I ****ing hate women

[HiLite]

New member here. No idea if this is the right section or if it's even relevant to this forum at all. I guess I just need to vent and any other forum I post this on would probably ban me because apparently free speech no longer exists on the internet.

Anyway, I really ****ing hate women. I'm a virgin in my mid-20s and I've suffered with severe social anxiety for almost a decade. I never really bothered to approach females because I've always felt that I wasn't good enough for them, and I have an extreme fear of rejection. Since I started high school, my life has been unbearably lonely and depressing because of this. At this point, I'm just really angry about it - sometimes to the point of feeling suicidal. I feel so cheated out of life.

I'm not looking for a relationship with these parasites. I mean, if it happens, then great. But I really just wanna **** around. I don't think it's possible for me to be happy in a relationship with the toxic sluts I'm surrounded by every day. They're only good for one thing. Now, I've never been directly rejected by females (I wouldn't put myself in that kind of situation). They've always either ignored me or given off subtle signs of contempt (i.e. through facial expressions, body language, tone of voice). I assume it's because of my low social status. Despite my anxiety, I think I have decent social skills and my appearance is okay.

I just wish I could eliminate this overwhelming need for validation from women. I wish I could completely kill my sex drive. It's torture feeling like this every day. I hate the fact that these *****s can control my emotions like this without even interacting with me. At this point, I'm seriously considering paying for it... I just don't know how to go about it safely.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

There's nothing wrong with paying for it from time to time. I've done it twice. Who cares? I'm not a virgin, been with multiple women but if you asked most guys would say my "notch count" is low. Listen - you pay for it anyway taking these hoes out for dates and drinks, the only difference is the bang isn't guaranteed like it is with an escort.

But my rule is to get a QUALITY escort. One I was with was a 10 in the highly regulated Red Light district of Amsterdam. Another was with a 9 at an Asian massage parlor that I did extensive research on the place. Clean, high end establishment and good reviews. Got the full girlfriend experience for $120ish. In other words, don't meet some heffer or meth-head on craigslist or backpage at a cheap motel.

Do you have money? Spend a weekend and go to Vegas or find a high end strip club in your city and be prepared to drop minimum $500...

 

[btownbuck2012]

First of all man, your anger is justified.

As a guy who was also very shy and had a-lot of anxiety growing up, I completely understand and sympathize with how you are feeling.

I'm about to go Robin Williams from Good Will Hunting on you here.

It's not your fault.

It just isn't.

As important as it is to improve yourself, (whether that be getting in shape, getting an education so you can get a better job and definitely practicing socializing with both men and women) what you're dealing with today in this country from women would make even the most sane men snap at times.

Women are out of control. Period.

They constantly are getting hit on from all different types of men. It isn't hard for a woman to walk into a bar or out onto the street and have some guy give her a cat call or hit on her. That's not even to mention the type of attention they get on social media. Not just hot women either, but the 5's 6's, etc. In fact, their attitudes are often worse than the really good looking women. On top of that, you have women like Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama shoving down our throats on a daily basis just how awful women have been treated over the years and just how unfair it is for women currently in the workplace. AND on top of that you have a bunch of brainwashed feminist men who have quite a bit of authority and power in our country (business owners, judges, etc.) who are doing everything in their power to make sure women aren't held accountable either. The deck is stacked quite high against men.

Women are at a point in our society where they are literally having their cake and eating it too.

But you have to remember you are a man. You control your destiny. That is the most powerful thing that will bring you peace. Work on your anxiety and social skills. Just being able to interact with people comfortably and naturally will bring you peace and happiness. Human interaction is a good thing. It's good for the soul.

In terms of finding a long term relationship with a woman who will bring you some type of internal strength and comfort, don't count on it. It could happen, yes, but use these years to build a rock solid internal strength within yourself. Learn how to derive your fullest contentment and positive energy from within yourself. This will come from building up your body and getting lean, it will come from getting an education, it will come from taking risks professionally and really trying to achieve the business goals that you have set out for yourself. Picking up women and f*cking them is a small piece of this puzzle, but it definitely shouldn't be completely ignored. You just have to remember that you can't plan your entire life out with the end goal being a woman. It's sad, but that just isn't a smart bet anymore.

