I graduated from college sat...

[user43770]

The asinine attacks on Oak are really uncalled for! geez, this is a forum to help fellow guys out what ever happened to the spirit of this forum? oak, have you considered teaching esl abroad? you know go live in another country, travel, experience another culture, come back here in a year. PM me if interested.

You know how I know you're full of sh1t? Because you told me I should move to Mexico...you don't know sh1t.

Oak, I haven't liked you since I came to this forum. I've always got sick of your negativity...fvck you...

 

[user43770]

Sound like a hardass now, cupcake.

 

[Desert Fox]

J0n024

Please don't listen to this clueless lost fvck known as oakraiders.

A biology degree is useless unless:

a) you wanna go get a PhD in biology
b) you wanna go to medical school and get an MD

Otherwise your biology degree is useless when wanting to apply to corporate jobs and what ever else is out there. Phys therapy, might be useful, but you need a more marketable degree as a backup.

also I don't think there's a doctorate is phys therapy...might as well go to med school

FYI for all your insecure fvcks wanting to know my concentration it's in chemistry, not a slacker major like psychology or philosocrap.

 

[Desert Fox]

A college degree is a college degree. Just by having one, he's doing better than a lot of people out there(though times are changing, just like Bob Dylan predicted, the standard now is a Bachelors)

The standard now is a Masters. Catch up with the times. Everyone and their mom has a bachelor's.

What you wrote here shows that you proably have either no bachelor's since you value such a mundane degree so much, or you have a crap major like oak and a worthless degree as a piece of paper.

"Doing alot better than a lot of people"

haha you sad fvck. Your'e satisfied with being better than homeless people and the other deadbeats out there hahahahaha fvckin sad. Oak had the opportunity to go to college and he threw it away. Tough luck for him, his life is fvcked not mine.

 

[CoolBlue]

There is nothing wrong with majoring in Psychology. If you have a true passion for psychology, understand what a psychologist does and being able to accept the lifestyle of a psychologist, then it is really admirable to major in the field to be a good psychologist.

However this is clearly not the case for Oak. He's happy that school is over (showing that he does not know that it takes a masters or PhD to be a practicing psychologist) and is dreaming of making $90k a year and living the high life. He probably took it up to get a college degree which he thinks will help him get ahead in life (and psychology is probably the best major he could get into). Sad thing is that he hasn't woken up to face reality yet, which is the reason why he's bait for ridicule and flames here. Sure having a college degree is a good thing, but is the 4 years and school fees worth getting the slight advantage in a sales job position? Couldn't he have chosen a more lucrative degree? Since he obviously doesn't plan to put his training into use, he might as well just choose a major that will pay the most.

I see this crap all the time here in my country. A kid feels that biology is his favourite subject and decides to major in life sciences. What he doesn't realize is the lifestyle of a scientist and what it takes to be an accomplished scientist. Soon the kid is stuck in a lab overnight working for a PhD, having no social life and getting paid only a small stipend till he's in his mid 30s. Most of them usually just give up after getting their bachelors and become insurance and real estate agents which does not really need a degree in the first place.

Moral of the story: know what you want to do before getting into it!

 

[Wiesman44]

Desert Rose is 100% correct on this one.

The clueless f#ck known as Oakraiderz is just that, a clueless fu#k. Some of us have actually already gone through college and were giving pretty good advice, but as usuall, the younger guys think they know everything already.

Typical

 

[oakraiderz2]

There is nothing wrong with majoring in Psychology. If you have a true passion for psychology, understand what a psychologist does and being able to accept the lifestyle of a psychologist, then it is really admirable to major in the field to be a good psychologist.

However this is clearly not the case for Oak. He's happy that school is over (showing that he does not know that it takes a masters or PhD to be a practicing psychologist) and is dreaming of making $90k a year and living the high life. He probably took it up to get a college degree which he thinks will help him get ahead in life (and psychology is probably the best major he could get into). Sad thing is that he hasn't woken up to face reality yet, which is the reason why he's bait for ridicule and flames here. Sure having a college degree is a good thing, but is the 4 years and school fees worth getting the slight advantage in a sales job position? Couldn't he have chosen a more lucrative degree? Since he obviously doesn't plan to put his training into use, he might as well just choose a major that will pay the most.

