I just want to apologise to everyone, you were right.

[pikachu69]

ok you guys are all aware of my stupid problem and oneitis about this same girl. I just wanted to apologize and say you guys were right.

Tonight I saw something which made me feel nothing for her anymore I hope you guys can help me make sense of what happened and why.

Tonight I did the biggest AFC thing and gave her a farewell letter saying all these nice things about her and that i hope to meet her again soon.

She's sucha b1tch, i mentioned on here 2 weeks ago that I presumed my rival and her were getting together and I swear I saw them kissing each other in the cafe we study in cos i was right in front of them but I'm so short sighted I couldn't tell and the fact she was so upfront doing in my face i thought i was imagining it, i waited to see if it happened again and it did 3 times but i didn't trust my sight.

I took her to 1 side looking quite angry and said to her 'are you seeing that guy?' she goes 'no! we're just really good friends.' she knows i cant see properly so i didn't trust my eyes, i go 'i thought i saw u two kissing' she said 'no! he has a spanish gf'

What would cause her to lie straight to my face like that? I feel so stupid now believing her.

Tonight I was out going to meet my buddy at the local bar then i get there walk up the stairs and right in front of me, those 2 are kissing each other.. I was so disgusted by her and myself.

I left and called my other buddy venting, I saw them come out of the bar crossing the street to get a cab hand in hand. Should I have confronted them? what would I have said? I wanted to make her feel stupid and found out but i didn't I just hid behind a car.

I texted her after 'i take back everything I said in my letter. I knew i saw you 2 kissing that day in the cafe but u lied straight to my face. now i know what kind of girl u are im relieved im not leaving behind someone i care for. i thought u were better than that, i guess i was wrong.'

In those circumstances is it better to confront them face to face with him my rival smug holding her hand or is it better just to say something via text to catch them out?

I could clearly tell they were going back to his place to bang so i should have sent this earlier or maybe confronted them there and there, but i guess u guys would say that it makes no difference she wouldn't care or feel guilty right?

I just wanted to ruin their night and make her feel bad. But by time i sent the text it was too late it was already an hour after i saw them leaving.

 

[katatonia]

Meh, you already fvcked up by giving her a reaction but I guess you can still make her feel bad for what she did (and she knows what she did, don't worry about that). The only way you can accomplish this is to punish her by never speaking to her again (or for a few months) and give her absolutely no reaction if she tries to contact you.

 

[r0cky]

You said you realized we were right so why are you still thinking about her?Just let her be, she was probably the main star at his bukkakke party that night who the **** cares? And you say you go to bars? I never found out your real age but by reading your posts I thought you were 16 tops.

You really REALLY should start focusing on becoming more mature. Please dude, do it for yourself.
Your posts are not about girl issues anymore, they are about internal issues you have with yourself. Read your own posts try to see why I'm telling you this. Its plain and obvious that you need to mature, and until then stop posting about your girls issues because its clear by this post that our efforts to help you have accomplished nothing.

 

[pikachu69]

Meh, you already fvcked up by giving her a reaction but I guess you can still make her feel bad for what she did (and she knows what she did, don't worry about that). The only way you can accomplish this is to punish her by never speaking to her again (or for a few months) and give her absolutely no reaction if she tries to contact you.

Well she didn't see me see them together you see. So she doesn't know I saw them making out. So she doesn't know what she did wrong. Why would she lie straight to my face like that? Was it really chick logic of not hurting my feelings?

I'm leaving in 3 days, mainly to get away from her. My issue wouldn't have been so much that she was making out with a different guy but cos it was that particular guy, my rival I knew even when I started seeing her he'd be a threat cos he was the one that taught her salsa so had instant kino.

I can only blame myself, I had my shot I blew it. I just feel stupid for believing her lies that time. I just wanted to ruin their night somehow like c0ckblock him from getting any, even if i confronted them as they got into the cab that wouldn't change a thing right? It's not as if she'll really care about it that much not to sleep with him. IT looked like this was the first time these 2 were going to fvck judging by his reaction walking with her to the cab. Could I really have done anything to ruin their night?

Also if I walk past by her in the next 2 days should i have a smile on my face and completely blank her? If i look angry that'll give her more of a reaction.

