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i really do.....
i think if i were a guy id probs turn gay ha....
Girls are head cases, they can be all in to you and then for some stupid fu**ed up reason they ditch you out of nowhere......Time and time again i get rejected by girls and im fairly attractive myself and am a good person and still dont seem to "cut it" with them....so i understand how you guys feel when you get rejected by them or dumped for stupid reasons.....

I never used to understand the bitterness of some blokes on here with women but after my failing history with them i can totally see why and i dont blame any of you.

Anyway im giving up on women from now, they are not worth the heart ache or stress. Dont let rejection get to you guys, most of you seem like cool men! :) x
 

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most women are worthless...fact..you can't take their thoughts...or their opinions of you to heart...they are so fickle and judge on shallow stupid criteria and are just emotional headcases in general....with that being said...bang em and leave em unless they prove they are worthy
 

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Wow, I don't mean to sound petty but you've sure changed your tune from previously bagging the shyt out of guys here.
So does this mean you'll be rooting blokes now?
 

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Too late. Got her last night.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Cry me a fvcking river.
 

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DJgirl, a friend of mine--a bi girl just like you--a few years ago came to the exact same conclusion.

She had a LTR with a guy but would sleep with women on the side. One such woman suddenly got attached, turned BPD, flipped out, etc.

My friend was like, "What the heck is wrong with her??? Are women all crazy?"

My reply was, "Hey sweets, bang women if you want, but stick to relationships with men. Women are unmanagable and it gets works if you make them orgasm. Us straight guys are condemned to chasing the crazy, but you at least have options."

Or something like that.

Anyway, that's my advice to you. Want to munch some rug? Go for it. But as a bi-girl, want a relationship? Stick to the men. We at least have the potential for sanity.
 

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djgirl said:
i really do.....
i think if i were a guy id probs turn gay ha....
Girls are head cases, they can be all in to you and then for some stupid fu**ed up reason they ditch you out of nowhere......Time and time again i get rejected by girls and im fairly attractive myself and am a good person and still dont seem to "cut it" with them....so i understand how you guys feel when you get rejected by them or dumped for stupid reasons.....

I never used to understand the bitterness of some blokes on here with women but after my failing history with them i can totally see why and i dont blame any of you.

Anyway im giving up on women from now, they are not worth the heart ache or stress. Dont let rejection get to you guys, most of you seem like cool men! :) x
Good for you DJ - I think that what you want is totally reasonable and that you will get it, once you start looking in healthier avenues. Meet guys during the day time, don't assume that all they want to do is f*ck, take it slow and get to know them. You'll find someone you really connect with. And it IS cheating if you hook up with a girl while you are with someone, no matter what anyone else tells you.

Advice I've given girls in your situation before (trying to date guys) is to be submissive and be feminine, smile at the guy and show signs of interest. Don't play a lot of games with interest, it's ok to show interest and still take things slowly, it's even ok to tell the guy that you want to go slow because you know moving fast just doesn't work out well for what you want. Guys that just want to f*ck will bow out after a couple dates and no s3x, guys that like hanging out with you will stick around for (at least a bit) longer. But remember that you will be riding some c@ck and end up not liking the guy, it's a given and don't be surprised by that, it is all a part of mature relationships.

Good luck!
 

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yes i have changed my tune and have come to realize just how fu**ed women are whether they are gay/bi/straight.....so i do feel sorry for you blokes.

However im not saying that men are perfect, i have met my share of bad apples with them too but no they are not half as bad as women and dont play as many games as they do.

How am i suppose to meet decent guys though when i dont drink and the party/club scene isnt my thing?? this is always the trouble i have had when meeting people thats why i have resorted to online dating but ive pretty much given up on that as i find people just have unrealistic expectations on there. And are mostly all talk no action.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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djgirl said:
yes i have changed my tune and have come to realize just how fu**ed women are whether they are gay/bi/straight.....so i do feel sorry for you blokes.

However im not saying that men are perfect, i have met my share of bad apples with them too but no they are not half as bad as women and dont play as many games as they do.

How am i suppose to meet decent guys though when i dont drink and the party/club scene isnt my thing?? this is always the trouble i have had when meeting people thats why i have resorted to online dating but ive pretty much given up on that as i find people just have unrealistic expectations on there. And are mostly all talk no action.
Hobbies honey. That's how we do it. Meet new friends at hobby places and I'm sure some guy will like you. We are not that hard. Look decent and have fun personality and respect and he most likely will be infatuated.
 

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zinc4 said:
most women are worthless...fact..you can't take their thoughts...or their opinions of you to heart...they are so fickle and judge on shallow stupid criteria and are just emotional headcases in general....with that being said...bang em and leave em unless they prove they are worthy
So negative... But I agree. Truth hurts, eh? :cry:
 

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depends on what you define as decent guys. There are a lot of decent guys that don't drink at all but you might contradictorally view them as pvssies. I had a friend in AA who couldn't drink or do drugs herself anymore but looked down on guys who didn't drink or do drugs as basically "nice guys". It was very frustrating for her. So she needed a values adjustment. I'll tell you I had mine when I got burned by a BPD psychopath, now the party girls don't interest me at all.
You definitely learn a lot after enough run-in's with *****es, sluts, crazies, and other "exciting" trash. Or being involved in that scene / lifestyle altogether. Especially when you actually get away from it, and realize how toxic those people were. I don't think you realize when you're actually caught up in it / dating lunatics - because it feels normal and familiar at the time.

