I Hate Myself

[PVSSY-EATER]

No matter how much I lie to myself, this thing with women just doesnt seem to be working out. Everytime I fall down after being rejected like one million times, I get up, just to keep getting knocked back down and at the end of the week, to be left with nothing.

I apply the 3s rule at clubs, I leave with numerous of numbers: some I call the next day, some I call two or three days later, however the result is always the same, girl doesn't want to go out with me.

I am ****y and funny and the girl is ALWAYS feeling me when I get her number, but when I call to set something up, always ends in rejection and me saying, NEXT......Well, I am tired of saying NEXT!

By the way things are going I will be saying next for the rest of my life only to die with nothing. Guys, I'm sorry if I dont sound all don juan and all, but I just keep getting rejected and I am really getting to the point of burn-out.

And before someone says it, no I am not acting AFC at all. I come off as more confident, extroverted, and funny to be around, then shy, boring, and stale. I just dont understand why things just arent turning out right.

My mind keeps telling me to go get another girl, in other words, NEXT, but you come to a time where you know damn well that you did everything you were supposed to do and you totally came off as the alpha male, but when the **** still doesnt work, ****, i might as well as did the afc **** with her if the don juan **** was still going to get me rejected.

Does anyone have any words.

 

[Reach]

You have to find your balance. Obviously what you're doing is not working so you need to do something differently.

When you meet people, meet them in the daytime. Then they'll have a more solid reason for a relationship with you then meeting some player at a club.

Don't expect anything. Tone down the ****y and funny, people aren't taking you seriously. Have a read of Bad Boys' alpha technique, maybe it's more your style. Got to www.swingcatseductionlair.com and check it out. The most flexible person is always the most successful.

And you need to understand, getting a number isn't the same as getting a date. There are a few good resources for developing your inner game...

A book called The System by Roy Valentine (not sure of the first name, but the second name is right) really helped me appreciate what was going on. He had more of a suave approach, also the Gunwitch Method is similar. But both of those, and every pickup guru except maybe Tyler Durden and Bad Boy emphasise it's easier to pick up outside a bar environment.

 

[PVSSY-EATER]

Reach I really thank you for the response, but man you dont understand, I have been struggling with this for years! I have read Doc Love, Pook, etc, etc. I meet girls everywhere! And I am not always being ****y and funny I switch up to more laid back roles. Let me tell you this. Last summer, you want to know how many phone numbers I got in two months? 52! Yes, 52! From the bar, grocery stores, church, gym, the street, etc, etc. You want to know how many of them were dates, 0! Reach, I have changed my game, damn near changed my name, a lot of people know me, I am more active, more attractive, I work out more, approach more, and more, and more just still get shut the hell down. Dude, seriously, this **** is just not ****ing fair at all. This may sound funny, but it looks as though it's not meant to be. Which means I will die alone, because I be damned if I'm being gay!

 

[thefonz]

I'm going to soud trite for a little.....sounds like you're obsessed with girls, what with the username and the fact i never really hear you talk about much else. the more you obsess about something the more likely you're perception of that conept will distort itself to an unattainable level. It's not like you can't get girls, i mean your making it sound more hopeless than it really is.....you are getting their numbers after all.

go to the gym man, thats what my skinny ass does when i can't get my mind off something....it's a way to vent frustrations, test yourself, and just think about things. I'd buy a bed at the gym if i could. Or if thats a lame idea figure out what you're good at and go in that direction full force.

 

[Reach]

Man, you can read all you want but if you don't put it into action than it's not working.

As for the phone, you can't work it. That's your problem. Find techniques of using the phone to your advantage, think outside the box. What do you do when you make a phone call?

One thing I love to do is make prank calls pretending to be an Aussie working for a modelling agency and saying something like "Hey, this is Jake, I work at Elite modelling agency. We met last friday with my colleague and we took your details and a picture on a digital camera. I was wondering, have you ever considered moddelling?"

"What? I don't remember that..."

"Well, you did seem quite... uh, intoxicated..."

It's better than just saying "Hey, this is ____. Wanna go out on Friday?"

Seriously, give me a transcript of one of your phone convos. When was the last time you got laid?

 

[alphamale1]

Read more pickup books, u may be doing something wrong.
or u may be coming across as needy, maybe your posture is bad.
maybe your haircut is goofy.

check every possible reason that could make u fail.
ask a woman for her honest opinion. i mean honest opinion, ask a woman u know for the answer.

then once u know the answer, fix it up.

also if you think u have learnt enough to pickup woman then u havent cos learning doesnt stop. These are crucial in ur success with women.