 

[jonwon]

ok you guys are all aware of my stupid problem and oneitis about this same girl. I just wanted to apologize and say you guys were right.

Tonight I saw something which made me feel nothing for her anymore I hope you guys can help me make sense of what happened and why.

Tonight I did the biggest AFC thing and gave her a farewell letter saying all these nice things about her and that i hope to meet her again soon.

She's sucha b1tch, i mentioned on here 2 weeks ago that I presumed my rival and her were getting together and I swear I saw them kissing each other in the cafe we study in cos i was right in front of them but I'm so short sighted I couldn't tell and the fact she was so upfront doing in my face i thought i was imagining it, i waited to see if it happened again and it did 3 times but i didn't trust my sight.

I took her to 1 side looking quite angry and said to her 'are you seeing that guy?' she goes 'no! we're just really good friends.' she knows i cant see properly so i didn't trust my eyes, i go 'i thought i saw u two kissing' she said 'no! he has a spanish gf'

What would cause her to lie straight to my face like that? I feel so stupid now believing her.

Tonight I was out going to meet my buddy at the local bar then i get there walk up the stairs and right in front of me, those 2 are kissing each other.. I was so disgusted by her and myself.

I left and called my other buddy venting, I saw them come out of the bar crossing the street to get a cab hand in hand. Should I have confronted them? what would I have said? I wanted to make her feel stupid and found out but i didn't I just hid behind a car.

I texted her after 'i take back everything I said in my letter. I knew i saw you 2 kissing that day in the cafe but u lied straight to my face. now i know what kind of girl u are im relieved im not leaving behind someone i care for. i thought u were better than that, i guess i was wrong.'

In those circumstances is it better to confront them face to face with him my rival smug holding her hand or is it better just to say something via text to catch them out?

I could clearly tell they were going back to his place to bang so i should have sent this earlier or maybe confronted them there and there, but i guess u guys would say that it makes no difference she wouldn't care or feel guilty right?

I just wanted to ruin their night and make her feel bad. But by time i sent the text it was too late it was already an hour after i saw them leaving.

Move on kid, dont reward her any more power by being a needy wuss bag who is feeling hurt.


Trust me on this, the best thing you can do right now is to bag another chick, let her see you with the other chick, stick your tongue down the throat of other chick.

If you cant do that, at the very least you need to cut this women out like a cancer, the more you go back positive or negative conflict is just rewarding her more of an ego validation boost.

Dont be a chump.

Forget about her and move on. Acting the way your doing is painting yourself with a large sign across your fore-head that screams 'looser' in her eyes.

Ask yourself this question would a man with options an Alpha stud be doing what your doing? Nope he would be banging her sister or her mum.

And in the real world of women, that is the only way your going to get back at her. The rest is awarding her attention, women love attention, dont give them what they want.

P.S never write a women who treats you badly a love letter again, you simpering wuss! Sorry but that is how women will see you.

Also you have alot to learn about women. Women lie, so do men, but get this in your head; A women can lie to you, her BF whilst riding some other mans hard co** and you just happened to ring her. I have yet to meet a gods honest to truth women who hasn't lied about some shi*.

Women lie about how many partners they have.
Women lie about the male friend orbitors who want to fuc& em (see your girl for a perfect example).
Women lie with make-up.
Women overstate their social status more often then not.

Women lie just has freely has men do, if not more.

 

[katatonia]

Well she didn't see me see them together you see. So she doesn't know I saw them making out. So she doesn't know what she did wrong. Why would she lie straight to my face like that? Was it really chick logic of not hurting my feelings?

LoL sorry but I doubt it was to 'not hurt your feelings'. Most likely it was to cover her ass and so she could keep leading you on.

Could I really have done anything to ruin their night?

Blown the guy's head off? It sounds like you are putting way too much thought into this and jumping to conclusions.

Also if I walk past by her in the next 2 days should i have a smile on my face and completely blank her?.

Either I guess. Don't look angry...

Also take jonwon's advice and get a new preferably hotter girl in your arms... or her sister or best friend or someone she hates. This coupled with the no contact / no reaction will hurt her more than anything else you can think of.

 

[alwayslead8821]

It's not worth your time bud, and it really won't make you feel much better in the long run

 

[pikachu69]

LoL sorry but I doubt it was to 'not hurt your feelings'. Most likely it was to cover her ass and so she could keep leading you on.



