Starman
Master Don Juan
are there any Jewish or hindi warriors? Just curious
There were some jews that did physically fight the Romans. And they are a very proud people. Why can't everyone feel some pride?Originally posted by Starman
are there any Jewish or hindi warriors? Just curious
Some peoples pride can be a mask for other emotions.I'm afraid you falsely confuse pride with racism.
Not at all, everybody should be very proud of its ancestry, but do it in the privacy of their home.I believe you are very prejudiced against anyone that shows a little respect for the people that came before us.
I am ashamed of some of the THINGS they did, not of what they where.And it's apparent that you are actually ashamed of you Spanish ancestry.
So Germans and Jews are the same right? oh please!!!EVERY people has committed terrible crimes. EVERY people.
Because we took their land and killed most of their people, we confined them to reservations and destroyed their habitat, ALL THEY HAVE IS THEIR PRIDE.Tell me, why are American Indians allowed to be proud?
Probably your signature in another forum.And what is "sig hail"?
Let me see, you know about Jewish history, you know your Norse-Germanic background, you know about Slavs and their Viking connection, you know about WW2, you ask why Native americans and Jews can be very proud and you can't, you made little comments like you would "defend" any Italian, and at the same time you pretend to not know what Sig Hail means???Originally posted by MacDonald
There were some jews that did physically fight the Romans. And they are a very proud people. Why can't everyone feel some pride?
And some are just proud. It's a shame that you are so mistrusting that you automatically assume the worst in people.Some peoples pride can be a mask for other emotions.
That seems very sneaky. Why are you so afraid of pride? Have you ever been proud of you home team?Not at all, everybody should be very proud of its ancestry, but do it in the privacy of their home.
And guess what, I'm proud of the good things my ancestors did. I accept the bad things and learn from them.I am ashamed of some of the THINGS they did, not of what they where.
How are they different in your mind? They're all humans, right? They both have unique cultures that they should be free to celebrate.So Germans and Jews are the same right? oh please!!!
And certain tribes did that to other tribes. ALL other peoples have faced a form of genocide at one time. By your own logic, then, ALL peoples are allowed to be proud.Because we took their land and killed most of their people, we confined them to reservations and destroyed their habitat, ALL THEY HAVE IS THEIR PRIDE.
Actually, in the only other forum I post in, my sig is a poem by Tolkien.Probably your signature in another forum.
I'm a history major.Originally posted by jlujan
Let me see, you know about Jewish history, you know your Norse-Germanic background, you know about Slavs and their Viking connection, you know about WW2, you ask why Native americans and Jews can be very proud and you can't, you made little comments like you would "defend" any Italian, and at the same time you pretend to not know what Sig Hail means???
You are exposing what you are everytime you post.
PS. Crap! I also know a little about Arab history. Uh oh!!!!! And I even know a little bit about the Egyptians!!! My god!!!!!Originally posted by MacDonald
I'm a history major.
So I should know a little about history.
So now "defend" is some code word secret desires?
I feel bad for you.
(honestly, I don't know what "sig hail" means)
I am not mistrusting, i have studied race matters for far to long not to notice these things.And some are just proud. It's a shame that you are so mistrusting that you automatically assume the worst in people.
I am not afraid of pride, i am afraid of what some people consider pride, i am afraid of supremacist of all colors and shapes.That seems very sneaky. Why are you so afraid of pride? Have you ever been proud of you home team?
I am also proud of mine, but i just try to be considerate and not try to act as nothing happened, theres still too many people whos lives are still hell because of what some of our ancestors did, the least we could do is to keep our mouths shut and not ask for equality.And guess what, I'm proud of the good things my ancestors did. I accept the bad things and learn from them.
Yes, but the Jews have been hunted down for thousands of years, and their culture and religion is all they have to survive, while Germans have used pride to commit some of the most inhumane acts in history, if a Jew shows pride who cares, but if a German shows pride we pay attention, why? because some people use culture and pride for survival, and others use it to destroy.How are they different in your mind? They're all humans, right? They both have unique cultures that they should be free to celebrate them.
Show me one example of native americans leaving their continent to destroy and conquer another race and another culture??And certain tribes did that to other tribes. ALL other peoples have faced a form of genocide at one time. By your own logic, then, ALL peoples are allowed to be proud.
Good for you, i don't buy it.Actually, in the only other forum I post in, my sig is a poem by Tolkien.
And you don't know what Sieg hail stands for?????Originally posted by MacDonald
I'm a history major.
I said I dont' know what "sig Hail" means. Get it? And I don't focus my attention on 20th century Germany, anyway. I'm more interested in "old" Germany.Originally posted by jlujan
And you don't know what Sieg hail stands for?????
Another nail in your coffin.
LOL!!! David A. Yeagles is the white supremacists favorite Indian author, he plays music to their ears, and by the way, his articles are frequently discussed in many white power forums.Originally posted by MacDonald
I said I dont' know what "sig Hail" means. Get it? And I don't focus my attention on 20th century Germany, anyway. I'm more interested in "old" Germany.
American Indians committed genocide againts other Indian tribes. I was clear the last time I said it. It's really not complicated.
Since you are so self-hating, you probably won't like this:http://www.issues-views.com/index.php/sect/1007/article/1099
Read the last sentence. YOU insult the memory of those Indians you try to defend.
I'm going to bed so don't expect another reply tonight.
I didn't get on his back, he posted some strange stuff and the more he responded the more he showed what he was made off, anybody can be proud of who they are, i don't have a problem with that.Originally posted by BGMan
jlujan:
Geez... get off MacDonald's back already!
Personally, I think you have some sort of guilt complex. You think that if a German is proud of being German, that somehow he's some sort of racist or a nazi or some damn thing. You bring up the Jews as an example of a nation that has never persecuted anyone. Well, just ask the Palestinians, who are crammed into two tiny territories and whose leaders are assassinated and called "terrorists" because they can't stand it that Israeli settlers are illegally taking their land. (Oh sh!t! I criticized Israel! Must make me an anti-Semitic hater too, right?)
And he's obviously being sarcastic with not knowing what "Sieg hail" means because A) you misspelled it, and B) you're obviously implying that he's a nazi.
The Aztecs routinely sacrificed members of the neighboring tribes (so that the sun would rise each day); a perfect example of a "holocaust", albeit slow-motion. When Cortes came these tribes supported the Spanish invaders against the Aztecs. Big surprise. And perhaps they didn't invade another continent because they didn't have ocean-going ships?
BGMan
...except the Germans. And the Palestinians don't count for squat.Originally posted by jlujan
Yes, but the Jews have been hunted down for thousands of years, and their culture and religion is all they have to survive, while Germans have used pride to commit some of the most inhumane acts in history, if a Jew shows pride who cares, but if a German shows pride we pay attention, why? because some people use culture and pride for survival, and others use it to destroy.
...anybody can be proud of who they are, i don't have a problem with that.
I wouldn't be proud if my people had gotten a$$holed like that. All it proves is the inferiority of their arms development. Seeing as many tribes were warlike I don't want to hear any excuses about how they didn't need weapons. Of course, I'd be most ashamed of the fact that none of my ancestors ever came up with the wheel.Originally posted by jlujan
Because we took their land and killed most of their people, we confined them to reservations and destroyed their habitat, ALL THEY HAVE IS THEIR PRIDE.