So set out on your own path and journey in life and do things not because you think it's the right time and right place to do them because that's what society and others would expect of you at this point in your life. Do them because they excite you and you're truly interested in them. Men are timeless. We live on forever. Regardless of what the feminist bullsh*tters will tell you otherwise. Enjoy being a man. Learn how to take a punch and don't ever take women too seriously.

 

[btownbuck2012]

There's nothing wrong with paying for it from time to time. I've done it twice. Who cares? I'm not a virgin, been with multiple women but if you asked most guys would say my "notch count" is low. Listen - you pay for it anyway taking these hoes out for dates and drinks, the only difference is the bang isn't guaranteed like it is with an escort.

But my rule is to get a QUALITY escort. One I was with was a 10 in the highly regulated Red Light district of Amsterdam. Another was with a 9 at an Asian massage parlor that I did extensive research on the place. Clean, high end establishment and good reviews. Got the full girlfriend experience for $120ish. In other words, don't meet some heffer or meth-head on craigslist or backpage at a cheap motel.

Do you have money? Spend a weekend and go to Vegas or find a high end strip club in your city and be prepared to drop minimum $500...

^This, too. There's nothing wrong with paying for a quality piece of ass every now and then, but definitely make sure you do your research first and prepare to spend a could hundred. And then when you're with her, pound her hard in every position you can as if it's the last piece you'll ever get.

 

[snowfall]

Get a doll and a therapist

 

[BeExcellent]

I've suffered with severe social anxiety for almost a decade.

Here is the core issue. This is something intrinsic to you that has to change before you are going to be able to move forward with females. Assigning blame to women vis-a-vis calling them all parasites etc. isn't helping. The attitudes and beliefs you hold have a way sub-consciously of expressing themselves outwardly in sublte ways that you may not be aware of and other people can find it off-putting on a sub-conscious level. You sound like you know this but aren't sure how to tackle it. Hiring a professional to have sex with you isn't going to repair this issue.

As to the virgin thing don't beat yourself up. Some people truly value their virginity. They come from a place of high self value. Others feel horrible (as though something is wrong with them) for being a virgin. Either view is determined by one's sense of self worth. Your self worth is low and so you see the virginity thing as a bad thing. Totally understandable.

In order to change your circumstances you are going to have to act. You are going to have to act in order to get therapy, to overcome social anxiety, to overcome fear of rejection. You are a human being and so is everyone else. You have as much right to be and exist as everyone else. So perhaps the place to start is to think about what actions are you willing to take to better the core issue?

From there you can start down a road to progress.

 

[corrector]

New member here. No idea if this is the right section or if it's even relevant to this forum at all. I guess I just need to vent and any other forum I post this on would probably ban me because apparently free speech no longer exists on the internet.

That's cool.

Anyway, I really ****ing hate women. I'm a virgin in my mid-20s and I've suffered with severe social anxiety for almost a decade. I never really bothered to approach females because I've always felt that I wasn't good enough for them, and I have an extreme fear of rejection. Since I started high school, my life has been unbearably lonely and depressing because of this. At this point, I'm just really angry about it - sometimes to the point of feeling suicidal. I feel so cheated out of life.

Do not kill yourself, see a prostitute instead and then you'll be afraid of losing your life because the demons that attack you afterwards will make whatever you are feeling like it's a big joke. It happened to me a couple of years ago. I paid like $ 60.00 after a divorce and I was never the same afterwards. My ex-wife could not fix the hunger of women after the divorce, but the escorts sure did, big time.

Now, fast forward two years later. I don't look at women the same way again. I don't grope manniquins, I don't feel like flirting with any women, I feel there are still residual memories about the encounter, and I'm still afraid of them. I went from being in a rage and suicidal like you are, from being afraid and experiencing terror and worrying for my life after dealing with the prostitute. It totally changed me. The price was so cheap that I dealt with two of them within a 24 hour period.