Blown the guy's head off? It sounds like you are putting way too much thought into this and jumping to conclusions.



Either I guess. Don't look angry...

Also take jonwon's advice and get a new preferably hotter girl in your arms... or her sister or best friend or someone she hates. This coupled with the no contact / no reaction will hurt her more than anything else you can think of.

At least I leave in 3 days with no regrets or worries about what might have been. So you're saying she didn't do that to hurt my feelings but to lead me on cos girls love to do that cos they love the attention?

She made me look like such an idiot. IF it was a different guy i wouldn't be p1ssed cos I knew I had my shot but because it was this slimey fvcker who was tryna wreck my situation with her from the beginning.

Even thinking back he was that cvnt who taught her salsa that evening in the university bar where she didn't invite me cos her female friend didn't want me there cos she didn't speak english and also a few weeks ago i saw him just sitting around waiting for her in the cafe, i felt had i stayed that day and c0ckblocked him from talking to her he wouldn't have had his 1st date with her that night.

I have to give him credit though. i underestimated him. he has more game than i expected and 2 weeks ago when he sat down with me and her her was trying to run game on me trying to make himself look better than me making me look like a bum and him some suave dude. I had my shot I blew it, but she'll probably just fvck him over at some point too so he'll get his. Although from speaking to both of them, they're much more suited to each other in terms of interests than I ever was and he wasn't pushy like me though I do think he's a pvssy for pretending to be friends with her when really he wanted her.

He was the 'friend' who said that he would never have 'latino girlfriend' that she bet money with, in knew from that point he was interested in her.

Anyway, would I expect her response from her for my text? It wasn't exactly rude or angry, more just disappointment i didn't call her a b1tch or evil. IF she doesn't even apologise or say sorry that shows you she's a heartless b1tch who didn't give a sh1t about me.

 

[pikachu69]

Why do I feel I cannot trust women anymore?

This situation has made me feel so angry that I just want to fvck over any girl I meet in future because eventually she might do it to me too. I'm starting to become more heartless.

 

[katatonia]

At least I leave in 3 days with no regrets or worries about what might have been. So you're saying she didn't do that to hurt my feelings but to lead me on cos girls love to do that cos they love the attention?

Yes, that is most likely what happened.

Anyway, would I expect her response from her for my text? It wasn't exactly rude or angry, more just disappointment i didn't call her a b1tch or evil. IF she doesn't even apologise or say sorry that shows you she's a heartless b1tch who didn't give a sh1t about me.

My guess is that she will respond in a week or so and send an apology of some sort when she realises she is losing you, perhaps earlier. Don't you dare fvcking respond.

 

[pikachu69]

Yes, that is most likely what happened.



My guess is that she will respond in a week or so and send an apology of some sort when she realises she is losing you, perhaps earlier. Don't you dare fvcking respond.

Why would she respond though? I mean she was already sick of me and told me to leave her alone, I just became annoying that if anything she's probably glad I saw what I saw tonight. All I can do is spread bad rumors about her.

She doesn't care about losing me, she was sick of me as it is.

The thing is despite everything, is she really a bad girl?

I'm so conflicted cos I felt I was in love with her and to this guy, she'd be a good girl cos she's interested in him the same way she was with me, but I can't understand how he's managed to kiss close her so quickly whereas with me she was always very wary about going to the next stage. I feel as if I did him a favour because when I was out with her she was not ready to get involved with someone seriously, when i messed up she still longed for those feelings of having a bf but didn't want me anymore so he was in position to do what he needed.

Anyway, he's laughing now he's getting laid having the time of his life cos I never got to sleep with her but I could tell that she would be amazing in bed. I can't believe when I said goodbye to her today being on good terms I knew all that make up and stuff wasn't just for anyone. He was patient I wasn't. I had my shot, i blew it. Maybe this was a blessing in disguise cos she was never worth it.

 

[jonwon]

At least I leave in 3 days with no regrets or worries about what might have been. So you're saying she didn't do that to hurt my feelings but to lead me on cos girls love to do that cos they love the attention?