Subtle (Smooth)
Bad Boy
Charming
Witty
****y and Funny (FOCUSED ON HER)

those above are the most crucial things u need to get tight.
If you have those tight, u will practically get any girl u desire.

 

[alphamale1]

oh and by the way u might think these all contradict each other
and that u might think they will make u come across as INCONGRUENT.

Subtle (Smooth)
Bad Boy
Charming
Witty
****y and Funny (FOCUSED ON HER)

Well the good news is that it wont if you know how to make it come across as CONGRUENT. If u dont know how to then ur game aint tight yet.

Ben

 

[Reach]

Originally posted by alphamale1
Read more pickup books, u may be doing something wrong.
or u may be coming across as needy, maybe your posture is bad.
maybe your haircut is goofy.

check every possible reason that could make u fail.
ask a woman for her honest opinion. i mean honest opinion, ask a woman u know for the answer.

then once u know the answer, fix it up.

I have to say I don't agree. Looking for a problem will only make them appear when there aren't any. Looking for a solution is more important. And if that doesn't work, just leaving the whole scene for a refresher is a lot better. The guy is obviously putting himself under too much pressure, no need to put on more.

also if you think u have learnt enough to pickup woman then u havent cos learning doesnt stop. These are crucial in ur success with women.

Subtle (Smooth)
Bad Boy
Charming
Witty
****y and Funny (FOCUSED ON HER)

those above are the most crucial things u need to get tight.
If you have those tight, u will practically get any girl u desire.

That's true.

 

[ketostix]

If you can get 52 number in 2 months you're doing something right. I know people say just getting number's doesn't mean anything, but girls will blow you out if you're not doing something right. I don't know how many of them you called, but something is going wrong with your phone game. Maybe if you'd recount that stage we could figure out what you could try differently.

 

[PVSSY-EATER]

Here's an example of a phone convo:

Her: hello
Me: What up this (name) from (wherever)
Her: Oh...let me call you back.
Usually I'll just end the convo right there because I know she is not interested. Most of the time, I dont even get a chance to tell her to go out with me anywhere. Dude I seriously quit.

Oh and between me and you, the last time I got laid was by a hooker.

 

[Reach]

As long as that's just between the two of us.

Man, we've found the problem. That phone tone is so wrong. You have to take some time on it!!! You haven't been implementing any of David D's simplest date set ideas. Say "Hey, this is ____, I'm quite busy a lot of the time but it'd be nice to meet up sometime in the week for a stimulating conversation. I'll be at _____ about five/whenever. If you want to come down that'll be cool."

Trust me, if you've havd 27 numbers in one month... that's about five a week then you're fine. It's about inner confidence and knowing that just because there's a little bit of indifference doesn't mean anything. Remember the last time you said hello to your freind, didn't mean the guy jumped out of his seat and gave you a hug, but you didn't just wander off with a tear in the eye? Why? Because you had the confidence in the fact the guy didn't mind you being around.

That's the sort of confidence you need to ooze.

You said you were an excellent sails man, surely you get a little bit of puzzlement, doubt or negativity from customers but can still get a sale? I worked in a book shop for a year, people would ask me "How much is this book?" "£25." "Oh..." really dissapointed. Put the book down on the desk, let me ring it through and then pay up.

One way to really get your confidence up is to get a tape recorder and record onto it some positive affirmations and listen to it when your going to sleep. I have a four track recorder so I made something up and it really changed the things that happened in my life, I couldn't believe how much I got done.

 

[PVSSY-EATER]

Reach I'm going to get back in there and fight some more. But I didn't include all the facts. I always act very busy and I ACTUALLY swear to you, use similar to that very same line that you just typed in. I guess this is just apart of life and that my reward at the end will be bigger. This girl thing is not easy, but it is simple. Like the simplest thing for me to do right now is go out and get more girls. Simple as that. I won't quit man. I won't quit. I will post back to you one week from today, and I would have gotten ten new numbers, I WILL go out on some dates, and I WILL pimp these hoes out of their money like I do to other women. (They don't know I'm a player.) Sorry for the whine man, guess I just needed somebody's shoulder to cry on. And yes I did get like 52 numbers but I did sleep with some of them, honestly. Reach, I'm going to kick ass, and I'm going to do it for you. Thank you for caring, and now that I have found a brother that cares, I must not let you down.

