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Iceberg said:
Were you two even banging? Maybe I don't know the back story here, but it just seems like this is a girl you were interested in.



Yes. You are taking it too seriously, because this girl doesn't owe you a thing, and you don't owe her a thing. It's not her responsibility to update you on her sex life.

If she was your girlfriend, and she's cheating on you, then yeah...she's a skank and you should be furious. If she was your girlfriend, then I'm sorry for my callous response. But if she's just some girl you liked, then yeah...you have bigger things to worry about.



You should learn to be a man, and stop placing women on pedestals.
She was my girl for a brief period, I'm just disappointed that she lied straight to my face even after i quizzed her on kissing him that time in the cafe. She knew I couldn't see properly and I couldn't believe she had the audacity to not only lie but participate in that.

I genuinely cared for this girl and I still don't understand why she'd lie when right there and then it happened. Did she take the easier option?

I feel so stupid for believing her that day and came across really insecure when in effect i was right but i didn't trust my eyes.

If all girls are like this is there much point in getting involved with these lying b1tches? It's like there's no hope of finding a genuinely good girl. I just want to bang girls and break their hearts after this experience.
 

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Please dont reply to her ever again.
Wanna bet?

The guy has 4-5 different usernames with tons of messages on his threads, and NOT ONCE he has followed anyone's suggestion. Au contraire he has always done the opposite of what he was told and became a poster model of what not to do.

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Pikachu, to be pretty honest, the girl is doing anything she can to get away from you. She resorted to making out with the other guy in front of you; because no matter what she does or says you never get a clue. She's desperately trying to hurt you because openly telling that she despises you hasn't helped.

You either MAN UP or move to another place, or soon you'll be posting about not understanding why she got a restraining order against you.

You're acting like a MANIAC / like a STALKER. Get a f*****ing grip... It's not that you don't believe your eyesight, you just don't believe anything that goes against the obvious idea that she will never want to see you again...

SHE WILL NOT APOLOGIZE, SHE HAS NOTHING TO APOLOGIZE FOR...
 

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Move on kid, dont reward her any more power by being a needy wuss bag who is feeling hurt.


Trust me on this, the best thing you can do right now is to bag another chick, let her see you with the other chick, stick your tongue down the throat of other chick.

If you cant do that, at the very least you need to cut this women out like a cancer, the more you go back positive or negative conflict is just rewarding her more of an ego validation boost.

Dont be a chump.

Forget about her and move on. Acting the way your doing is painting yourself with a large sign across your fore-head that screams 'looser' in her eyes.

Ask yourself this question would a man with options an Alpha stud be doing what your doing? Nope he would be banging her sister or her mum.

And in the real world of women, that is the only way your going to get back at her. The rest is awarding her attention, women love attention, dont give them what they want.

P.S never write a women who treats you badly a love letter again, you simpering wuss! Sorry but that is how women will see you.

Also you have alot to learn about women. Women lie, so do men, but get this in your head; A women can lie to you, her BF whilst riding some other mans hard co** and you just happened to ring her. I have yet to meet a gods honest to truth women who hasn't lied about some shi*.

Women lie about how many partners they have.
Women lie about the male friend orbitors who want to fuc& em (see your girl for a perfect example).
Women lie with make-up.
Women overstate their social status more often then not.

Women lie just has freely has men do, if not more.

I hear what you're saying man, it makes sense and is hitting hard.

I'm leaving by this weekend so she won't matter anymore. But if all women are like this, what will make her be loyal and faithful to this guy?

I have to admit these 2 are more suited to each other than I would be and I can't stand in the way of that however I think he's a cvnt when he tried making me look bad in front of her that time. He's clearly read some pick up material or 48 laws of power books. I guess I'm just bitter that I didn't get to at least bang her cos I could walk away with some satisfaction.

It's a good thing I did what I did seeing what I saw cos had I not gone to the bar which I was tempted not to do I would have thought she was this perfect angel and I did wrong and I'd never know, and had I bumped into her again in future I'd think she's this great girl who I messed up with.

Is he more than likely going to encounter her lying at some point in the future?