So, I'd caution, maybe you are listing to people advising you to see a prostitute. This is like playing with a firecracker. It will change you for better or worst and you may NEVER get her out of your system like a curse that haunts you for the rest of your life. I have more flashbacks about that escort encounter than my ex-wife, it's like totally crazy. I'm warning you, for sanity's sake, how you are feeling, that rage and all of that, don't lose it to a prostitute. Take it from me. Up to today I can't get that rage you have back, it's like a part of me, which was like you, is just gone. You lose that part of yourself when you start playing with fire.

I'm not looking for a relationship with these parasites. I mean, if it happens, then great. But I really just wanna **** around. I don't think it's possible for me to be happy in a relationship with the toxic sluts I'm surrounded by every day. They're only good for one thing. Now, I've never been directly rejected by females (I wouldn't put myself in that kind of situation). They've always either ignored me or given off subtle signs of contempt (i.e. through facial expressions, body language, tone of voice). I assume it's because of my low social status. Despite my anxiety, I think I have decent social skills and my appearance is okay.

This is why people can't really give advise. If you are ignored or are getting signs of contempt then how can you improve that?

]

I just wish I could eliminate this overwhelming need for validation from women. I wish I could completely kill my sex drive. It's torture feeling like this every day. I hate the fact that these *****s can control my emotions like this without even interacting with me. At this point, I'm seriously considering paying for it... I just don't know how to go about it safely.

If you pay for it then you'll lose your interest in women, lose our need for validation because you'll be dead to them. But isn't that a bad thing? Do you really want that memory? Remember, you can't lose a memory once you put that into your brain. You can't undo anything you experience from using a prostitute. Maybe you may not want such a memory inside of your brain. Think very carefully about it. Your soul, mind, body, spirit combines with hers and she's been with allot of people before you and you might feel disgusted about it after.

It may be better than suicide, because it will make you afraid of losing your life rather than wanting to take it yourself. I know this from experience.
I don't know which is worst, rage or fear. Don't under-estimate who you may be once the rage is gone and you only have fear left.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

As important as it is to improve yourself, (whether that be getting in shape, getting an education so you can get a better job and definitely practicing socializing with both men and women) what you're dealing with today in this country from women would make even the most sane men snap at times.

Women are out of control. Period.

They constantly are getting hit on from all different types of men. It isn't hard for a woman to walk into a bar or out onto the street and have some guy give her a cat call or hit on her. That's not even to mention the type of attention they get on social media. Not just hot women either, but the 5's 6's, etc. In fact, their attitudes are often worse than the really good looking women. On top of that, you have women like Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama shoving down our throats on a daily basis just how awful women have been treated over the years and just how unfair it is for women currently in the workplace. AND on top of that you have a bunch of brainwashed feminist men who have quite a bit of authority and power in our country (business owners, judges, etc.) who are doing everything in their power to make sure women aren't held accountable either. The deck is stacked quite high against men.

Women are at a point in our society where they are literally having their cake and eating it too.

Spot on. This is great analysis.

Of course, there are some posters on here who would confuse OP, because they'd tell you that this is a great thing and "men win" with feminism, because women are having rampant, indiscriminate sex. What they don't tell you is it's 90% of the women having sex with 10% of the guys.

These guys claim to be "spinning 5 plates at a time". Many of them are lying by the sheer mathematics of it. In 2016, it's a safe bet that less than 3% of men are dating 5 women at a time. Probably 10-20% of men are dating 2-3 at a time. But if you read this forum, every other man is a superstar player, when the reality is guys that are doing this well are not spending any time on a forum like this.

So the 80% of guys that have to work just to get 1 girl have two choices: be patient and keep working to get to the top 10%, or travel.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

That's cool.