Are you kidding?? SO what, im happy i graduate, like most people are. I KNOW that one needs a PhD to be a psychologist. The problem i have is that everyone is saying i majored in psychology for some asinine reason, such as it was the easiest major or because i thought it would pay me a lot of money. I studied it because i was fascinated in people. Just because im not going to grad school right now and want a job in sales doesnt mean that im done with school forever. I didnt pick psychology because it would get me ahead or whatever, because i never felt that was the case. I did it because i like it and i learned some really cool sh*t. My physiological psych lab was by far the coolest class ive ever been in. I would LOVE to look at brains all day and test people for parkinsons and other neurological ailments. I still dont understand how its appearently impossible for me to make more than 50k at any point in my life because i majored in psychology.

Oak, I haven't liked you since I came to this forum. I've always got sick of your negativity...fvck you...

Ok, excellent. Im a hardass blah blah blah. If i bother you so much then f*ck off. Im not gonna take your sh*t just because you think i should. Ill admit i was negative a while ago, but to think im the same person that i was then is dumb.

Please don't listen to this clueless lost fvck known as oakraiders.

A biology degree is useless unless:

a) you wanna go get a PhD in biology
b) you wanna go to medical school and get an MD

Otherwise your biology degree is useless when wanting to apply to corporate jobs and what ever else is out there. Phys therapy, might be useful, but you need a more marketable degree as a backup.

Youre a retard. You pretty much said what i said...

A degree in biology, is just like my psychology degree (at my school theyre both a BS)...except with a psych degree you learn things that are applicable to the real world. But since you plane to go to grad school...(whats a bd????) then you might be ok, but you need a phd to get real work

Oak had the opportunity to go to college and he threw it away. Tough luck for him, his life is fvcked not mine.

The reason im acting like a hardass and getting irritated is because of stupid arguments like this. What youre saying ...if you major in psychology, then your life is f*cked...if you dont see a problem with this then youre a dumbass.

I didnt post about the next 10 years of my life and what i plan to do. Yea, i want a job in sales, so the f*ck what. I need to pay my bills and its the best thing out there to do so. For most of the jobs that I applied for, they look for a 4 year degree. I know majoring in psychology wasnt going to be lucrative, and if thats why i did it then im a dumbass, which it isn't. I actually want to go to grad school and get by phd in clinical psychology with a concentration in neuropsych and do neuropsychological test. Funny how im the negative one when i get acosted for the sole fact i went to school for psychology. I wanna work in sales while volunteering in a mental health facility, then get my masters and eventually get my phd. If i think im going to make 90k at some point in my life whats wrong with that? Being quick to jump the gun and tell me i never will doesnt seem like a position you guys should be taking. And yea, maybe i have been acting like a hardass, but when you get attacked because you MAJORED in something and people say your life is done, you might just bit back with something called the truth.

I dont think my judgement has become impaired, because ive been doing a lot of research for the past two years about grad school and jobs that i can get with a BS. WHen was the last time you guys applied for a job in sales, looked at what jobs psych majors get or looked at grad programs for psychology? Everything against me has been based on the fact that the individuals dont like me or how i act on this site. None of it has to do with any real facts or information. Once again, someone tell me how my life is f*cked since i majored in psychology.....I may act like i know everything, but in regards to getting a job and having a particular degree, i do know something. A guy works with my dad at verizon doing computer sh*t and has a degree in psychology. Employers WILL train you because you have to learn how to use their equipment. This is why i said i have a wide variety of opportunities.

By the way, a masters in psychology DOESNT pay well.

Youre attacks and arguments are ridiculous and off based. Well...it sucks for me because my life is over since i graduated with a psych degree so i guess i should just end it all...

Desert Rose is 100% correct on this one.

The clueless f#ck known as Oakraiderz is just that, a clueless fu#k. Some of us have actually already gone through college and were giving pretty good advice, but as usuall, the younger guys think they know everything already.

Typical

Yea, ive gone through college as well. I didnt conjure up all this stuff on my own. Like i said, ive done my fair share of investigating and getting information. I too have been given advice. I know you dont like me either, but if you also think my life is f*cked then youre a retard.

 

[CoolBlue]

Are you kidding?? SO what, im happy i graduate, like most people are. I KNOW that one needs a PhD to be a psychologist. The problem i have is that everyone is saying i majored in psychology for some asinine reason, such as it was the easiest major or because i thought it would pay me a lot of money. I studied it because i was fascinated in people. Just because im not going to grad school right now and want a job in sales doesnt mean that im done with school forever. I didnt pick psychology because it would get me ahead or whatever, because i never felt that was the case. I did it because i like it and i learned some really cool sh*t. My physiological psych lab was by far the coolest class ive ever been in. I would LOVE to look at brains all day and test people for parkinsons and other neurological ailments. I still dont understand how its appearently impossible for me to make more than 50k at any point in my life because i majored in psychology.

