I fvck girls, but can't keep any good ones

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floydb25 said:
Yea... you already know the facts... just gotta accept it. Hot girls are all about the chase and challenge, wanting what they can't have, major prize mentality, short-lived infatuation, the new shiny, etc. They change their minds constantly, can never be satisfied, objectify people, are ALL about the emotional rush... you know the drill, man. This is who they are, and how they operate.

Girls you lust over and crush on are not going to be the quality ones you shack up with. Just the way it is. They have all the attractive qualities, but nothing else. Nobody lasts with them - not just you. Even being around decent / cute girls shows a WORLD of difference between the two. Hot girls are shallow and retarded (and vain and conceited), and all about the "game". It's their whole life. They play people like nothing else - because they can. Even when they pursue you, or complain about whatever - it's all about THEM... just like everything else in the world. Just don't take them seriously, or assume them to be quality because they're "into" you for a time. They're into the chase and challenge and getting what they "want" - not you. It's never about YOU.

You may not like it, but that's the way it is.
Damn. have you ever encountered average or even below average girls who are just the same or worse?
 

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Thanks for your insight. I think that because I am a bit shallow I tend to go for the hot girls that every guy wants. I am able to get these girls with ease, but it is mostly due to my knowledge and practice of game.

I think I am a little delusional in thinking that I can keep one of these girls interested for a long period of time, as long as I keep my game tight. What it really comes down to is that if I want to get into a relationship I would have to "settle" and I am not willing to settle when I know I can find hotter.

Most guys, including myself, would complain, "Where are the quality girls that turn me on mentally and physically?" I guess if I keep building my tower (hobbies, career, gym etc) and get more experience I will be able to come across one of these girls- and know what to do.
Word... it's not as glorious as it sounds once you land these hot girls. And it works both ways, 'cause they do the SAME thing with men. They also have the same mentality as you. This is why it's so hard to keep them - and you. Never forget that like attracts like. They're just as independent, "high class", high maintenance, difficult, shallow, etc. That's why a lot of "hot" people don't shack up together, or last long with each other, and can't stand each other. Just because they're attracted to you doesn't change who they are.

I doubt there's anything you're doing "wrong" - it's just the way they are, who they attract, and are attracted to. This you REALLY need to realize, or you'll be "improving" yourself forever - only to run into the same problems. Because, it's only this type who makes you think this way, and makes things so difficult. Don't think there's something you're doing wrong, and thereby pedestalizing these high class bishes. They only think they're special, and make you think that way, as well. They're no prize to be won. There isn't a secret ingredient to keeping them. Hell, most of them don't even want to be caught - and aren't worth a **** when they are. Definitely eliminate the chase / prize mindset you have going on.

It also sounds like you're looking for someone perfect, which doesn't exist. Learned that one the hard way, too. As well, just because you CAN - doesn't mean you SHOULD. I don't know if lowering your standards is necessarily settling, though... especially once you deal with enough of this ****. ****, I'm at the point where I can't STAND the kind of girls you're going after. Girls I talked to also said they were done with pretty boys, bad boys, players, etc. There's just nothing there with 'em. (Not that these girls were any better; see above).

But this goes to show that guys do the same thing with bad girls, sluts, hotties, etc - then settle with decent ones later (while still banging hot sluts). It's all the same, though it's not planned out this way - contrary to what a lot of men think.

You're still young, so all of this is pretty normal. ****, I did the same thing.
 

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OldGoat said:
Damn. have you ever encountered average or even below average girls who are just the same or worse?
Yea, and to what Pair said: it's just more prelevant, consistent, and extreme with hotties. By no means is it limited to them. Just like how super hot girls tend to be more narcissistic or straight-out *****es. It's more balanced with cuties, or regular attractive girls. They're a little more nicer, down to earth, etc. Not all flamboyaunt and retarded. It also depends on the type of girls. Notties and pretenders definitely exist out there. But they're unattractive AND worthless, so who cares.:crackup:
 

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Hey Sofomore, have you ever traveled to a different continent? If not, might want to think of a trip somewhere to broaden your horizons
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
I've seen HB3s spinning 3-4 guys at once. I WISH it was limited to hot girls. The main difference is that you can actually dumpster dive with lower value chicks, making them less likely to leave you, as opposed to hotter chicks at your level or higher. Im a 7.5 and 7s fvck me over just as bad as the 8s.
One of you guys was once talking about how promiscuous women are not able to bond with the men they're dating. These days, hot or not, all women can easily get guys to sleep with them, so very few of them have the ability to bond.
 