She's very secretive and I guess my letter basically saying how great she was for this and this reason then me sending that text a few hours after basically saying i'm disappointed that she wasn't the girl i thought she was should hit her hard.

I mean do these things really hurt girls if they dont care about you?

Would she really care what I think of her?
 

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pikachu69 said:
She was my girl for a brief period, I'm just disappointed that she lied straight to my face even after i quizzed her on kissing him that time in the cafe. She knew I couldn't see properly and I couldn't believe she had the audacity to not only lie but participate in that.

I genuinely cared for this girl and I still don't understand why she'd lie when right there and then it happened. Did she take the easier option?

I feel so stupid for believing her that day and came across really insecure when in effect i was right but i didn't trust my eyes.

If all girls are like this is there much point in getting involved with these lying b1tches? It's like there's no hope of finding a genuinely good girl. I just want to bang girls and break their hearts after this experience.
So you dated her for like two weeks and it ended? This really doesn't seem like it's worth getting worked up about.

Are all girls like this? You know damn well that's a stupid question. That's like when that fat depressed woman in the bar says that "All men are dogs." Get out of that loser's mentality and improve yourself.

The fact that you're on the internet all broken up about some girl you barely dated tells me that you don't have much going for yourself. Go build a life, and then focus on women.
 

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Iceberg said:
So you dated her for like two weeks and it ended? This really doesn't seem like it's worth getting worked up about.

Are all girls like this? You know damn well that's a stupid question. That's like when that fat depressed woman in the bar says that "All men are dogs." Get out of that loser's mentality and improve yourself.

The fact that you're on the internet all broken up about some girl you barely dated tells me that you don't have much going for yourself. Go build a life, and then focus on women.
we were on and off for 3 months probably 5 months now if u include the time between when it was over till now.

I just was so shocked she would lie straight to my face like that, my ego has taken a really battering because ok i lost, i understand but I'm satisfied I f'd it up rather than he took her from me.

I had the opportunity to have her and I messed up. At NY eve when she wanted me, he was there too, he just took my place. I can only blame myself for how this turned out. That was my last chance. 3days before NY eve i did the stupidest thing telling her 'i've been seeing someone else, well someones else' and she walked off. the next night she was out on a date with him.

I'm to blame for that, plus also that particular afternoon i noticed he was waiting around for her to show. had i stayed in the cafe I could have c0ckblocked him. It was devastating watching him with her tonight, another guy fine at least i know i wasn't lied to that time. what a b1tch.
 

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pikachu_69 said:
we were on and off for 3 months probably 5 months now if u include the time between when it was over till now.

I just was so shocked she would lie straight to my face like that, my ego has taken a really battering because ok i lost, i understand but I'm satisfied I f'd it up rather than he took her from me.

I had the opportunity to have her and I messed up. At NY eve when she wanted me, he was there too, he just took my place. I can only blame myself for how this turned out. That was my last chance. 3days before NY eve i did the stupidest thing telling her 'i've been seeing someone else, well someones else' and she walked off. the next night she was out on a date with him.

I'm to blame for that, plus also that particular afternoon i noticed he was waiting around for her to show. had i stayed in the cafe I could have c0ckblocked him. It was devastating watching him with her tonight, another guy fine at least i know i wasn't lied to that time. what a b1tch.
Whatever. Stop acting like a schoolgirl and get over it.
 

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Originally posted by pikachu69

Are all girls like this??

I'm having a real crisis right now, I thought this girl was a good girl deep down but the lying straight to my face and making me look stupid i find so offensive, i could have taken her telling me the truth and walked away a bit angry but at least i'd know i was wasting my time but being led on after she still was covering her a$$. b1tch. I hope that cvnt gets screwed over like i did later on.
brother, you are sooo consumed with you OWN PERCEPTION of what this women is SUPPOSE to be like. her lying to your face does not make you look stupid. you ASKING her and expecting her to validate what you just saw is more stupid than that.

i DONT think you could have taken her telling you the truth either. why would that make a difference? so she'd honest and not wanting to be with you vs. a liiar and not wanting to be with you... how does this benefit YOU?

subconciously, you are finding anything to hold onto. anything that will continue to attach you with this girl.