Why did you major in psychology for then if you're just gonna work in sales? Wouldn't a marketing degree serve you better? You chose it because you are fascinated in people and not because you want to be a psychologist? Well then you chose it for the wrong reason.

Are you sure you know that a psychologist needs a PhD to practice before you enrolled? Then why did you go "Hooray for no more school!" when you obviously have many more years of schooling to go? Doesn't make sense to me. The fact that you said you have a wide range of options when you don't even have more options than someone without a degree shows that you're still in your baby world.

I dunno about your country but in my country psychologists don't get to look at brains and do parkinson's tests. Those are jobs for doctors. Psychologists mainly give counselling and behavourial therapy. Psychology is seen as a joke of a science here too. Majoring in psych will get in a BA instead of a BSc in my country.

Also, I'm not saying that it is impossible to make more than 50k, but you need to know where you stand and the odds you face. Which you obviously don't if you think your psych major will give you plenty of options and a strong advantage over other people. This will why people here are making fun of you too. You need to know where you stand, make appropriate decisions and put in the appropriate hardwork and take in the advice of those who knows to have a chance to be successful.

 

[Kerpal]

Just because you dont have the highest paying job doesnt mean you wont make money. Get your sh*t straight.

I never said anything about a "highest paying job". If you were only interested in money then you probably would have studied engineering, finance, law or something like that. I guess I just don't see the point in spending a lot of time and money majoring in something that has nothing to do with your career field. If you want a sales job, wouldn't you have been better off majoring in some sort of business field?

You can always study stuff that you're interested in on your own, you don't have to go to college for that. But it seems like a waste to go to college and learn something that you're not going to use, when you could have used that time and money to learn things that will help you in your career field.

Sure, sometimes people get jobs that have nothing to do with their majors. But for example, in the banking field, who is going to have an easier time finding that job, and performing well at it: the guy who studied finance or the guy who studied philosophy? Especially with the way the economy is now, we need every advantage we can get when it comes to finding a job.

I'm an accounting major BTW. I'm interested in it, and you can make a decent living with it, so I thought it was a good fit for me. I was also interested in history, but I know it's hard to make much money with that, so I went with accounting. I can read history books on my own, and I need to pay the bills somehow.

 

[oakraiderz2]

Why did you major in psychology for then if you're just gonna work in sales? Wouldn't a marketing degree serve you better? You chose it because you are fascinated in people and not because you want to be a psychologist? Well then you chose it for the wrong reason.

Are you sure you know that a psychologist needs a PhD to practice before you enrolled? Then why did you go "Hooray for no more school!" when you obviously have many more years of schooling to go? Doesn't make sense to me. The fact that you said you have a wide range of options when you don't even have more options than someone without a degree shows that you're still in your baby world.

I dunno about your country but in my country psychologists don't get to look at brains and do parkinson's tests. Those are jobs for doctors. Psychologists mainly give counselling and behavourial therapy. Psychology is seen as a joke of a science here too. Majoring in psych will get in a BA instead of a BSc in my country.

Also, I'm not saying that it is impossible to make more than 50k, but you need to know where you stand and the odds you face. Which you obviously don't if you think your psych major will give you plenty of options and a strong advantage over other people. This will why people here are making fun of you too. You need to know where you stand, make appropriate decisions and put in the appropriate hardwork and take in the advice of those who knows to have a chance to be successful.

I didnt major in it to work in sales. I did it because initially i wanted to be a clinical psychologist and counsel people. As i took different classes my desires changed. I dont really want to work in sales, but i thing its the best paying job i can get at the time being. Yes, i know i would need a PhD to practice, or i can get a PsyD as well. Like i said, ive done plenty of research. I said no more school because im done and dont plan on going back for a while, i guess i got a little too excited. Neuropsychologists give neuropsychological assesments to patients. Psychologists dont soley counsel. Even clinical psychologists do research about psychological disorders. I meant i have many options in regards to the field i want to go into. People are involved in everything, learning, memory, decision making, judgement and how people behave in certain settings is a part of everyday life. Because i have learned about all of them i feel psychology is a part of every job. I think these things because from what i have read. I didnt make this up and im not being headstrong because its my opinion. And i DONT think i have a strong advantage against other people. I think i can still get a job, and i use my major everyday. Persuasion, negotiation, attitudes, habits are a part of many different businesses. I believe with the understanding of such and work experience, i will be successful. I may come of sounded a bit ****y about it because i strongly believe i have skills and knowledge about things people in other majors dont. Read the second and 4th post in the following thread.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=156660&highlight=job+sales