I used to associate with NOTHING but *******s, players, losers, and other dysfunctional people of both genders. It's all I knew, and felt comfortable with. It felt NORMAL to be bullied, used, insulted, manipulated, played, belittled, judged, competed against; to have depression, high stress, and low self-esteem.

I didn't realize at the time that they were just dysfunctional, arrogant, selfish, egotistical *******s who treated people like ****, and projected their own failures and insecurities out on others, and had to be better than everyone else at everything - lest they tear them down and destroy their self-esteem - to bring them down way below their level.

No, it all felt normal, and "right". All their insults were true - because they were repeated among the same group(s) of *******s everywhere - and for the same reasons. Not realizing that they were all just *******s who attack, degrade, bully, keep people on the defensive, and turn everything around on others - without ever accepting blame or responsibility for anything. Everyone they are attacking is just flawed and worthless. Never any positivity at all. Just a lot of competing and tearing down - then kicking them repeatedly to make sure they don't get back up. As well as targeting the weak, and using their insecurities against them. Nobody is jealous or hating - you're just conceited; you have nothing they want; everything you have is ****; you're just a loser; nobody likes you. Etc. This, AFTER they see you being successful, having what they want, being jealous and hating, and attacking you because of these reasons to begin with.

**** them losers. :cuss: :box: :cuss: :box: :cuss: :box: :cuss:

Damn rant mode. So yea, change is good, and what feels normal isn't necessarily right, and there's good people who aren't like this out there. ****, I moved 8 states away just to find it. :cheer:
 

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One good thing about experiencing all this bad **** / toxic people, though... You learn to assert yourself, not take or believe any bull****, recognize losers for what they are, understand their tactics and mindset, choose better people, change your lifestyle, etc. That is, after the hate, bitterness, and revengeful mindset subsides. Red pilling. :up:
 

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Hobbies...and just wherever you are if you see a guy you think is good looking or your type start a benign conversation with him. Be indirect, but be a bit flirty after a while. believe it or not a lot of awesome guys just don't know how to flirt, but would probably make you happy in a long term relationship. It's kinda scary to face possible rejection like that but it's unlikely if you are indirect anyway. You will have a sh*t ton more options of men if you are the one opening them (but not in a "let's f*ck" kind of way rather just start a conversation and see how things go). Rejection like that doesn't sting at all you can get a sense of who they are and decide whether or not to move things forward with them.


Most girls are scared sh*tless to approach a guy, because they fear rejection. But if they did they would get very few rejections and they would meet way better guys for them. It's just in HOW they do it. Just start chatting and give the guy a chance to talk about different topics until you both find something to discuss that you are interested in.
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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djgirl said:
yes i have changed my tune and have come to realize just how fu**ed women are whether they are gay/bi/straight.....so i do feel sorry for you blokes.

However im not saying that men are perfect, i have met my share of bad apples with them too but no they are not half as bad as women and dont play as many games as they do.

How am i suppose to meet decent guys though when i dont drink and the party/club scene isnt my thing?? this is always the trouble i have had when meeting people thats why i have resorted to online dating but ive pretty much given up on that as i find people just have unrealistic expectations on there. And are mostly all talk no action.

just sounds like an excuse to me. i don't like going to clubs either. loud music, the drama of it all. I don't even drink and i still try to manage to make it there AT LEAST once a week.

you got to go where your type of people are.
 

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djgirl said:
yes i have changed my tune and have come to realize just how fu**ed women are whether they are gay/bi/straight.....so i do feel sorry for you blokes.

However im not saying that men are perfect, i have met my share of bad apples with them too but no they are not half as bad as women and dont play as many games as they do.

How am i suppose to meet decent guys though when i dont drink and the party/club scene isnt my thing?? this is always the trouble i have had when meeting people thats why i have resorted to online dating but ive pretty much given up on that as i find people just have unrealistic expectations on there. And are mostly all talk no action.
I don't drink or smoke and hate going to clubs/bars. Many women don't. There's a lot of bad and good out there. But I'm pretty much in the same boat. I can't even be bothered dating anymore. Is it worth the trouble just to get laid? Not to me.
 

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Dating is easy if you kino and kiss very early....i used to hate dating as well....sitting there making BS short convo and waiting, but now i figured out just go for it all early in the date and if she isn't into you at all, she will make it very obvious and you can end the date pronto and say this isn't going anywhere goodbye, but if she is interested in the slightest...the date will be very fun after that... and you can be as aggressive as you want because she will like it

And i don't like nightclubs if i am not drinking but enjoy them a lot when drinking...i just don't see the point in going without drinking...
 
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