I had a coffee date but don't know how it went.

[razkay]

It wasn't really coffee, we met at an ice cream parlor.

I didn't kino at all.

Two reasons...

1. We met online so that's the first time we saw each other in person.
2. How do you kino on a coffee date when you're sitting across from each other?

The date lasted for about one hour. We held eye contact, she didn't talk or text on a cell phone, and she was very responsive and seemed eager to talk.

I'm thinking kino only works on the first date if you and your date know each other from real life. If you're meeting someone in person for the first time (and on a coffee date), it wouldn't feel natural.

She talked 3/4 of the time and I didn't blab on too much about myself.

Now, the real test is will she agree to a second date?

Does anyone think lack of kino on the first date when you're meeting someone for the first time a problem? I did initiate a hug at the end if that means anything. I didn't ask to hug, I just held my arms out.

I was going to transition the date to a nearby museum but she had work to do, so I didn't press the issue.

Should I call her the middle of next week and set something up for Friday evening/night? I think bowling will be fun, we can still talk plus it allows for kino. And then go eat at a restaurant that serves food which she said she likes.

 

[kokane]

Bowling is a perfect idea. Dont worry you are doing pretty fine. Not excellent, but you are doing well enough. Just get another date or any other engagement so that you dont dwell too much on this girl. And avoid over-analysing things dude.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Start applying "kino" as soon as you meet; as in, hug her when you first greet her, and pay attention to her reaction. That will clue you in to how comfortable and touchy feely she is. It is your gauging point. If you will extend your arms at the end, you might as well do it from the begginning.

 

[razkay]

Bowling is a perfect idea. Dont worry you are doing pretty fine. Not excellent, but you are doing well enough. Just get another date or any other engagement so that you dont dwell too much on this girl. And avoid over-analysing things dude.

Yeah, I'm already talking to other chicks online. The reason why I'm trying to get dates online because I'm moving soon and I'm waiting to sarge chicks in real life after the move.

 

[razkay]

Start applying "kino" as soon as you meet; as in, hug her when you first greet her, and pay attention to her reaction. That will clue you in to how comfortable and touchy feely she is. It is your gauging point. If you will extend your arms at the end, you might as well do it from the begginning.

I don't have much experience going out on dates, so it just feels unnatural. I assume it will only get better as time goes on. In fact, I was thinking about hugging at the beginning but didn't... argh!

 

[Joe Stud]

be more agressive on the 2nd date. kino her during bowling. put your arm around her as you walk out... or walk into the restaurant. if possible, sit beside her at the restaurant. and kiss, not just hug afterwards.

 

[DannyM]

You should of kino'd her and possibly kissed her on the 1st date...seriously what do you have to lose? Usually when i pickup a girl on net i will speak to her on fone for ten mins the night before as it just seems to be a much more natural transition from typing, to talking, to talking in person if you get what i mean....Take her for coffee for the 1st date and just get to know about her so that you can make a judgment of whether you want to spend more time with her or not, If the answer is yes just ask her if she would like to go to the next location bar, cinema, bowling, whatever it doesn't really matter, when you get outside the coffee shop open the door for her and then as soon as she walks out extend your hand for her to hold....keep hands held until you get to next location and precede to develop to more intense kino there.

The reason i say this is i think you are having problems with kino transitioning....with a girl you met off the net its alot more natural to hold her hand first, then put your arm round her in next place and finally kiss, as opposed to waiting for the end of the date and just having you both feel awkward about a kiss as you've had no kino buildup.

 

[razkay]

If I go out with her again, I will feel much better about kino. But I do have a problem using it on the first date. Thanks for the help.

 

[909pua]

It wasn't really coffee, we met at an ice cream parlor.

I didn't kino at all.

Two reasons...

1. We met online so that's the first time we saw each other in person.
2. How do you kino on a coffee date when you're sitting across from each other?