Trust me, i know what im talking about even though you guys dont think i do. I have talked to enough people and researched enough stuff online to know. But for someone to say my life is f*cked is a stretch of the imagination. When i made this post i didnt say anything about anything, i was attacked by people because what i decided to major in. I know im not gonna get a job making a bunch of money, thats why i want to go into sales FOR NOW. So i can make enough to pay bills. I know my degree isnt the best and ive known it for a long time. I sometimes wish i would have done finance, but i didnt. Im not gonna sulk and be pessimistic about my choice because its done and its all hindsight.

Everyone THINKS they know about what a BS in psych is good for, but they may be misinformed. I think some of you are being to critical. Just because i dont become a psychologist doesnt mean i shouldnt have majored in psych. I know people who go to grad school for nothing even close. But psychology is something that is a part of every single day and i have learned more than enough and i will continue to do so to get a good job. I also studied spanish and will become fluent asap and increase my value even more.

Its ok that people think its a stupid major, i dont have a problem with that. But to insult and attack me as a person and for my choice is completely unecessary. Do a search for possible jobs for a bachelors in psychology. Im not stupid...my knowledge comes from sources other than myself. All in all it shouldnt even be a big deal. Funny how people disapprove of what i see, but dont see a problem with those who think my life is over. Regardless whether anyone agrees with me, you all dont know what i know and havent read what i have. F*ckin ridiculous.

http://www.psichi.org/pubs/articles/article_50.aspx

http://campus.udayton.edu/~psych/handbook/BACHOP~1.HTM

http://www.apa.org/ed/wanttobecome.html

Before you all continue to tell me how much of a dumbass i am, read those.

 

[comic_relief]

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[Upside]

The standard now is a Masters. Catch up with the times. Everyone and their mom has a bachelor's.

Only 27% of the American population has a bachelors degree. Masters is far from standard. Neither of my parents even went to college.

 

[Desert Fox]

Only 27% of the American population has a bachelors degree. Masters is far from standard. Neither of my parents even went to college.

Masters for a respectable job. Even something like high school teaching you need a masters.

Your parents were from a different generation. Back then money was worth more too. If they tried applying for a job these days they'd be sh1t out of luck. If they are expendable in whatever job they work not they will probably be fired soon in this economy for cheaper, newer hands.

 

[oakraiderz2]

Masters for a respectable job. Even something like high school teaching you need a masters.

You dont really know that, you just think it and therefore its true. You only need a bachelors to teach high school. I know people who just graduated who are becoming teachers. Ive also met people who only have a bachelors and are teachers. With a masters you get paid more. Stop acting like you know EVERYTHING, because you dont and youve demonstrated you dont.

 

[Desert Fox]

You dont really know that, you just think it and therefore its true. You only need a bachelors to teach high school. I know people who just graduated who are becoming teachers. Ive also met people who only have a bachelors and are teachers. With a masters you get paid more. Stop acting like you know EVERYTHING, because you dont and youve demonstrated you dont.

noob, i know this from personal experiences. When I went back to visit my high school a few years ago my old teachers were all telling me how they were in school getting masters to keep their jobs.

good luck getting that sales job to pay off your college loans

 

[Poonani Maker]

Where are you applying to?? Jobs around here are few and far between. Tight. My degree was in Finance, but when I got out I got a job as a systems analyst. I quit that job because they didn't promote me for all of my hard work (I was too slow at solving computer problems) telling them that I'm not a programer and "siranara." When I moved out here, I had nothing, so I took a hard labor job, and, made it work for me. I'm happy.

The MAIN thing is, that, you got that piece of paper at a good school. A degree DOES matter to an employer, no matter where you work. It got me through doors I never would have gotten through. It shows an ability to stick with something and a sophistication of sorts.