She made me look like such an idiot. IF it was a different guy i wouldn't be p1ssed cos I knew I had my shot but because it was this slimey fvcker who was tryna wreck my situation with her from the beginning.

Even thinking back he was that cvnt who taught her salsa that evening in the university bar where she didn't invite me cos her female friend didn't want me there cos she didn't speak english and also a few weeks ago i saw him just sitting around waiting for her in the cafe, i felt had i stayed that day and c0ckblocked him from talking to her he wouldn't have had his 1st date with her that night.

I have to give him credit though. i underestimated him. he has more game than i expected and 2 weeks ago when he sat down with me and her her was trying to run game on me trying to make himself look better than me making me look like a bum and him some suave dude. I had my shot I blew it, but she'll probably just fvck him over at some point too so he'll get his. Although from speaking to both of them, they're much more suited to each other in terms of interests than I ever was and he wasn't pushy like me though I do think he's a pvssy for pretending to be friends with her when really he wanted her.

He was the 'friend' who said that he would never have 'latino girlfriend' that she bet money with, in knew from that point he was interested in her.

Anyway, would I expect her response from her for my text? It wasn't exactly rude or angry, more just disappointment i didn't call her a b1tch or evil. IF she doesn't even apologise or say sorry that shows you she's a heartless b1tch who didn't give a sh1t about me.

I just want to point out how your women set this up, for other readers, to see what women are capable of:

"where she didn't invite me cos her female friend didn't want me there cos she didn't speak english"

This was a classic set up, telling you plain has day. She had eyes on the guy from the start. Dont blame the guy, your GF and her friend recruit knew exactly what she was doing.

"just sitting around waiting for her in the cafe, i felt had i stayed that day and c0ckblocked him"

This is the dark side of the 'game' seriously why are you thinking of coc*blocking some guy your GF is with, who she planned to meet after setting herself up with her and him, with you sat at home pulling your pis*er! There is no game needed! what was needed was to drop her. That was the best 'game' tip you should have obsorbed, instead of trying to coc*block the random stud, your GF invites into her life.

"He was the 'friend' who said that he would never have 'latino girlfriend' that she bet money with" Clicky, friends, spending time together and you bought the 'we are just friends line', like a royal chump, no offence.

"he has more game than i expected" - His game worked because your girl wanted it to work. I could leave my GF in a room with brad pitt, mystery and any other PUA and I know 100% nothing will go off, regardless of how much 'game' is at play. Your girl wanted this guy. She had you both jumping through her hoops like two monkey boys, you being her BF should have seen what type of women you where dating and let the so called better game guy have the chaff. She was no good, this should show you that much.


"Anyway, would I expect her response from her for my text? It wasn't exactly rude or angry, more just disappointment i didn't call her a b1tch or evil".

Forget about her FFS. You want her to be effected, you want the best game advice? No contact, none. best advice, pull another girl. If you really want this chick back (I have no idea why), best thing you can do is put it about with any other chick and show her you have options.

 

[pikachu69]

the b1tch just sent me a text not even apologising. My letter wasn't all good, I said some bad things but mainly good things. but she texted me

'oh well, it's good that you're relieved. According to your letter I was a real monster, so u dont have to take it all back. Anyway, you're about to start a new life and adventure, so i hope you'll just find a right person.'


my original text:

'i take back everything I said in my letter. I knew i saw you 2 kissing that day in the cafe but u lied straight to my face. now i know what kind of girl u are im relieved im not leaving behind someone i care for. i thought u were better than that, i guess i was wrong.'

I'm not going to respond, dont worry.

But why hasn't she even apologisied??

She is just using my letter as justification for her actions it seems.

I'm so tempted to write back 'you're right, you are a monster after tonights actions' or 'yeah you are a real monster, i hope he finds out what kind of girl you are sooner than i did, you could at least had the decency to tell me the truth that day instead of stringing me along pretendind to spare my feelings just cos u love the attention. it shows you lack any integrity whatsoever.'

the bit about new life and adventure I said in my letter. She's just using the negative parts of my letter to justify her lack of apology or wrongdoing.

She expects me to reply, I won't.

 

[pikachu69]

I'm angry I didn't even get an apology from her. She was already p1ssed anyway cos of the letter prior to seeing him so getting back at me would be her seeing him and fvcking him. Maybe if i added in the text 'you could at least had the decency to tell me the truth'

cos my text didn't put any focus on her lying being the issue. why didn't she even apologise?