Do not kill yourself, see a prostitute instead and then you'll be afraid of losing your life because the demons that attack you afterwards will make whatever you are feeling like it's a big joke. It happened to me a couple of years ago. I paid like $ 60.00 after a divorce and I was never the same afterwards. My ex-wife could not fix the hunger of women after the divorce, but the escorts sure did, big time.

Now, fast forward two years later. I don't look at women the same way again. I don't grope manniquins, I don't feel like flirting with any women, I feel there are still residual memories about the encounter, and I'm still afraid of them. I went from being in a rage and suicidal like you are, from being afraid and experiencing terror and worrying for my life after dealing with the prostitute. It totally changed me. The price was so cheap that I dealt with two of them within a 24 hour period.

So, I'd caution, maybe you are listing to people advising you to see a prostitute. This is like playing with a firecracker. It will change you for better or worst and you may NEVER get her out of your system like a curse that haunts you for the rest of your life. I have more flashbacks about that escort encounter than my ex-wife, it's like totally crazy. I'm warning you, for sanity's sake, how you are feeling, that rage and all of that, don't lose it to a prostitute. Take it from me. Up to today I can't get that rage you have back, it's like a part of me, which was like you, is just gone. You lose that part of yourself when you start playing with fire.



This is why people can't really give advise. If you are ignored or are getting signs of contempt then how can you improve that?

]

If you pay for it then you'll lose your interest in women, lose our need for validation because you'll be dead to them. But isn't that a bad thing? Do you really want that memory? Remember, you can't lose a memory once you put that into your brain. You can't undo anything you experience from using a prostitute. Maybe you may not want such a memory inside of your brain. Think very carefully about it. Your soul, mind, body, spirit combines with hers and she's been with allot of people before you and you might feel disgusted about it after.

It may be better than suicide, because it will make you afraid of losing your life rather than wanting to take it yourself. I know this from experience.
I don't know which is worst, rage or fear. Don't under-estimate who you may be once the rage is gone and you only have fear left.

What are you babbling about?

First of all, there is no such thing as demons. Secondly, I've been with two prostitutes. It's nothing like what you say. I even had difficulty performing for the first one. It was slightly embarrassing in the moment, but psychologically scarred? Give me a break. The second time was rather fun, with a hot Asian who gave me a great experience.

It's the world's oldest profession and the most honest transaction between man and woman ever known. Man trades resources for sex, women trades sex for resources. It's unfortunate OP has to lose his V-Card to one, because it does eliminate the desire element which can make the sex feel emptier, but it's sure as hell better than being a virgin when he turns 30.

If Elliot Rodger had seen a really nice escort who gave him the girlfriend experience, he and 6 others might be alive today.

 

[btownbuck2012]

If Elliot Rodger had seen a really nice escort who gave him the girlfriend experience, he and 6 others might be alive today.

Absolutely. Women have returned us to a society that extremely devalues the wonderful build up that leads to truly amazing sex with someone you really care about and have feelings for. It's not our fault guys. It didn't use to be this way, but the reality of the situation now is that great sex with a hooker is nothing to shake your head at.

You can't blame guys like Elliot Rodger for not realizing this. He thought a woman having sex with you meant she loved and cared about you, so how could he possibly handle doing something that special with some awful hooker....

OP,

Understand that a woman having sex with you doesn't mean she cares about you at all. Sad but true. So if you ever get to the point where you feel like making swiss cheese out of some folks, go bang a hooker. Seriously dude. This stuff isn't worth killing someone or yourself over.

 

[corrector]

What are you babbling about?

First of all, there is no such thing as demons.

Really?

 

[zekko]

You haven't even got started yet. Zero experience, but you hate women? Bizarre.

Equally bizarre is that I'm agreeing with deesade here. Personally, I think this is just a troll.

 

[devilkingx2]

New member here. No idea if this is the right section or if it's even relevant to this forum at all. I guess I just need to vent and any other forum I post this on would probably ban me because apparently free speech no longer exists on the internet.

