends me some BS text like "so, what is the plan for Saturday, are you coming out with my friends and I?" That's when I'll strike...

 

[Modern Man Advice]

This just isn't my week with the ladies, guys. I know I'll get some heat from the beta-ness of my actions tonight, but I don't care. I enjoy posting my mishaps and mistakes and having you guys critique me. It has helped me tremendously in the past. So here we go.

Went on a date with a Mexican girl last Sunday in Boston. We got coffee and walked around some trails along the river. We were sitting at a park bench when at some point when I decided to make my move. Things escalated heavily beyond kissing, to the point where I was groping her, she was kissing my neck, and I was grabbing her ass in public. She seemed really into me during the whole date, and especially then.

I set up a date for me to come to her place the following weekend (tonight). When I arrived, things started off hot from the get-go. Groping, making out, plenty of kino etc., but she had stopped me when I tried to escalate to sex within the first 30 min (had her on top of the kitchen sink). Ok, no problem. The night is young. We had dinner, drinks, danced, etc., with plenty of kino and making out. There was a perfect opportunity to move things to her bedroom (neighbor complained we were too loud with music in living room) so we did.

Now was my chance. I had her on the bed and began to escalate things. She stopped me. I got up, put my shirt on, smiled, and said "it's all good - no problem! It's getting late and I have to go anyways." This was something I picked up on from the forum previously; normally I would of continued to try. Anyways, lo and behold once I said that, she was all over me again. As I was exiting her room she got really aggressive.

I thought "fuuck it" and went along with it. We moved back into her bedroom, I literally bent her over her dresser, proceeded to eat her out while putting a condom on, stood up to begin fuucking her, and she STOPPED ME and coyly removed the condom while having her hand on my **** and kissing me and saying no. I felt defeated guys. Like WTF. I was doing everything to turn this girl on and she pulls this. She was so into it too. The only thing I can surmise (based off of her future talk, saying she liked me, etc.) is that she wants more and sees me as a quality guy and doesn't want to give me an easy lay. She even had the nerve to ask me to stay over, and asked what I was doing next weekend! She asked me to text her when I got home. No fuucking way I was doing that.

Anyways, my plan from this point forward. I am not reaching out and/or making plans. If this girl wants ANY shot at seeing me again she is going to have to uber to my place next weekend (she doesn't have a care and I live 40 min away), bring dinner and drinks, and if she doesn't fuuck me, I will gladly be driving her home.

Thoughts on this? Thanks boys. Go easy on me. Been a rough week with the ladies. Hoping going to the club tomorrow will yield better results.

Remember, women are the sex gatekeepers, men are the relationship gatekeepers. She simply was dangling that carrot in front of you and having you chase it. That is the only power she holds over you so you must be aloof and have plenty of options indirectly letting her know you can get sex anywhere, anytime (hopefully that's true). She will not refuse to give in to your sexual advances if she feels you can get it somewhere else and she won't control you like that.

Cut contact for a week and make her invest in you.

Modern Man Advice

 

[TheNewStyle123]

Remember, women are the sex gatekeepers, men are the relationship gatekeepers. She simply was dangling that carrot in front of you and having you chase it. That is the only power she holds over you so you must be aloof and have plenty of options indirectly letting her know you can get sex anywhere, anytime (hopefully that's true). She will not refuse to give in to your sexual advances if she feels you can get it somewhere else and she won't control you like that.

Cut contact for a week and make her invest in you.

Modern Man Advice

Thanks man!! Good tips

 

[TheNewStyle123]

This girl really just texted me today "Hey, how are you?" with a waving emoji. I am not trying to drive 40 minutes again (or drive her home because she doesn't have a car) to not get laid. This shows IL to me, but juice ain't worth the squeeze IMO.

 

[TheNewStyle123]

So a night of heavy oral wasn’t good enough for you? Hmmmm.
Im going to have to say this…I just have to…you couldn’t be more stupid.
There’s all kinds of things you could have been doing. But you jumped right to intercourse. For crying out loud.

No oral unfortunately.

 

[BMX]

This girl really just texted me today "Hey, how are you?" with a waving emoji. I am not trying to drive 40 minutes again (or drive her home because she doesn't have a car) to not get laid. This shows IL to me, but juice ain't worth the squeeze IMO.

It's time for you to stay home and jerk off to porn. It will do you a lot more good than the path you are on currently...

 

[TheNewStyle123]

It's time for you to stay home and jerk off to porn. It will do you a lot more good than the path you are on currently...

I'll hit her with the "you up?" lmao kidding. I just sent her a pretty straight forward text that I am not really looking to play games and haven't felt like she has really wanted to progress intimately with me last time (calling her out). What have I got to lose at this point.

 

[BMX]

Tell her to get you a chicken sammich and some waffle fries FO FREE. Because she's pretty much dunzo at this point in time.

 

[2Rocky]

When you have the logistics to have carnal intercourse, and begin the foreplay and she is breathing heavy , Tell her "I don't start things I don't finish" And if she objects, stand up and show her the door.

I find the best time to deliver that line is before we go into what ever the private logistics is when we are at the kissing and groping stage. She has to keep you there by escalating herself. In my experience it gives her the green light to be the aggressor. Best case scenario she will tell you "I want you to FaCK me!" Which has been the case a number of times when I've used that.

 

[PRW63]

The only thing I can surmise (based off of her future talk, saying she liked me, etc.) is that she wants more and sees me as a quality guy and doesn't want to give me an easy lay. She even had the nerve to ask me to stay over, and asked what I was doing next weekend! She asked me to text her when I got home. No fuucking way I was doing that.

Anyways, my plan from this point forward. I am not reaching out and/or making plans. If this girl wants ANY shot at seeing me again she is going to have to uber to my place next weekend (she doesn't have a care and I live 40 min away), bring dinner and drinks, and if she doesn't fuuck me, I will gladly be driving her home.

My thoughts? This reaction is a butt-hurt little boy,...and it sounds like a Corey Wayne recomendation. You're pouting that she didn't give it away. Sorry man. You asked my thoughts,...I won't lie. She doesn't "owe" you anything. The whole thing seemed like just another "Horny Teenager Story" to me, with the chick being nothing more than a breathing biological walking sex toy.