DO all girls behave like this once they've lost interest in you? Am i taking her lying straight to my face when I thought (And did) see them kissing that day too seriously?
YES. you are taking this tooo seriously. when you realize that she does not OWE you the truth, that she does not OWE you anything, you will be better off.


It just seems so dishonest.

The consequence is that im going to have serious trust issues with women in future and if im trying to improve my game and inner game more importantly how is an incident like this suppose to make me better as a recovering AFC?

What should I learn/take from this seemingly awful experience?
alot of other posters will tell you different, or simply disagree with me, but IMO, i am a firm believer that you cannot work on ANY GAME, without fixing your INNER GAME first. that should be your focal point.

stop making HER more important than YOU. THIS IS YOUR WORLD, you control all things. do what you want, say what you want. When someone does not appreciate you. you realize that it is their loss.

treat yourself much better than you are brother. and focus on your innergame, thats what needs work, thats the only thing that matters
 

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Did you sleep with her? You did not answer this question. She was not your gf.

Now you are still living in your blindspots by refusing to see IT WAS YOU not her, that was the problem here. You are putting yourself in the "victim" position and doing girly, femenine statements like "Are all girls like this"? Listen to yourself, you sound like a woman.

You stalked her, she didn't even know how to get rid of you, so she did the best to avoid you, and you didn't want to get the hint, and now she's the bitsh? She did what any girl would have done when being stalked, obsessed over and harrased by an afc orbiter she had absolutely no interes in. You couldn't and wouldn't take "no" for an answer. She knew better than to tell you the truth when answering your jealous and needy questions. You couldn't handle the obvious truth. Does a girl have a right to choose who she wants to date without having to take $hit for it from a creepy dude who just won't let her do what makes her happy?

How long are planning on dwelling on this on, playing victim, and feeling sorry for yourself about why are girls this way towards you?

You need to take responsibility for your own happiness and move on and learn from this. Coming in here to get pitty from a few guys who don't know or quite remember the whole story is only going to delay your recovery.
 

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First off let me say, I know how you are feeling right now. It sucks. Let me guess. All you can do is think about her. Like literally thats all thats on your mind. No matter what people say to you, tell you to do. No matter what you do, or where you go. I know how it is, and really there is nothing you can consciously do about it. My situation is obviously different than yours, hell i dont think many people EVER go through with your situation because you are so off course here its unbelievable. Like I said there isnt anything you can do to get over her, except truly 100% LETTING GO! That was my problem also.

I think everyday about the mistakes i made, but there is nothing i can do about it now. yeah when we first broke up, I allowed it to get the best of me and my mind was completely ****ed. And I was harping on everything, wondering wtf happend. Then I realized, that although I was trying really hard to stick to the DJ path and way of life, that thinking back, I really wasnt doing so. Yeah at first I was and it went fxcking great. But thinking back im like holy **** I over analyzed things way too much, I started caring too much, I didnt put ME first or what I wanted first. I wasnt being decisive anymore or acting in control. AND I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE IT. I started to change my behaviour, even though I tried my hardest not to.

So after thinking about it for a few weeks I finally realized something. over the last 8 months, I have changed a hell of a lot. Im not the wuss I used to be, but it isnt completely gone. Im much happier with myself than I used to be, but ive seen over time that some of my values and good behaviours I used to have, have gone dormant. I worked hard on my OUTER GAME, but that just wasnt enough. Am I more confident, hell yeah I am. Have I rid myself of securities? Id like to think so, but im not perfect, I still need to work. Like DavenJuan said above, its the INNER GAME that is truly important. If your inner game is down, than naturally your outer game should improve as well. So I took a step back and evaluated myself. Over the last 8 months my success with women has increased 10 fold. Overall, Id say im much better off. But ive seen that what made me ME has seemed to have gone in hiding.