It's like as if she's justifying her actions cos of my letter. B1tch.

If i send back now 'you could least had the decency to tell me the truth and apologised' but is that just giving her more attention?

I'm so tempted to send something back.. grrrrr.

 

[Iceberg]

I'm angry I didn't even get an apology from her. She was already p1ssed anyway cos of the letter prior to seeing him so getting back at me would be her seeing him and fvcking him. Maybe if i added in the text 'you could at least had the decency to tell me the truth'

cos my text didn't put any focus on her lying being the issue. why didn't she even apologise?

Apologize for what? Banging some other dude? It's none of your business if she's banging someone. If a chick came up to me and asked if I was banging some girl, I'd probably lie too. She doesn't need to explain her love life to you.

You're being way too feminine about this. Get over it. You'll find some new girl to obsess over in a month or two.

 

[pikachu69]

Yes, that is most likely what happened.



My guess is that she will respond in a week or so and send an apology of some sort when she realises she is losing you, perhaps earlier. Don't you dare fvcking respond.

'oh well, it's good that you're relieved. According to your letter I was a real monster, so u dont have to take it all back. Anyway, you're about to start a new life and adventure, so i hope you'll just find a right person.'

this was no apology.. this just sounds like a justification for her actions.

I'm so agrieved I haven't even got an apology cos in her mind lying is ok. I wish I wrote she could at least had the decency to tell me the truth but it's too late now.

Is it pointless reply to her with anything is that just going to give her validation for her actions?

Is an apology really that important?

She clearly doesn't feel she did anything wrong because of the bad things written in my letter.

 

[Fedor]

Lol what, she's being nice to you with that last message. She didn't exactly go "yer well you're a nob and I'd never touch you with a bargepole" did she?

It also means she is 0% into you, maybe even running into the negative numbers where she'd sooner go lesbian.

That doesn't matter though, just don't be all needy over the next girl you meet and you'll be good to go!

 

[Ease]

Please dont reply to her ever again.

There is so much wrong with your situation that i wouldnt know where to start. Read the replies to your thread again, carefully.

Get drunk, go out, and never think of her again. In time you will realize you were a massive weener about this situation.

 

[pikachu69]

Are all girls like this??

I'm having a real crisis right now, I thought this girl was a good girl deep down but the lying straight to my face and making me look stupid i find so offensive, i could have taken her telling me the truth and walked away a bit angry but at least i'd know i was wasting my time but being led on after she still was covering her a$$. b1tch. I hope that cvnt gets screwed over like i did later on.

DO all girls behave like this once they've lost interest in you? Am i taking her lying straight to my face when I thought (And did) see them kissing that day too seriously?

I couldn't believe she'd be so audacious to do that right in front of me. She knew I couldn't see well yet she still took liberties and flaunted it in front of me. b1tch.

It just seems so dishonest.

The consequence is that im going to have serious trust issues with women in future and if im trying to improve my game and inner game more importantly how is an incident like this suppose to make me better as a recovering AFC?

What should I learn/take from this seemingly awful experience?

 

[Iceberg]

Are all girls like this??

I'm having a real crisis right now, I thought this girl was a good girl deep down but the lying straight to my face and making me look stupid i find so offensive, i could have taken her telling me the truth and walked away a bit angry but at least i'd know i was wasting my time but being led on after she still was covering her a$$. b1tch. I hope that cvnt gets screwed over like i did later on.

Were you two even banging? Maybe I don't know the back story here, but it just seems like this is a girl you were interested in.

DO all girls behave like this once they've lost interest in you? Am i taking her lying straight to my face when I thought (And did) see them kissing that day too seriously?

Yes. You are taking it too seriously, because this girl doesn't owe you a thing, and you don't owe her a thing. It's not her responsibility to update you on her sex life.

If she was your girlfriend, and she's cheating on you, then yeah...she's a skank and you should be furious. If she was your girlfriend, then I'm sorry for my callous response. But if she's just some girl you liked, then yeah...you have bigger things to worry about.

What should I learn/take from this seemingly awful experience?

You should learn to be a man, and stop placing women on pedestals.