 

[oakraiderz2]

noob, i know this from personal experiences. When I went back to visit my high school a few years ago my old teachers were all telling me how they were in school getting masters to keep their jobs.

good luck getting that sales job to pay off your college loans

Ok...just like you said everyone has a bachelors. I still dont even understand why you care. You said you were done arguing 22 posts back. Im still waiting for you to explain all of my bad choices that ive allegedly made...

Where are you applying to??

Jobs in marketing/sales/advertising/ insurance/ mental health. There are a decent number of jobs here, so im not too worried. I konw ill have something soon.

 

[Desert Fox]

Ok...just like you said everyone has a bachelors. I still dont even understand why you care. You said you were done arguing 22 posts back. Im still waiting for you to explain all of my bad choices that ive allegedly made...

Your'e right I don't care about your life enuogh to be your Dr. Phil. Just because I roast on you for how deluded you are doesn't mean I care. It takes like 30-40 seconds for me to type this **** and then I'm off on my way. The situation you're in right now is a testament to how you've fvcked up your life, do I relaly need to point that out for you? Here, go read your first post, how sad and pathetic it is. How filled it is with denial. Fvckin sad, go get a life you loser.

 

[Credos]

It's funny all this flaming at each other on this thread.

Anyhow, beside all this flaming I feel there's some truth after all and that's why I'm gonna post in here.

I'm finishing my bachelor "mechanical design" in belgium (quite/fully equal to american degrees). Next year I'm getting my engeniering degree (master) in "Electromechanics". There is a MAJOR lack of people in the thing I'm studying.

I'm already enrolled for 2 coarses, which would make my next year much easier. It does give me two exams now, but considering I only have to defend my "final paper" made during my 3 months internship, I thought it was the right move.

Anyhow, during this engeniering master, you must pick an extra option... I have so much doubt, at the moment I'm very intrested in company reformation (restructurizing companies to make more money by spending less), so I would take my extra option management.

The other options are:
-dredging -> Alot of cash, but no social life
-designing -> intresting and fun, but not what I wanna do for life
-electricity -> NO
-Mechanics -> I'm into engines, and the next step is research on turbines, doable considering my uncle is a pilot and has the coarses with information on turbines... Would love to do this, but I don't wanna grab to high to then crash and burn, also don't know if I wanna stay in that bussiness for life
(-management - don't really know what opertunaties this would actually bring... rather do a Master to master to economics)

I did my internship about hydraulics: "excavator crawler" machines.

Any thoughts on how my choises were etc? I have alot of doubt of what I wanna do later, but the choises have to be made..... Dredging is a very profitable bussiness but then I'm outta the country (I would love that, but its for a year minimum, so goodbye social life)...

I might also do this dredging, then do a internship with my dads company for a year, my dad is projectleader in his company which is mainly directing everything. His company is like dredgings, with the experiance I might really be able to get a good cheque afterwards! Then the plan is: save money, then start in real-estate!

 

[oakraiderz2]

Your'e right I don't care about your life enuogh to be your Dr. Phil. Just because I roast on you for how deluded you are doesn't mean I care. It takes like 30-40 seconds for me to type this **** and then I'm off on my way. The situation you're in right now is a testament to how you've fvcked up your life, do I relaly need to point that out for you? Here, go read your first post, how sad and pathetic it is. How filled it is with denial. Fvckin sad, go get a life you loser.

Haha, ok. Well, since you still feel the need to resort to name calling shows theres something deeper than the fact that i graduated that bothers you. All this is is entertainment to me. Hahaha, ive f*cked up my life? Haha, you mean i f*cked up my life when i was 18 and made this decision. So according to the chem major, all psych majors who dont go to grad school f*cked up their lives. Haha, btw im not in a bad situation. Im in the same situation as the majority of recent grads. I posted evidence as well, so chill. Dont be so emotional, you seem REALLY REALLY PISSED at me for graduating, which is f*ckin weird. I keep replying because youre a funny funny little boy and i think its funny how i push your buttons.....hahahahahahahahahaha!

Any thoughts on how my choises were etc? I have alot of doubt of what I wanna do later, but the choises have to be made..... Dredging is a very profitable bussiness but then I'm outta the country (I would love that, but its for a year minimum, so goodbye social life)...

Engineering seems hard a hell to me. I cant stand doing so much math for one problem and having only one possible solution. Do whatever is most appealing and doesnt cause your life to become unbalanced (as far as social life, making money, etc). At least you have some ideas and directions to go. Just take some more time and figure out which one would be best for you. And yes, the flaming is very silly.