Coinsidently over the past 8 months I started smoking weed regularly. It was once a week, but summer came around it was more and more,until it was everyday. In the summer, theres no problem with that. I had the best summer ever. But summer ended, and I kept up the habbit. Never do I not want to smoke up. It makes everything better, everything. I was never bored, it made everything and anything more enjoyable. But recently ive assessed myself. While i love herb, I love myself more. My best interest is most important. So im taking a bit of a break, it sucks because im bored as **** sometimes, but I need to see what its like again. I feel that what made me a great person before, is kind of no longer there. I failed to manage myself properly and have recognized that I need to change. I know people who are high at ALL times, and i DO NOT want to be like them. they dont see how ****ed they are. over the past 8 months ive put my fitness first and will continue to do so as it makes me feel great, look great and gives me confidence. I am working on being the always positive, out going, kind person I used to be. I am working on my INNER GAME. Making me, a better me. Taking all ive learned, and bringing it together with what me such a likeable person with a solid ground. the best of both worlds. Im not going to stop what works, im just going to work on ME. Weed has also opened up my mind and has changed me forever, in a GOOD way. But ive seen that ive temporally changed in a few BAD ways. I will work on bettering myself, and will smoke weed again, but I wont let it get the best of me. I am not addicted to it, its just something that makes me feel good, and why would i not want to feel good all the time? But why cant I feel good all the time without it? Thats what im working on, getting to a state of enlightenment i guess youd call it.

I think you NEED to work on your INNER GAME, big time. Not to be mean, but after reading your posts, I really cant come up for a word for it. Simply put, YOU DO NOT GET IT.

You said in your OP that you are sorry for not listening to all the advice on the forum, that all the advice was right and you were wrong. So why are you not listening to people now. I wish I had stuck more to my guns along the way, and I wish i would have listened a little more to the advice i got on the forum. THIS SH1T WORKS. IT IS RIGHT. Do not let other people tell you otherwise. I love getting both sides to everything, but I realize that YOU WILL HEAR WANT YOU WANT TO HEAR. AND DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AT HEART EVEN IF YOU KNOW IT ISNT RIGHT. You will think what you want. You must step back and consider things man. Youre being absolutely rediculous about this. Step in her shoes. Its totally creepy dude. Maybe you havent ever had someone interested in you that you have NO interest in. Its a great feeling when someone likes you and you know that they like you. Its even better when the feeling is mutual. But when you arent attracted to them for whatever reason and someone just cant take a hint, it sucks big time. I dont like hurting feelings, and id like to think most people dont either. But some people like the feeling of someone so interested them that they dont do what is best for both parties. It comes down to selfishness really. Sometimes the right thing to do and have to do, is to be blunt. but not in a bad way, thats just plain immature, disrespectful and something I wont tolerate. Be real, thats my motto and how I try and live. Be you, dont let anything stop you from doing what you want, girls want a guy who dosnt compromise themselves. At the same time, you need to rationalize this, and all your actions really. Think of what outcome you want, and think what the best path is to get there. You need better judgement, and the only way to get it is with experience. the only way to get experience is to work on yourself. INNER GAME.

What you need to do is SERIOUSLY listen to the advice you are given. And think about it. And think about it some more. and some more. you want to know what you need to do? You need to LET GO COMPLETELY. MOVE ON. FIND SOMEONE ELSE. You need to learn how to control yourself, your emotions and your thought process. You are drowning in the deep end and people are trying to pull you out, but you seem to prefer to drown.

You sound like a good guy man. DONT LET ANYTHING GET YOU DOWN. People like being around positive and happy people. Dont be negative. Just forget about her. Let her do what she wants, and DO WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU. As for her not appologizing:

Back in the early summer, met this girl I knew of at a bar. We end up dancing, leads to furious making out and intense grinding. I get her number, we text etc. Next thing I know, this monster of a human, who is her ex, is apparently looking for me. Ive heard stories of this man, things hes done to people you dont ever want to happen to you. i dont know if they are still seeing each, still talking, still dating, or if she just wanted to make him jealous. Regardless I didnt want any part of it. She kept trying to talk to me, but enough was enough. I told her to stop contacting me, that she was trouble and I dont want any part of it. She appologizes for the bfs behaviour.Shed always try and text me etc. but I never responded. A month later I see her again somewhere and shes like im so sorry blah blah blah. Im like i dont need to hear it. This made this chick dig me so hard.She promised me the ex was out of the equation. I ease the impossible challenge a bit and so we start seeing each other for a bit. I was still learning, and didnt do the best. I dont remember cuz it was so long ago, but it didnt work out, and so we just stopped talking.whatever learning experience man. To cut to the chase, a month ago ( like 5 months later) I run into her in the mall. Talk to her very briefly, with 0 hard feelings. I forgot about her actually. After seeing her, like a week or 2 later she IM's me out of the blue. Im like wtf does this broad want. Turns out, its been eating her alive. Shes like I know it may be weird, but I couldnt take it anymore. After I saw you at the mall, I thought back to when we were seeing each other, and I feel so bad what happend. Im so sorry, youre such an awesome guy, I had to tell to you that. Your great, but I wasnt feeling it. I was totally taken back, like holy sh1t. I had to ask her exactly what she was appologizing for, cuz i really wasnt even sure. But the point of it is man, girls often make NO SENSE WHAT SO EVER. Their actions,words, thinking just make 0 sense sometimes. Thats why its up to YOU to work on YOURSELF, so you can diffuse the silly things girls do and handle them.

So in your case theres a few options:

A) You are so wrong here, you dont know whats going on.
B)She just wants to get rid of you right now.
C)She is so oblivious of her actions she dosnt realize what a cvnt shes being.

Whatever it is, does it really matter? Put yourself first. For whatever reason she does not want to be with you right now. So move on and find someone who does.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Did you sleep with her? You did not answer this question. She was not your gf.

Now you are still living in your blindspots by refusing to see IT WAS YOU not her, that was the problem here. You are putting yourself in the "victim" position and doing girly, femenine statements like "Are all girls like this"? Listen to yourself, you sound like a woman.

You stalked her, she didn't even know how to get rid of you, so she did the best to avoid you, and you didn't want to get the hint, and now she's the bitsh? She did what any girl would have done when being stalked, obsessed over and harrased by an afc orbiter she had absolutely no interes in. You couldn't and wouldn't take "no" for an answer. She knew better than to tell you the truth when answering your jealous and needy questions. You couldn't handle the obvious truth. Does a girl have a right to choose who she wants to date without having to take $hit for it from a creepy dude who just won't let her do what makes her happy?

How long are planning on dwelling on this on, playing victim, and feeling sorry for yourself about why are girls this way towards you?

You need to take responsibility for your own happiness and move on and learn from this. Coming in here to get pitty from a few guys who don't know or quite remember the whole story is only going to delay your recovery.
I never stalked her. I don't know where this came from.

I could have taken the truth, when I thought I saw what I saw (i'm really short sighted remember and didn't have my contacts or glasses on so I didn't trust my sight at all) When I thought I saw them kissing lightly I was thinking 'ok that's it i'm done' but I needed confirmation from her. She gave me a big smile and denied it. It was so believable I feel stupid now. If I did see it I would have just got my book back from her and wish the guy good luck and say goodbye.

Now I feel they're laughing at me for being so stupid to believe her lies. He should feel disrespected too that his girl is telling me that she's not seeing him unless they're both in on it together.

The point where this happened she liked me again she wanted me to meet with her on NY eve and judging what happened he took my spot that night because I wasn't there. I'm to blame for that. But despite everything her lying has showed me that she wasn't worth it. I have problems fine I accept that, but she's a low value girl and the warning signs were there from the beginning but I was so smitten with her I looked past these things. At some point she'll f him about too so it's better him than me.

I can't help feeling a sense of loss and stupidity for giving her this nice letter yesterday although i did write some bad things too and for her to be thinking i'm so stupid and i believe she's this great girl that i'm glad i saw what I saw otherwise I'd be leaving with a sense of i lost a great girl rather than some evil b1tch.

I'm trying to get over this as quickly as a i can but i feel so ashamed I believed her bullsh1t. I feel like revenge of somesort but I know that's counter productive given I am no way capable of sleeping with her best friend or friends or sister with the level i'm at so it's better i just sit back and learn from this awful experience.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Pikachu,

MOVE THE FVCK ON BRO


MOVE THE FVCK ON BRO


MOVE THE FVCK ON BRO

What part of this don't you understand?

Quit talking to her, it's that simple. No letters, No txts. No thinking about why she did this or that.

THIS GIRL IS DONE DONE DONE
 
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