 

[Reach]

I appreciate the appreciation. But man, 5% is about the response rate you get from phone numbers anyway. Of 52, that's 2.6, if you laid three of those girls that's good.

Your main thing should be that you are where the woman are anyway. Set the date then get the number. That's what I'm hoping to do... I've made the mistake in the past of saying "we should meet up sometime..." and just leaving it with the girl agreeing without a solid date.

And man, I got such an indifferent response on the phone from a woman I thought "****, this isn't going off, she sounds way pissed..." then she goes "Okay, I'll be there in ten minutes." Perseverence is the right course, I hope you do well and don't take anything too seriously.

 

[SurfsupinHawaii]

pvssy eater haha,

ay brother dont get down on yourself, just be patient and be YOU

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by PVSSY-EATER
Reach I'm going to get back in there and fight some more. But I didn't include all the facts. I always act very busy and I ACTUALLY swear to you, use similar to that very same line that you just typed in. I guess this is just apart of life and that my reward at the end will be bigger. This girl thing is not easy, but it is simple. Like the simplest thing for me to do right now is go out and get more girls. Simple as that. I won't quit man. I won't quit. I will post back to you one week from today, and I would have gotten ten new numbers, I WILL go out on some dates, and I WILL pimp these hoes out of their money like I do to other women. (They don't know I'm a player.) Sorry for the whine man, guess I just needed somebody's shoulder to cry on. And yes I did get like 52 numbers but I did sleep with some of them, honestly. Reach, I'm going to kick ass, and I'm going to do it for you. Thank you for caring, and now that I have found a brother that cares, I must not let you down.

Seriously, dude, relax! It's just a game.

Obviously your strategy is getting burnt. Vary it up a bit. Try something new. And don't get all shaken if it doesn't work out...we won't HATE you on this forum if you aren't banging girls left and right 24/7. There's no FAIR or UNFAIR. Just relax and let your technique convey your natural attractiveness.

And don't get bent up about club-hos not wanting to talk to you on the phone. Lots of those girls are jsut out for the night...they give you the number as a matter of routine, or "just in case", but call them on a sober day and you get shut down. Happened to me plenty of times.

 

[gruby]

In the clubs go for one night stands. Why not?

 

[RoeCyris]

this is bullsh.it


What happend to the muff-diver ... er excuse me pvssy eater who was saying things like

who the fvck you wanna be, gentlemen, that is what a man is. You want to learn how to be a don juan so you can fvck *****es....but what you need to learn....is how to be not give a fvck about what others WANT you to be....and you will stand as a king among a congregation of fools trying to charge-up a vehicle, that is already charged, fvck......grab your balls(don't give a fvck) and jump in the front seat and drive.....MEN....THIS IS OUR ****!!!

this guy's posts are allways full of pure sh.it

and i would advice most to ignore them in the future.

 

[Giuseppe Notte]

I feel your pain bro. Few years ago I was there except for the fact that I had more success (still not enough for me)

It's really hard to give advice from here since I don't know you, I don't know how you look, don't know how you come off in real life etc.

Seems that either
1, you try to get the wrong girls at the wrong places
2, you **** something up on the approach (you are being too aggressive, or not generating enough attraction, not coming off confident enough etc.)

The solution in these situation is to try to let go of worrying and be a little more laid back.

Promise me something: forget this board, every other seduction board, book and technique for the next 2-3 weeks. Don't even connect to the net to be able to resist temptation.

Forget what you have learnt up to now and try to be your "current" self.

Don't stress yourself on delivering ****y/funny or any other seduction techniques. FORGET THEM.

Try to enjoy yourself. Go out with your friends, socialize. Visit a dancing (salsa) course, it's much easier to get QUALITY girls there.

Focus on YOURSELF and your enjoyment instead of outer stuff.

Report back within 3 weeks and tell us what has changed.

You can e-mail me privately as well, since I'm not always around this board.

Good luck!

 

[cave dweller]

up.........

Pvssy Eater,

Any man who gets 52 phone numbers in 52 weeks and does not get a steady gf---Well.........he game is weak..........

You need to go look in the mirror.

cave dweller

 

[BLUEox117]

yall really need to get into some hardcore music.

and hey, if you hate yourself, even typing that, you wont solve this problem very quickly.

learn to love yourself.