I just want to be lean.

[The Greatest Ever]

I am 5'10 to 5'11 and I weigh 185 and I am 19. I have a little gut you cannot see it when I have a shirt on. But when I take it off you can. I really don't care about being ripped right now. I

I just want to be lean and slim.

I want some help and I want the do's and don'ts about what I eat.

I eat some of the same things daily.

I eat cereal in the morning and a sandwhich at lunch.

Dinner could be anything from. Lean pockets, sandwhich with wheat bread, PB & J, frozen pizza.


I also eat salads, yogart, crackers.


I want to know what out of those things should I cut out due to fat.

Tommrow is my first day at the new gym I joined. I will workout anywhere from 3-5 days a week.

If I am working on getting lean should I just focus on cardio. Such as basketballl and running and the treadmill?

If I eat cereal before bed will that hurt my goal?

How many fat grams should I eat a day?

I want to be at 160-165.


Thanks

 

[chim_chim]

Diesel's guide to cutting:
http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18059


Your diet looks pretty good to me. Are you just starting working out now, or have you been working out for awhile?

 

[The Greatest Ever]

Originally posted by chim_chim
Diesel's guide to cutting:
http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18059


Your diet looks pretty good to me. Are you just starting working out now, or have you been working out for awhile?

I am just starting to work out. Tommrow will be my first day I wanted to lift some weights. But I'll try some cardio first.

 

[hardwork]

Originally posted by The Greatest Ever
I eat cereal in the morning and a sandwhich at lunch.

Dinner could be anything from. Lean pockets, sandwhich with wheat bread, PB & J, frozen pizza.


I also eat salads, yogart, crackers.

This really doesn't tell us much. Can you be more specific?

 

[-k2]

If you really wanna lose weight, your gonna have to count calories. Or you can just try to eat healthy, don't eat alot of sweets etc. If you eat fast food, try to eat good fast food, without alot of extra fat.

Doing that got me from 215 when i started college(aug 02) , to 180 now. But it's stopped now, so i assume im going to have to start fine tuning my diet and make it my goal to have a negative calorie deficiet each day. Thats the only way to lose it.

Some people say weightloss is all about cardio. Its not, it comes down to taking in less calories then you burn every day. Every 3500 calories you burn, is another pound gone. If I was you, I would try to eat alot of low-fat meat. Like cook a chicken breast in a half tablespoon of olive oil, season the **** out of it, and its good as hell, and only like 250 calories 6 grams of fat. If your gonna eat a salad, dont ruin it with 3 serving size portions of fatty dressing.

Yes, you should avoid cereal before going to bed, eat carbs and then not using them will just get them stored as fat.

http://www.twowiresthin.com/wl2003/index.html

Check out that link, that guy went from 215 in 160, in less then 6 months. He tells how he did it, through eating right, HIIT, and weightlifiting. Take a look at his eating habits. Thats the kind of dedication it takes to lose that weight that quick.

Heres a link about HIIT, its what you wan't to do for maximum fatloss.

http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp

 

[The Greatest Ever]

Re: Re: I just want to be lean.

Originally posted by Von Neuen
This really doesn't tell us much. Can you be more specific?

Monday-

Breakfest -Frosted flakes

Lunch- Ham and chesse sandwhich on wheat bread.

Dinner- Two lean pockets

Before bed- Apple jacks


Tuesday

Breakfest- Frosted flakes

Lunch- Oatmeal

Dinner- PB@J sandwhich on wheat bread.


Wednesday

Breakfest -Frosted flakes

Lunch- Sandwhich

Dinner- Half of a frozen pizza

Sometimes I skip lunch or breakfest and I snack on. Crackers or grapes.


Von Neuen,

I hoped this helped you alot a little.

 

[The Greatest Ever]

Originally posted by -k2
If you really wanna lose weight, your gonna have to count calories. Or you can just try to eat healthy, don't eat alot of sweets etc. If you eat fast food, try to eat good fast food, without alot of extra fat.

Doing that got me from 215 when i started college(aug 02) , to 180 now. But it's stopped now, so i assume im going to have to start fine tuning my diet and make it my goal to have a negative calorie deficiet each day. Thats the only way to lose it.