Anyway, I really ****ing hate women. I'm a virgin in my mid-20s and I've suffered with severe social anxiety for almost a decade. I never really bothered to approach females because I've always felt that I wasn't good enough for them, and I have an extreme fear of rejection. Since I started high school, my life has been unbearably lonely and depressing because of this. At this point, I'm just really angry about it - sometimes to the point of feeling suicidal. I feel so cheated out of life.

I'm not looking for a relationship with these parasites. I mean, if it happens, then great. But I really just wanna **** around. I don't think it's possible for me to be happy in a relationship with the toxic sluts I'm surrounded by every day. They're only good for one thing. Now, I've never been directly rejected by females (I wouldn't put myself in that kind of situation). They've always either ignored me or given off subtle signs of contempt (i.e. through facial expressions, body language, tone of voice). I assume it's because of my low social status. Despite my anxiety, I think I have decent social skills and my appearance is okay.

I just wish I could eliminate this overwhelming need for validation from women. I wish I could completely kill my sex drive. It's torture feeling like this every day. I hate the fact that these *****s can control my emotions like this without even interacting with me. At this point, I'm seriously considering paying for it... I just don't know how to go about it safely.

i think many of us know how you feel man, women are pretty evil no doubt about that. you just have to learn how to extract what you want from them.

improve yourself, work on your game, bang slvts with reckless abandon and keep your heart guarded, then you'll look back and laugh, you'll have what you want and feel better, then you can look forward to other goals in life, like being a tournament champion at something.

 

[Young OG]

Take that crap to red pill reddit

 

[GetFit66]

Bro get your mind right, I remember being like you, life doesn't need sex and all that to be happy. Most of it is your mentality, if your lungs work, your brain works, you can sit back and laugh till you drop. These days I just own my own get so turned off by bs it's obvious and I don't get much, I don't let it effect me anymore because there are a million different things around you which can be ruining your mood. And my sex drive is insanely high, I know people who are about the same, but I don't know anyone who is higher. You can be happy, if you can't, you've got other issues.

 

[HiLite]

Thanks for the replies everyone. Just knowing that there are others out there who understand makes me feel a little better. I'll probably respond to individual posts later on but I appreciate the advice so far. As I said before, I just needed to vent. Can't find many places on the internet where I can do that without being censored these days.

This.

You haven't even got started yet. Zero experience, but you hate women? Bizarre.



First off Mrs, if there were dolls good enough, you'd become mostly redundant.

Secondly, therapists are wishy-washy crap. Someone for women to complain to.

He doesn't need "therapy" (lol). He needs to start making an effort. You wouldn't understand, because you've probably never done that. You're dependent on hand-outs.

Fvck off, if you are just going to snark.

yeah, I can see how it might seem bizarre to some. A lot of my hatred comes from keen observation, I guess. You don't have to put your hand in fire to know that it will burn you, know what I mean?
Thanks for your support, man. And it's true, therapists are ****ing useless, lol.

I never really participated in the game because:

a) it seemed like a lost cause, and...
b) from a cost-benefit perspective, the (potential) reward didn't seem worth the amount of effort I would have to put in

 

[HiLite]

Here is the core issue. This is something intrinsic to you that has to change before you are going to be able to move forward with females. Assigning blame to women vis-a-vis calling them all parasites etc. isn't helping. The attitudes and beliefs you hold have a way sub-consciously of expressing themselves outwardly in sublte ways that you may not be aware of and other people can find it off-putting on a sub-conscious level. You sound like you know this but aren't sure how to tackle it. Hiring a professional to have sex with you isn't going to repair this issue.

I don't think I am subconsciously expressing my attitudes/beliefs about women. To the outsider, I seem pretty normal. Most females seem to view me as the quiet, nice guy type. I think my low social status and lack of confidence is what puts them off. I've noticed, however, that I tend to get a better response from females when I'm pissed off, even though I don't express it overtly. It's weird. I guess the anger gives me a little boost of confidence.

 

[Desdinova]

I tend to get a better response from females when I'm pissed off, even though I don't express it overtly.

