I had a self-realization that happiness bores me...please help.

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I had a self-realization that happiness bores me and feelings such as jealousy, contempt, misery, general depression, anger, and other wise melancholy feelings seem for some reason to fulfill me more. I'm definitely not a text book narcissist as I do have compassion and empathy for others but probably have manipulative tendencies without knowing sometimes. I do like being happy but it just doesn't feel quite as good as the other things do. The feeling is not as strong, it dissipates much more quickly, and it doesn't satisfy me. When it bores me I tend to find that I create drama out of nothing to generate the aforementioned thoughts and feelings and I don't know why I do this. I'm drawn to the emotional high that these feelings give me even if they don't serve me as well as happiness does or could.

I can't really give more details about a situation in particular, I'd just like to know if anyone has insight as to what could cause this or maybe if its a condition? Things like that. I know if anyone here has been following my posts that some lately have been about a woman I am involved with. She has nothing to do with this post. Or maybe she does and the situation I am in with her has brought to light within myself. Who knows. Thank you for listening.
 

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I had a self-realization that happiness bores me and feelings such as jealousy, contempt, misery, general depression, anger, and other wise melancholy feelings seem for some reason to fulfill me more. I'm definitely not a text book narcissist as I do have compassion and empathy for others but probably have manipulative tendencies without knowing sometimes. I do like being happy but it just doesn't feel quite as good as the other things do. The feeling is not as strong, it dissipates much more quickly, and it doesn't satisfy me. When it bores me I tend to find that I create drama out of nothing to generate the aforementioned thoughts and feelings and I don't know why I do this. I'm drawn to the emotional high that these feelings give me even if they don't serve me as well as happiness does or could.

I can't really give more details about a situation in particular, I'd just like to know if anyone has insight as to what could cause this or maybe if its a condition? Things like that. I know if anyone here has been following my posts that some lately have been about a woman I am involved with. She has nothing to do with this post. Or maybe she does and the situation I am in with her has brought to light within myself. Who knows. Thank you for listening.
when in (emotional) pain the body produces natural pain-killing chemicals to compensate.

in this way one can become conditioned to associate (emotional) pain with pleasure.

welcome to the world of women...
 

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Yeah, to be honest, the problem is you. It's something inside of you.

I think you don't have any experience or much experience with relationships/women. People usually have a ton of "bad" relationships (like the way your inner self is now) before they can appreciate calmness/stability.

Other times, it's maturity/growth. You can handle stability. You like it.

I know because everytime there is a calm/stable period, my significant other will just end up thinking I faded away when I am busy and I will just come back ... I haven't forgotten lol. Then nonsense ensues. It's as if stability bores them.

I don't know what to do because stability is better than nonsense. I don't have time to deal with stupid childish games
 

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thatfeel, first, congrats for writing a mature-sounding post. Most people would whine and say "I like to feel that way, that's my right! If you don't like it that's your problem!" or, "I don't know what to do, wah, wah!" and shoot down every comment from other posters. You simply state the problem clearly and ask for help. I like that.

My thoughts:

--Obviously there is no simple switch to turn to change this; if there was, you would have done so.

--You have identified the problem: you enjoy the emotional highs from negative feelings. You know this is not good, because it holds you back in several ways: development, social relations. Good.

--The problem could be either biological or due to experiences, or a combination of both. When we are born, we are prone to different strength in our emotional responses. Otherwise siblings, having grown up under the same circumstances, would have pretty much the same personalities. I know from my own experience that that is definitely not the case. The different behavior DNA is a fact. However, discipline and experience can still help. Being intelligent also lets you identify a problem and help yourself easier.

--You are 22 I see from your earlier posts. That means little life experience. The problem will get better when you gain more life experience, so you have that working for you.

--I would prescribe a "holistic" response, if you will:

-Healthy food, first of all. It really does affect a person's emotional state, research confirms this. Limit the sugar. (sugar from fruit is fine, it takes much longer to go through your system, giving the body more time to deal with it.) Limit the coffee and alcohol. Try to eat only unprocessed meat, chicken, fish, vegetables and fruit. For extra benefit, do like me and many others and skip wheat totally. That is also good for your skin, good if you often have headaches, and good for feeling less tired. Also controls your weight in an amazing way. I could go into this in more detail, but I digress.

