I hardly ever see girls when I go out

[Charm2K]

I think this is the brutal truth. There are a small percentage of men who are very busy and take the whole cake more or less. They got it all right, I'm sure: tattoos, the top notch body and hair line. I see this with disdain, and the lost art of actually talking with people in person, day game, approaching.

I had no luck with OLD, shut down my Tinder a couple of months ago and am very happy about that. All kinds of experiences with it have been crap: the dates has been bad, and the matches confirms hypergamy in the sense that the girls are way below my value, for instance heavily overweight. In addition, with girls in real life, one has to compete with the validation and attention they get from OLD/social media.

I'd say the best strategy against this grim situation is social circle game, where one can a little bit reduce/bypass hypergamy and demonstrate value.

But here's the thing. There are some high value men, some here on SS, that aren't simping on Instagram/Tinder/Onlyfans, but I don't think girls realise this. These men are found elsewhere...

Excellent post.

Using OLD is a real beta move. Why ? Cause it shows not only woman, but men aswell that you dont have the skills / cojones to approach woman in real life and ask for what you want. And please trust me on this a woman will find you so much more attractive if you approach in real life... they want to tell their friends "hey guess what just happend... a guy bla bla bla" ...

 

[anonymous12345]

Would that still work though if the women within the social circle also have access to the internet and therefore have the same issues as woman do who are not in that social circle?

Good question. Let's assume all are on Tinder too (that's largely the case in my social circle). I'd say one still has the problem of them having abundance and being validated, but you're past getting nexted because of that your opening line on OLD is wrong and you got dates in a natural way. I.e, you eat/hang out/bump into each other all the time, so you got interactions to a much higher degree than OLD I would say. Problem is maybe opposite, it's so much that it gets watered out, everyone friend zones each other. Using absence and distance is key. Game/escalation/etc is of importance, but then you can pick up "heat" by doing social mistakes, but who cares, there's always gossip going on.

Social circle game only works if you are the leader of the group and people look up to you there or you are missed from it if you don't show up and have a solid social profile. You also need a group where there is plenty of women who are young, single and available? Where would you realistically find that? Meet-up.com is not much of an option as its a sausage fest.

There can be several high quality males in a group while maybe one is considered the "king". But still, that doesn't mean girls find the other guys hopeless, and there's someone for each taste. No reason to get radical.

Here are some ideas:

• Dance classes
• Book circles
• A stray university course ("Modern film history I"). Access/legitimacy on the university area/campus/sphere
• Yoga/fitness classes
• Conferences/presentations (with mingling afterwards)
• Jazz and classical music concerts, if that floats your boat. Not so crazy, not so much alcohol, but the girls are likely repressed.

These are all places where you do some stupid sh1t while casually, over time do game.

 

[corrector]

Good question. Let's assume all are on Tinder too (that's largely the case in my social circle). I'd say one still has the problem of them having abundance and being validated, but you're past getting nexted because of that your opening line on OLD is wrong and you got dates in a natural way. I.e, you eat/hang out/bump into each other all the time, so you got interactions to a much higher degree than OLD I would say. Problem is maybe opposite, it's so much that it gets watered out, everyone friend zones each other. Using absence and distance is key. Game/escalation/etc is of importance, but then you can pick up "heat" by doing social mistakes, but who cares, there's always gossip going on.



There can be several high quality males in a group while maybe one is considered the "king". But still, that doesn't mean girls find the other guys hopeless, and there's someone for each taste. No reason to get radical.

Here are some ideas:

• Dance classes
• Book circles
• A stray university course ("Modern film history I"). Access/legitimacy on the university area/campus/sphere
• Yoga/fitness classes
• Conferences/presentations (with mingling afterwards)
• Jazz and classical music concerts, if that floats your boat. Not so crazy, not so much alcohol, but the girls are likely repressed.

These are all places where you do some stupid sh1t while casually, over time do game.

What about bible study groups?

 

[anonymous12345]

What about bible study groups?

I'm not religious or have experience with it, but it sounds like a situation where one can build trust, rapport, socialise and later on game/innuendo/escalation/etc.

 

[Billtx49]

What about bible study groups?

Yes. Quite a few churches have single adult religious/social groups in the church …
Adult singles Sunday school, choir, and study groups for the more serious minded.

It’s like clubs though, you have to find the right venue that you’re comfortable in and agrees with your views.
Spend some time there if religion is a big part of your life. Shared faith can be the glue that more strongly bonds two people together.