I have been reading with interest the advise that "the doc" gives on the sosuave.com

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I have been reading with interest the advise that "the doc" gives on the sosuave.com and some other sites

have you studied his system?

if yes do you think it works? I have some doubt about what he actually says! do you think that he is a fake?

have you actually tried the system out?

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His system may be useful .

His advice column appears to be NEXT any woman who doesn't immediately throw her panties into your lap.

Older , wiser DJs than me say his system's good if you're able to just crank through three dozen numbers a week, but it's not so useful if you wnat to mack on a specific woman (in which case I reccomend DYD , but only for super-hot chicks).
 

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I think Doc is about the only "guru" (ie. guys trying to make money peddling their so-called expert advice) whose basic concepts are worth keeping in mind. Some of his specific advice (don't call until a week after you get a number, don't accept anything other than "home" numbers, don't complement, etc.) in the real world WILL cause you to miss legit opportunities, though. That's why I support his concepts only.

That being said, you can get a lot of his stuff from his newsletter archive and audio clips on his site and save yourself $100.
 

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someone not from this site... also suggested that the doc is not that real man with the poodle as depicited on the photo on his sosuave posting!!!

what u think about his system guys?

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I have the system i think its great. Keep in mind the one week thing, is designed to keep girls who dont have high interest level in you out. You dont want girls that date you just for the hell of it. His system filtersout all the crap, only thing i can recommend on his system might be kino! once you become a confident guy
 

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Generally it is a good system to follow, but it is only a guide. For instance the home phone and not calling in a week is somethin I don't agree with. But all and all I agree with about 75% of what he says.

It is really geared to attracting women who are LTR material not for short term relationships or one night seductions. Like others have said it will filter out the low to medium IL girls because it doesn't give much leeway for flakiness.

I think used in combination with DYD is the way to go; and when you gain more experience you can adopt your own particular style after knowing what works best for you.
 

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Carabano, an outright snub is where a chick won't evn respond to your djing , cold sticks her nose in the aor and walks off (ie what you're most scared of making a cold approach).
 

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thanks for your ideas dear don juaners... please keep the good info rolling in by posting more replies to this thread

thanks
 

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Originally posted by seeVip
I have the system i think its great. Keep in mind the one week thing, is designed to keep girls who dont have high interest level in you out. You dont want girls that date you just for the hell of it. His system filtersout all the crap, only thing i can recommend on his system might be kino! once you become a confident guy
The System gives you a lot of the how's and why's about women. Its a complete 'take no BS' approach to women. I checked out his information a couple of years ago and it saved me tons of time and money.
 

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But the picture with the poodle makes me wonder...

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The guy in the picture is Doc Love. His real name is Thomas Hodges and hes been a dating coach for the past several years. (hes in his 50's i believe).


His system is pure genius especially his rules for the first two months of a new relationship. It will save you alot of wasted time and money. As he says on his website " you won't be fooled again".

He gives you good advice about things such as avoiding the friends zone, how to behave on a date, how to keep her interested in an LTR, deciphering ********, weeding out undesirable women(professional daters, attention *****s, golddiggers, queen bees, mercenaries), and phone rules.

In his system he teaches that anything a woman says other than yes is a no. He also preaches uncondiotional nexting and breaking off all contact with any woman that rejects/dumps you.
 

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I don't think Doc provides any particular insight or expertise. To me, a successful system will help you get some of those borderline chicks that don't fall right into your lap but could still be won over with the right approach. Doc's system will most likely cause you to LOSE those borderline women. As people have said above, if you act as Doc tells you, the only thing you're gonna have left are the ones who had sky high interest in the first place.

Instead, I think Doc teaches two things- common sense as well as tempering your emotions and even your instincts when it comes to women. It's not terribly groundbreaking- but it does provide some solid perspective that is often needed by guys (especially when they're just starting to develop their game).
 

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Originally posted by Doppler4000
I don't think Doc provides any particular insight or expertise. To me, a successful system will help you get some of those borderline chicks that don't fall right into your lap but could still be won over with the right approach. Doc's system will most likely cause you to LOSE those borderline women.
Where's the benefit of spending time on borderline (unsure/confused) women? Doc's system is meant to help you weed out the weaklings and focus your effort on women with a high IL.

It's true that his system can help increase a woman's IL but your success rate will be better with a woman who's initial IL is 70% than one who is riding the fence at 50%.
 

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Doppler, your TOTALLY missing the point. If a chik is on the borderline, you don't want her anyways. DO NOT accept anything less than very high IL in a girl in the first place. Doc love makes a point about losing the borderline girls because they aren't worth your precious time and money. Doc love is genious. His ideas on IL are genious. The ability to read IL is the number one most important trait of a DJ. i also TOTALLY agree with doc loves approach to internet dating. he states that its totally unnecessary for younger people, and a great tool for the older crowd(above 35). I totally agree.

The only thing I disagree with Doc love about? His one week approach to calling back. Thats way to long, IMO. i think 3-4 days is a better approach. Waiting any longer than that isn't gonna raise IL or present you as a challenge any more. And he is really geared to LTR's. I don't think anyone under the age of 25 should be in a LTR whatsoever.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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