Some people say weightloss is all about cardio. Its not, it comes down to taking in less calories then you burn every day. Every 3500 calories you burn, is another pound gone. If I was you, I would try to eat alot of low-fat meat. Like cook a chicken breast in a half tablespoon of olive oil, season the **** out of it, and its good as hell, and only like 250 calories 6 grams of fat. If your gonna eat a salad, dont ruin it with 3 serving size portions of fatty dressing.

Yes, you should avoid cereal before going to bed, eat carbs and then not using them will just get them stored as fat.

http://www.twowiresthin.com/wl2003/index.html

Check out that link, that guy went from 215 in 160, in less then 6 months. He tells how he did it, through eating right, HIIT, and weightlifiting. Take a look at his eating habits. Thats the kind of dedication it takes to lose that weight that quick.

Heres a link about HIIT, its what you wan't to do for maximum fatloss.

http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp

Thanks.

 

[Chewy Bagel]

Re: Re: Re: I just want to be lean.

Originally posted by The Greatest Ever
Monday-

Breakfest -Frosted flakes

Lunch- Ham and chesse sandwhich on wheat bread.

Dinner- Two lean pockets

Before bed- Apple jacks


Tuesday

Breakfest- Frosted flakes

Lunch- Oatmeal

Dinner- PB@J sandwhich on wheat bread.


Wednesday

Breakfest -Frosted flakes

Lunch- Sandwhich

Dinner- Half of a frozen pizza

Sometimes I skip lunch or breakfest and I snack on. Crackers or grapes.


Von Neuen,

I hoped this helped you alot a little.

Wow... you eat alot of sugar and fat and not very much protein.

I drink alot of milk about .5 to 1 full gallon per day, I drink about 100g of whey protein per day and I'll have a dinner of some kind of meat like chicken or beef with either pasta, rice or potatoe. I've been working out for 14 years.

I think it's great that you're at least trying to get into shape. Kudos!

CB

 

[hardwork]

Advice from a rail-thin bean pole...!

Originally posted by The Greatest Ever
Monday-

Breakfest -Frosted flakes

Lunch- Ham and chesse sandwhich on wheat bread.

Dinner- Two lean pockets

Before bed- Apple jacks

Like someone mentioned before, you eat a lot of (read: too much) sugar. (Cereal! Eww!) And Lean Pockets? Where's the real food at?

If you want to get fat, eat something sugary and/or starchy right before you go to bed. Apple Jacks works very well in this capacity.

Originally posted by The Greatest Ever
Tuesday

Breakfest- Frosted flakes

Lunch- Oatmeal

Dinner- PB@J sandwhich on wheat bread.

Too much sugar, again.

I love it: peanut butter and JELLY on WHEAT bread. That's like buying a huge Big Mac, extra-huge fries... and a Diet Coke.

Originally posted by The Greatest Ever
Wednesday

Breakfest -Frosted flakes

Lunch- Sandwhich

Dinner- Half of a frozen pizza

Again I send you the ol' "Too much sugar" and "Where's the real food at," where "pizza" isn't "real food."

Originally posted by The Greatest Ever
Sometimes I skip lunch or breakfest and I snack on. Crackers or grapes.

Owie. Skipping breakfast is murder on your metabolism.

See, if you want to lose weight, then you want your metabolism running at top speed for as long as you can keep it there. It's kinda like a car with start-and-stop driving: that's bad for you car. It's somewhat "better" for your car for you to keep it running for longer periods of time. ('Better' = 'more efficient')

(Breakfast, as the name suggests, is the time during which you should break the fast incurred by hours and hours of sleep. Your metabolism basically stopped running at top efficiency sometime during the night, and it's breakfast's job to kick your body back into gear.)

Keeping your metabolism running will use up those extra calories (from fat and the others you've built up from a lifetime of eating... well, garbage).

Eat a bunch of small meals. (Your body will keep itself running in the "okay-let's-digest-some-food-and-send-nutrients-where-they-need-to-go" mode. This is a good mode to be in ) I'm not talking about "a lean pocket here, a banana there," I'm talking about, basically, what's already been covered in DIESEL's Guide to Cutting Up. Make sure your meals are food-food!

Originally posted by The Greatest Ever
Von Neuen,

I hoped this helped you alot a little.

Right back at ya, buck-a-roo.