-Exercise also has a healthy effect on your mood. Ah, the joys of weightlifting! You could check around in the forum at bodybuilding.com, look at the stickies for newbies about barbells and dumbbells. Best exercise in the world. I hear some people like to swim and jog too. Actually, swimming probably has the best positive effect on your mind.

-Remove unnecessary things from your life. Like computer games. You don't have to remove it completely, just reduce it. You can, like some do, reduce porn. Reduce activities that bring you more pain than gain.

-Find new social venues. Try meetup.com. You don't have to become totally committed to something new, but just meeting new people often has a positive effect on us.

-Always keep things clean around you. May sound negligible, but it isn't. I always feel much better when I keep my home spotless. At the very least, always put things away, make the bed, do the dishes right away, etc. The mind feels peaceful afterward.

-Speaking of fixing up your home, how about getting some green plants? I have plenty of plants, I like it. Get the green kind without flowers and they will last longer. It is fun to water something, give it vitamins and see it grow.

-Get out in nature. How long has it been since you put your hand against treebark? How long has it been since you touched the grass? We were made to be out in nature every day. Our minds yearn for it.

-Meditate. It doesn't have to be the mystery-sounding kind where you "find your inner energy". Simply take a moment to sit down with a straight back, fold your hands in your lap, and focus on the pit of your stomach while controlling your breathing. Focus on what emotions you want to feel during the day. Tell yourself to feel those emotions. Athletes do this, picture the result they want from their day, tell themselves to work hard to achieve that result. It helps you keep it in mind all day. It works!


There are no easy solutions, but you can improve yourself, and then the problems become less troublesome. These are some suggestions.
 

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Happiness isn't boring. It's your life that is boring, then you're using the drama to fill the gap left by the boredom. First thing you have to do is understand that the reason that the word "happiness" has eluded people for so long is because people didn't know what "it" is.

I'm one of the few people who knows what it is and it's so simple. I can explain why it's been so elusive to many people for thousands of years. It's not because I'm any smarter, just that I carefully observe. It's because I've observed my own experiences and other people's experiences.

Happiness isn't ONE STATE. This is where many of the philosophers over the past few thousand years screwed up. Happiness is a word that encompasses MANY DIFFERENT emotional states. When we laugh with friends or watch a good comedy, in that moment we would say we're "happy". When we go to an amusement park and enjoy a day there, we say we're "happy", in that moment.

When you share a moment of connection with a woman you love, you could call that "happiness" too. When you're relaxing out in nature, in the woods or at the beach, you can say you're "content" or "happy". When you play a game you think is fun and escape your worries, you call that feeling in that moment "happiness". When you feel a sense of fulfillment from your work or a job well done, you feel satisfied and maybe even what some would call "happy" in that moment.

You play video games with friends and joke around and talk trash. Again, you could say you're having a good time and having fun, usually when people are having fun we can say they look happy. You might also feel good when you're enjoying your favorite music. Also, when you feel like you have purpose and are moving in the right direction towards your purpose, many experience contentment, satisfaction, and happiness.

So to answer the question that many people and philosophers never understood the answer to........

What is happiness?

Happiness= pleasurable emotions

Unhappiness= painful emotions

When we see people who are laughing or excited or calm and relaxed, or when we are absorbed in something we enjoy, when we feel love and connection with someone, when we work towards a purpose and feel satisfaction, when we are playful, when we're having fun, or simply just thankful and appreciative, when we have a lighthearted conversation or an interesting conversation, any number of things we could label under happiness if we wanted to.

When a person is disappointed or frustrated or sad or afraid or depressed or any number of other painful emotions, we call this unhappiness.

Now, in less than a page we've unraveled that "mystery". Not so elusive or mysterious once we realize how simple happiness really is. We can simply laugh it off now, and get down to the business of enjoying life. Now, see if your experiences match up to what I've said so far. If it does, here comes the fun part.