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who cares if its the first date. its the best way to know if she REALLY LIKES you. if you KINO at this stage, not only will you know if she's interested, but you will also make the comfort level between you increase if she's digging you. If she doesn't touch back after so many attempts of KINO, then she's not interested or if she tells you not to touch you.

wait a minute, some girls do that where you KINO and they tell you to stop, its a sh#t test, they want to see how you react. You can tell the difference between a shT test and a "im not interested" response.

if she likes you, doing this will get you closer to her panties if you do it right. If she says something like "hey stop touching me!" then you say "why you don't like me touching or caressing you?" see how she responds. If she doesn't answer, she is sh#t testing you...if she says "stop it im serious" end the date immediately and make up an excuse that you have to be somewhere that you forgot about.... then don't contact her til she contacts you. At that point, if she contacts you, just be straight out and tell her you want to bone her and start touching her in the RIGHT places.. and tell her "let's go"./.. if she says "stop this" tell her "why are you playing games? its either you let me get in your pants or im leaving, stop wasting my time"

if she's sitting across you, KINO would be like taking your hands and touching her knees or tickling her knees or footsies

i just cant believe why KINO is a big subject here, like guys are scared to do it to women!

 

[909pua]

You should of kino'd her and possibly kissed her on the 1st date...seriously what do you have to lose? Usually when i pickup a girl on net i will speak to her on fone for ten mins the night before as it just seems to be a much more natural transition from typing, to talking, to talking in person if you get what i mean....Take her for coffee for the 1st date and just get to know about her so that you can make a judgment of whether you want to spend more time with her or not, If the answer is yes just ask her if she would like to go to the next location bar, cinema, bowling, whatever it doesn't really matter, when you get outside the coffee shop open the door for her and then as soon as she walks out extend your hand for her to hold....keep hands held until you get to next location and precede to develop to more intense kino there.

The reason i say this is i think you are having problems with kino transitioning....with a girl you met off the net its alot more natural to hold her hand first, then put your arm round her in next place and finally kiss, as opposed to waiting for the end of the date and just having you both feel awkward about a kiss as you've had no kino buildup.

HELL NO, i disagree. its better to do KINO first before you hold hands or put arm around her......

 

[LittleBigOne]

So far i think you did pretty well. She agreed with a meeting and it looks that the meeting with this girls was good. "Reward" this girl by calling her for another date. Bowling is great. It's action and fun. And there you can start with kino!

A little patience might be wise. You don't need to kino at once during the first meeting. You should focus on QUALIFYING her. In general ask yourself the questions: Did she gave me a good time? Does she like my style? Is she flexible enough? Does she understand my humor?

Read Anti Dump in the DJ Bible. I work with it right know and it makes me really feel more in control with girls.
Good luck and keep us updated.

 

[DJDamage]

You should of kino'd her and possibly kissed her on the 1st date...seriously what do you have to lose?

Bingo, if you do that then you will know exactly where you stand by the end of the date rather then second guessing yourself for the next one.

It is why I avoid coffee shops for a first dates because I don't want the girl to think, I want her to have fun <less thinking, more emotions> and also it will give me a better chance of kino'ing her and kiss close her after she had fun.

Save the coffee dates to girls you are already fvcking.

 

[guywhoneedshelp]

Did you have fun? I think dates should be fun, don't you ?

 

[razkay]

So, what's a good first date? What if she doesn't like bowling or miniature golf? Isn't the man suppose to have a time and place already in mind? If you start asking the girl what she wants to do, then you're doomed.

Again, what's a good action first date that most girls will probably agree too. It can't be too far where they will feel uncomfortable and not too expensive.

 

[razkay]

I'm pretty sure I failed this date.

Oh well, I will keep failing until this sh*t becomes an art form. I'm tired of falling for female bullsh*t (like they rather not kiss on a first date or they don't like guys who move too fast) and not acting on my impulses. If I'm not breaking the law, then I will do what I feel. If I want to hold her hand, or touch the back of her neck, or play with her hair then I'm going to do it.

I need to start acting on my impulses and first thoughts. There's a DJ inside me, but social conditioning has created many walls and barriers.

 

[Nutz]

Low investment dates should be how you start. Kino from the moment you meet. A huge and peck on the cheek is a solid way to sexually escalate from the word go.