I get numbers but..

[wispters]

SO i've been doing pretty good lately of overcoming approaching, usually at bars, or with a few beers, but also have been doing them at random places. I've been getting on average 2-3 numbers a weekend(could be better, but better then nothing). After i get their numbers, and wait a few days and call i usually try to set up something, and most times get the run around. Im doing blah blah blah, or some bs. Any advice on the phone aspect of the game?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Ever consider bypassing getting a number and just getting the date straight away? Isn't that the objective anyway?

 

[wispters]

point taken, should i try to set up the date right their and then though? sometimes i see that being a challenge, Say shes with her friends, working, etc.

 

[The Sperminator]

What is the interest level when they give you their number?
What do you usually say on the phone?
Can you give an example of a conversation you had on a phone with a girl you were trying to ask out?

It's either that they weren't that interested in you in the face place and just gave their number out to be polite or you suck at your on phone game.

 

[Obsidian]

sperminator is right on, I think

If you're looking for a relationship, be glad that these girls are giving you the opportunity to NEXT them so early on. Getting the phone # and making them WAIT for you to call is supposed to weed out the low-interest girls.

Alternatively, if you don't really care about their interest level, you could do what Francisco suggested. It's a little harder to do, tho, because then you have to come up with something to do right on the spot. And on top of that, it doesn't give you any chance to gage their IL (as using Anti-Dump's Machine would).

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

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Alternatively, if you don't really care about their interest level, you could do what Francisco suggested. It's a little harder to do, tho, because then you have to come up with something to do right on the spot. And on top of that, it doesn't give you any chance to gage their IL (as using Anti-Dump's Machine would).

Francisco: We should get together sometime for coffee, there's this little shop near the university that I enjoy. I plan on going there either Tuesday or Thursday, you should come.

HB: That sounds like fun, what time would you be there.

Francisco: Some time early evening, I'd have to check.

HB: Here's my number, let me know when you'll be there and we'll meet up.




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You've cut to the chase with a plan and gauged her IL. If she wasn't interested she'd decline, if she was busy but interested she'd suggest another day. Plus you end up getting her contact information, sometimes without even asking. So she's agreed to meet you and she's given you her contact info. How much more of a gauge of her IL do you need?

 

[wispters]

thanks guys, all good responses so far, yeah sperminator its not my face game, im a little short but everyone for the most part say im a good looking guy(not to me) a little short but that doesn't stop me. I always get the chicks laughing pretty good, sometimes an almost constant laugh.. im wondering if it's 2 much...
but i think its one good way to gauge Interest level. But keep in mind i do get some dates out of the numbers i call, but not as many as i would like

Im thinking that it is my phone game that is lagging, i usually wait 2-3 days to call, just say hi what you doing, blah blah, try to bring up some small talk about what happened that night or something, and maybe ask a couple questions about herself, trying to get her more comfortable, then i'll say "hey we should go
out sometime" something along them lines, then say bye it was nice talking to you, etc. ALL A ROUGH EXAMPLE.

 

[lYlasTer]

Go with Franciso's example where you already establish a date.

Something I'd like to add is the idea of an "instant" date. Whenever I go clubbing my friends and I always go get some food right after the club. When I talk to a girl in the club and get her number, I usually invite her along to get something to eat. She'll spend some more time with you, you can increase her attraction, and there's less chance she'll flake on your call.

 

[Sexual]

Francisco d'Anconia made it as simple as it gets. I get that many numbers during a weekend, but most of them usually aren't worth it because of my lack of funds and patience. If you have the desperation (or balls rather), go nonstop with pulling numbers. Statistics will get you laid much quicker. I prefer clubs or house parties, pulling chicks with bros.

 

[wispters]

thanks guys for all the advice, im going to have to try that next time, think asking them to come over my house to have a couple drinks after the night is too much? and how many potential HB's typically do you guys go up to say in a night out? just trying to get a rough idea if im behind the curve in my approach numbers. What usually happens to me i start talking to a chick way too long in one night... almost feels like it would be better if i just talked to them for a little and keep moving on and play the number game. What do you guys think?

 

[Boschy]

You need to do more reading about DJ and PUA theory. All of your questions are answered in the Tips and Articles section.

For me, learning pick-up seems to be as much work as getting a diploma. This is not a bad thing given the, err, rewards But you should really try to do some of your own reading before asking basic questions here on the forums.

 

[Obsidian]

Something I'd like to add is the idea of an "instant" date. Whenever I go clubbing my friends and I always go get some food right after the club. When I talk to a girl in the club and get her number, I usually invite her along to get something to eat.

this is actually a good idea. Any time you change venue, you've put her in the dating mindframe. I should start doing it more.

 

[The Sperminator]

Don't be too funny. I know this for a fact. When you are too funny girls think of you as a friend no idea why but it's true. Secondly how about changing up your ways. What I do is call the next day. I know people say you should wait a few days to get them more interested but I'm telling you most of the time that isn't true. Girls usually lose interest if you wait too long. If the girl is attractive she probably has tons of guys going after her and she might forget about you or lose interest if you don't go for it right away. You should also keep it really short. Just be like hey remember me from blah blah blah combined with a joke. Then just say something like so I was just calliing to see if you wanted to go to blah blah and blah with me. Well this is the way I do it and it usually works.

 

[wispters]

nice sperminator thanks for the advice bro