***You list everything in your environment and in your past experiences that you enjoy. The small and the big things. List colors you enjoy, tv shows you enjoy, music you like that makes you feel good (avoid music with nice melodies or good beats that leaves you feeling depressed....stick with music that has a nice melody and/or beat that leaves you feeling good afterwards). Notice activities that make you feel good. People you enjoy being around, etc. Surround yourself with the things and people you enjoy. You can do this for free or little money. TV is free. Music on the radio is free. Opening a window or letting the shades back to let sunlight in is free. You get the picture. I'm not advocating blind consumerism, but a using of your present environment to your advantage and to use it as a way to push you in the direction of happiness.

The idea isn't to be in a high state of excitation all of the time. You can be in a state of excitation some of the time and in a state of relaxation other times. Pick a balance that works for you. Some of the things you enjoy may trigger milder or calmer pleasant emotions, while others will create stronger, more intense pleasurable feelings. Excitement 100% of the time might becoming exhausting. But a dash here and there is nice, along with some relaxation and being absorbed in activities or things.

Also, develop an attitude of thankfulness for everything good in life. Find a purpose that gives you fulfillment as well. Your purpose could be as simple as working towards specific goals and/or being true to your own personal philosophy and living it every day. It doesn't have to be anything profound. A barrage of pleasures without any purpose or goal in mind that is in the background, moving you, might begin to feel empty. Then again, maybe not.

Make sure to develop a code of ethics, which you probably already have. Never betray your sense of right and wrong for an endless flood of pleasures but find pleasure in living up to your code of conduct. The pleasures will be even sweeter if you have a clear conscience and choose to live a good life. You can live up to your code of ethics, be a good person, and experience TONS of pleasure too. They are not mutually exclusive.

I think if you do all of this, you'll find the drama and b.s. a lot less appealing. I could be wrong, but I believe that happiness isn't the problem but that boredom is. Then you use the crappy feelings to at least jolt you out of the boredom. It accomplishes its purpose but I think for you there's a better way, otherwise you'd be completely satisfied with your misery and you wouldn't have mentioned it on this board, as if you're looking for some kind of answer and a way out.

If you do exactly as I've instructed in this reply, you will get out of your pattern by doing the opposite of what you've been doing.

A final piece. Mentally review and relive pleasant experiences from your past every day, for fifteen minutes. From any time, recent or distant past. Your mind will throw some recent ones and some good experiences you haven't thought about in years. It could be major, very memorable experiences (vacations or some social event that was somehow different) or it could be small ( lunch at a place you went to 10 years ago or a spot you use to go to or the time you went hiking at such and such a place.....it could be times with friends or family or a woman you forgot about).

It could also be as mundane as a good conversation you had with someone a week ago or something you enjoyed for lunch two weeks ago.

So your mind becomes focused on good memories and you have good experiences in the present. With so many good things on your mind and in your environment, you can't help but feel good.
 

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Happiness is the opposite spectrum to sadness. You cannot sustain a period of happiness without experiencing sadness.

When Plato talks about the Good, he is talking about a state that is beyond the constant state of fluctuating emotions such as happiness/sadness. A place beyond reason (intellect), belief (religion) and illusion (art).

Basically what he was talking about was meditation which is what one needs to do if you want to experience a state of pure knowledge. It feels pretty good too. :)
 

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The fact is that us guys are dealt with the card of responsibility for everything
 

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Happiness turns into boredom sooner or later. What is evolution? It means that we are constantly growing.

Now happiness and sadness is very alike. If you know sadness, then there is possibility to know happiness. It is like when you are forced to fast for a week, to feel hungry fr a week, them you know what it really feels like to feel satisfied. You have taken it for granted now.

It is very much alike with how we deal with women. Only when they know the feeling of losin us, do thy k ow the feeling of appreciation having us.
 

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Happiness is the opposite spectrum to sadness. You cannot sustain a period of happiness without experiencing sadness.
You need to learn from the sadness to be able to become happy. Once you've learnt the nature of your own mind and how to control your emotions and thoughts you can stay happy until the day you die.
 

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Happiness is not about feeling joyful or happy all the time.

Happiness is dealing with life whether it be fantastically, or awkwardly.

No one likes a depressed person. Depression is a selfish thing. Hit the gym, and slowly change your perspective on life. There is no special pill, or special words to read that will change it.

As human beings we have tendency to focus on what we don't want.

Its all about perspective.
 
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