I just graduated from high school.

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And to be honest, there have been good times and bad. Hopefully, some of what I'm about to say will sink in, and we might get less AFC's on this board ;)

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Relationships in school.

My advice is don't do it. I know we have some young members on the board, who don't have the same kind of access to girls from other schools in their area, but trust me, the effort made to meet and date girls who DON'T go to your school will leave you with a much better experience.

Let's wind the tape back 2 years. I spent 3 years chasing this one girl (she's now head girl (or was(whatever))), and in the end, I choked. Like a good ol' AFC. The experience left me shaken, but not stirred. After a month or so, I had moved on pretty well, and asked another girl out. She said yes (omg *jizz in pants*), but peer pressure lead to her not actually going out with me (world record: relationship dead in approx. 2 hours :().

This lead to a long relationless period of my life. Lot's of rumors were floating around that I was gay, and I had a bit of a hard time. Since then, I've had a policy of no in school relationships. You might say that the experience with these 2 girls scarred me for life, but now, i'm happy I had the policy in place. Sure, it wasn't great for the year or so where I was an AFC, who could NEVER cold approach at ALL, of even be awesome around girls I got introduced to, but I'm so glad I've stuck with it. It has forced me to go out and meet girls.

Fast forward to December last year. I found Fast Seduction. This literally changed my life. I started to work seriously on my "womaniser skills", and I'm still working on them. There have been times where I've been interested in a girl at school, but I've shrugged it off, friend zoned them, and gone to the shops to pick up that afternoon. By forcing myself out of the "easy" zone of the school environment, I HAD to get good at approaching. I really started in the last 3 months, after working really hard on my self image, confidence, and mindset.

In all, relationships in school CAN work. Don't get me wrong, some of the happiest people I know (apart from myself :)) are in in-school relationships. Of course, if it turns to sh!t, then it REALLY gets bad.

The problem with in-school relationships is that people talk. We all gossip to some extent, and I know perfectly good relationships have been ruined by nosey retards. My advice would be to stay well away.

To recap:

- Don't look in your school for a relationship. School is for friends.

- By forcing this "arena" out of your mind, you will learn to look elsewhere for "company", so to speak.

- This has the added bonus of preparing you for when you leave school. I am REALLY relishing the thought of going to Orientation Day at Uni next year, and getting like, 40 numbers. Week 8 become fact instead of fiction.

High school relationships in general

I've touched on this several times since I joined up (incidently, don't read too much into my post count and join date, i've been reading and working on my "game" for about a year now); High school relationships are completely different to those presented in the Bible.

Guys in this forum, realise this: The Bible was created for 20-mid 20 guys. A lot of the stuff, I've found, doesn't apply to 17 year olds and below. I know because some of the stuff hasn't gone down too well with past dates. For example, a lot of the tips found in the Bootcamp make reference to "your car", and "your house" etc. Obviously, you can't always take a girl back to your house: siblings and parents are c0ckblocks :). Another thing I've noticed, which isn't part of the bible per se, is that high school girls aren't looking for the style of relationship presented in the bible. The girl i'm seeing at the moment is constantly messaging me, wanting me to be around. In the bible, it talks about talking once a week, to set up a date (in an adult situation). Honestly, this doesn't happen in RL for high schoolers. So, if you're current girl (newish) isn't conforming to some of the things you've read, fear not :) I've learnt to go with my gut instinct moreso than what the bible says. Obviously, I know the bible inside out now, and it's always at the back of my head, but I can work more on MY style than having to concentrate on "Bugger, what did the bible say about this!?"

I had more to say, but i think this will do for the moment. The points I was trying to make (however successful) were:

- Relationships in school aren't great.
- Don't expect a "bible-style" relationship if you're in HS. Girls just don't behave like what you've read. Afterall, they're growing up and learning too :)

Syn.

UPDATE.

Making connections outside of school

Ok, so having read all that, you may be wondering "So, I'm 14, how do I go about meeting girls outside of school?". Which is fair enough too. I know, I was 14, and I had practically NO female friends, let alone outside of school. However, I did have male friends outside of school, and looking back, I could have taken advantage of that.

Being a "middleschooler" (in Aus, that would be year 7-9, USA...no idea. But between 12 and 15) means that you can't exactly "cold approach" at the shops. Honestly, despite all the bible says, likely targets for these guys aren't old enough to work in shops, and don't exactly hang out around there anyway. And if they are at the shops, it's usually with parents. Bad.

However, this is where other male friends come in. Join a sporting team, a club, ANYTHING, but the goal should be to make friends with people from nearby schools. Then, ask them if THEY have any female friends that you can meet up with, as a group, or whatever. Use your own judgement. This alleviates the necessity to cold approach, and gives you plenty of targets too. Plus, once you get old enough (16-17) to go and pick up in public places (because the targets are "pick-upable"), you'll be much better at it.

I'll keep editing this as I think of more things, or, like Porky, you raise questions. I'm not treating this thread like a "Post and I'll offer advice", but if you have anything to say, i'll try and elaborate on it for you. Keeping it all in one post will bring it all together nicely too, instead of people needing to root through pages of messages :)

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just when do you expect these guys to have relationships then?

let me tell you - college is so much more about hooking up than HS ever was or could be. it's possible to have a relationship at university but not like in high school.

your point about high school relationships not being based on the bible is good, but mostly applies only if the girl goes to your school.
 

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Oh, don't get me wrong, this was by no means a definitive post, I've only covered a few things (mostly to do with girls at your school).

just when do you expect these guys to have relationships then?
This i concede to. I wrote that based on the assumption that most guys get serious about dating when they hit 15-16. Sure, earlier than that is cool, but a lot of the theory falls apart at that point. Neither the girl or guy have ANY experience, thus, do not react in any sort of predictable way. However, as you get to, say, the last 2 years of high school, most people have had a few relationships, sometimes longer than others, but the point is, both parties are more mature, and the theories hold up better.

And at that point, most people have friends outside of school. They ask these friends "Got any female friends?". Then they meet said friends. Then, they ask those friends out, or, ask them "Any hot friends I should know about?", and meet those friends.

Basically, it comes down to being confident enough to form out of school friendships. If they can't do that, then they need the bible :)

I may update the first post later with a few more points, mostly dealing with the last thing I said there.

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Well, I don't necessarily think you shouldn't go for girls in your school, but I completely agree that it is very beneficial to go for girls from other schools. The reason is because they are much easier to get, particularly if you have some DJ skills, but you aren't the most popular guy at your school. This can be the case a lot of times because so much of getting girls in high school is based on what your reputation is. Sure, you can definitely improve your reputation (I have improved mine a great deal), but it can often be difficult to do so if you previously had a bad one. Anyways, when you are hanging out with a girl from a different school she has no idea how popular you are or what kind of reputation you have at your school. All she has to go by is what you are like when you're with her. Therefore, she's not worried about what other people may say or think if she hooks up with you or goes out with you.

Plus, a lot of girls like guys from other schools. They think they're different, a nice break from all the guys at their school, and exotic almost.
 
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