 

[-k2]

PB&J aren't that bad. Just go light jelly and light peanut butter. I don't drink soda, dont eat candy bars or chips, ice cream or pastries, you will not take my PB&J.

 

[The Greatest Ever]

Von Neuen,

I don't live with the parents anymore and I am a college student and I don't know who to cook.



That's why I don't eat any real food.

I see where all of the sugar is coming from like you guys said. Is it okay to have Cereal for breakfest.

Is that okay to be my only sugar?

NO food before bed.

What are some small meals you recommend I can eat. I really cannot cook at all. Anything would be helpful.

Even if I have to cook it. I will have my gf show me how.

What do you recommend me doing in the gym. If I am just starting out and I want to be leaner?

 

[loveprefect]

my way

this is my way of achieving significant weight loss within a short period of time.

ALWAYS have a proper breakfast. i usually eat wholewheat bread and a glass of fruit juice.

the place i work is a few kilometres away from the place i stay. instead of taking the bus, i walk to work and walk back home. It takes around 50 minutes each trip.

i consider walking as a way of working out and it reduces my urge to eat a lot.

one more thing is everytime you feel hungry in between meals( say between the time you eat your lunch and dinner) try to eat some fruits. you won't feel hungry anymore and by doing so you won't eat that much during your dinner.

the trick is to keep your stomach stuffed with little amount of food all day instead of taking in huge amount of food during lunch and dinner.

 

[wheelin&dealin]

Originally posted by -k2
PB&J aren't that bad. Just go light jelly and light peanut butter. I don't drink soda, dont eat candy bars or chips, ice cream or pastries, you will not take my PB&J.

Peanut Butter and Jam sandwiches are an excellent choice for a snack because of all the good fats and protein you get from the peanut butter. Just make sure to get a jam that is sweetened with sucralose so that you don't consume much sugar.

 

[wheelin&dealin]

Re: my way

Originally posted by loveprefect
one more thing is everytime you feel hungry in between meals( say between the time you eat your lunch and dinner) try to eat some fruits. you won't feel hungry anymore and by doing so you won't eat that much during your dinner.

Fruits are actually not very good for you because of all the sugar in them. This will spike your insulin, make you drowsy and encourage you to eat more after the insulin drops.

Stick with lo GI foods so that this will not happen.

 

[andyh]

not all fruits has high GI, fruits contain fructose which is a relative slow carbohydrate. That is why All-bran fruit has a lower GI than regular All-Bran

Fruits(GI)
========
Apple(52)
Orange(62)
Grapefruit(36)
Peach(40)
Pear(51)
Plum(34)
Cherrys(32)

These values have White bread as standard NOT glucose(White bread = 100, glycose= 137)

As you see these fruits are not very high GI and since Rice varies from 68 to 83 I should say that its acceptable to eat all of these fruits.

 

[Golden Arms]

Stay away from fruit, unless (maybe) it's post-workout along with a protein shake

Most people don't know this cause they think fruit is "healthy" and all that crap, but fructose gets stored into body fat faster than table sugar.

 

[andyh]

Originally posted by Golden Arms
Stay away from fruit, unless (maybe) it's post-workout along with a protein shake

Most people don't know this cause they think fruit is "healthy" and all that crap, but fructose gets stored into body fat faster than table sugar.

Fructose GI=22

http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_food_diet/glycemic_index.php

I don't see how it could be stored as fat faster than tablesugar if it has a lower GI. Besides one apple contains only 15grams carbohydrates thats aprox. 60kcal.

 

[Golden Arms]

Originally posted by andyh
Fructose GI=22

http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_food_diet/glycemic_index.php

I don't see how it could be stored as fat faster than tablesugar if it has a lower GI. Besides one apple contains only 15grams carbohydrates thats aprox. 60kcal.

hmm interesting. Fructose has a GI of 22 but some fruits have a GI as high as 72 (watermelon) which is, in fact, higher than table sugar. Cherries is the only fruit in that table that has an actual GI of 22.

I think the best bet is to stay clear of simple carbs except post-workout - stick to complex carbs like yams and oatmeal

 

[MVPlaya]

There's a guide at the top of Health and Fitness (The Guide to Cutting Up) don't do all the muscle exercises, but do a few to get rid of some fat while eating what the guide tells you to.

 

[jive]

DO lift weights if you want to get lean faster. Read through the replies in the cutting guide for more info.