You're not the only one who gets that. When I'm having a rotten day, Women in public places will make eye contact and smile at me more. It's something I've never been able to explain.

There's nothing wrong with paying for it from time to time. I've done it twice. Who cares?

I'm going to recommend this to you. Life gave you a bit of a 5hitty deal. You probably have reasons for being a virgin in your mid-20s. Perhaps nobody helped you build self-confidence during your upbringing. Maybe you were bullied in school. Whatever the case, you're most likely just a victim of our feminized society.

Save yourself some cash, get some viagra, and pay for an escort. You'll need the viagra because all men are nervous and terrible during their first lay. There are other guys on this forum who used that method to give themselves a kickstart on their dating life, and now they're out there getting laid like rock stars.

Being branded a 'virgin' is a huge mental roadblock for men. Society has made men feel inadequate for not losing their virginity during their high school years. Paying for it will remove that roadblock, and then you can learn how to become socially successful with women.

 

[Von]

You're not the only one who gets that. When I'm having a rotten day, Women in public places will make eye contact and smile at me more. It's something I've never been able to explain.

That!.... never could explain... sometimes when I am feeling like **** or having a small depression.... girls seems to smile and be more ''active'' to get closer.

Now to OP.... don't be depressive. Good advices here.... but hating a gender for your ''celibacy or virginity'' is the key of your issue....

You putting the anger of your anxiety on something else other than like Machiavelli said: ''Fortuna, is a woman with one hair that you have to take by the hair and beat her down like you own her''.... Its a metaphor to control your fear/concept/challlenges/adversity.

Women find ''virgin'' cutes... and trust me if a girl wants you, she won't care.

Now how to get girls ?
1. Don't have that hate/fear aura around you
2. Be goal oriented towards your life progress (health career)
3. Get in social environment (where you have to interact with people)
4. Work on your mental... if you feel anxiety or hate... break it down and face it with positivism... In my case: I felt always the stuff I am running away from in social interaction are the most beneficials... so even when I don't wanna go out... I go.... and funny everytime I ''never wanted to go out... or felt the date would waste my time'' its there I got laid or got somewhere.
5. Build your frame : Social interaction, dancing, gym, having positive results at school or life... keep your positiveness.
6. Read the DJ Bible, Law of Attraction, Double your dating (these are the 3 books I read... they help your game, frame, and mindset).
7. Removing your virginity will make you feel a wall has come down

 

[Poon King]

Spot on. This is great analysis.

Of course, there are some posters on here who would confuse OP, because they'd tell you that this is a great thing and "men win" with feminism, because women are having rampant, indiscriminate sex. What they don't tell you is it's 90% of the women having sex with 10% of the guys.

These guys claim to be "spinning 5 plates at a time". Many of them are lying by the sheer mathematics of it. In 2016, it's a safe bet that less than 3% of men are dating 5 women at a time. Probably 10-20% of men are dating 2-3 at a time. But if you read this forum, every other man is a superstar player, when the reality is guys that are doing this well are not spending any time on a forum like this.

So the 80% of guys that have to work just to get 1 girl have two choices: be patient and keep working to get to the top 10%, or travel.

Having several plates isn't exactly "dating".

Casual relationships with women don't really take up that much of your time if you're doing it right. You see a woman once or twice a week to hook up. Then you have your weekend plate who is usually "top plate". This doesn't even factor in random hookups.

Don't forget that a lot of women spin plates too. They might have a beta boyfriend or husband, but they seek out more attractive men for sex on the side. Oh yes!

I'll admit that spinning more than three plates is difficult and probably more trouble than its worth. If a guy is spinning 6 plates he probably doesn't have a job.

Its very easy to spin plates and still carve out a few minutes each day to visit and post on SoSuave. Its basically a hobby. I don't see how posting here means you're not successful. Some men make time to write entire PUA books and teach classes on the subject while still getting laid often. I do most of my posting while at work during the week.

Time management.