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floydb25 said:
Word... it's not as glorious as it sounds once you land these hot girls. And it works both ways, 'cause they do the SAME thing with men. They also have the same mentality as you. This is why it's so hard to keep them - and you. Never forget that like attracts like. They're just as independent, "high class", high maintenance, difficult, shallow, etc. That's why a lot of "hot" people don't shack up together, or last long with each other, and can't stand each other. Just because they're attracted to you doesn't change who they are.

I doubt there's anything you're doing "wrong" - it's just the way they are, who they attract, and are attracted to. This you REALLY need to realize, or you'll be "improving" yourself forever - only to run into the same problems. Because, it's only this type who makes you think this way, and makes things so difficult. Don't think there's something you're doing wrong, and thereby pedestalizing these high class bishes. They only think they're special, and make you think that way, as well. They're no prize to be won. There isn't a secret ingredient to keeping them. Hell, most of them don't even want to be caught - and aren't worth a **** when they are. Definitely eliminate the chase / prize mindset you have going on.

It also sounds like you're looking for someone perfect, which doesn't exist. Learned that one the hard way, too. As well, just because you CAN - doesn't mean you SHOULD. I don't know if lowering your standards is necessarily settling, though... especially once you deal with enough of this ****. ****, I'm at the point where I can't STAND the kind of girls you're going after. Girls I talked to also said they were done with pretty boys, bad boys, players, etc. There's just nothing there with 'em. (Not that these girls were any better; see above).

But this goes to show that guys do the same thing with bad girls, sluts, hotties, etc - then settle with decent ones later (while still banging hot sluts). It's all the same, though it's not planned out this way - contrary to what a lot of men think.

You're still young, so all of this is pretty normal. ****, I did the same thing.
Thanks again. You hit the nail on the head. Attraction isn't a choice, and I go for the girls that are not meant to be in LTR. Once I start having sex with them for months I start to want a relationship. It's hard to check myself but its time to look at these girls for what they really are- a ONS or FWB.
 

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Thanks again. You hit the nail on the head. Attraction isn't a choice, and I go for the girls that are not meant to be in LTR. Once I start having sex with them for months I start to want a relationship. It's hard to check myself but its time to look at these girls for what they really are- a ONS or FWB.
Yea... I used to be JUST like you. I wanted the exciting, high class, provocative hottie who was also LTR material and had a good heart. It wasn't hard to attract them, either, because I was a stuck up ******* who didn't approach. Then again, so were they. Their attraction was at 100% when they were in chase mode, and I acted like I didn't care, wasn't phased by their beauty, etc.

Well, it never worked out. They had no depth, class, maturity, respect... they were just hot and exciting... and that's all they were interested in, as well. ALL they ever talked about was retarded ****, and all they were interested in was sex and body parts, and "hot and exciting". I mean, everything about them was just shallow, vain, and idiotic. Even the way they spoke, acted, looked... just dumb hot bishes. They weren't very "nice", either... quite snobby and stuck up. They only ACTED super sweet when they wanted something - like your interest. They also had this high class aura about them, because everyone wanted them - and they knew it. Naturally, they were addicted to the chase, people who didn't want them, etc. They also manipulated / used men, and played games like no other. Waste of space, really. You can't communicate, speak sense to, or compromise with a shallow retard who's all about the "high class prize skittles". Nothing lasts with them, either, 'cause they have a severe "me me me I I I want want want" mentality. No patience or stability.

Gotta be carerful not to confuse lust with quality, or start assuming that there's more depth than you see, or that anyone is "pretending" to be something they're not, or that you can change or "evolve" them. If she's hot, seductive, high class, shallow, retarded - that's who they are.
 

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Sofomore said:
Thanks for your insight. I think that because I am a bit shallow I tend to go for the hot girls that every guy wants. I am able to get these girls with ease, but it is mostly due to my knowledge and practice of game.

I think I am a little delusional in thinking that I can keep one of these girls interested for a long period of time, as long as I keep my game tight. What it really comes down to is that if I want to get into a relationship I would have to "settle" and I am not willing to settle when I know I can find hotter.

Most guys, including myself, would complain, "Where are the quality girls that turn me on mentally and physically?" I guess if I keep building my tower (hobbies, career, gym etc) and get more experience I will be able to come across one of these girls- and know what to do.
Like I said in my original response to this thread --> Why the f*ck do you want to "keep them"?

If you can easily attract hot girls.. then you have it made. I'm good at getting hot girls too.. that's why I don't give a sh!t about keeping one. What for?

Why do you want oneitis? Why do you want ONE woman to pedestalize when you can have many? Makes no sense to me. :crazy:

Sofomore said:
Thanks again. You hit the nail on the head. Attraction isn't a choice, and I go for the girls that are not meant to be in LTR. Once I start having sex with them for months I start to want a relationship. It's hard to check myself but its time to look at these girls for what they really are- a ONS or FWB.
Too many Disney movies bro. That's the problem.

Open your eyes.. stop thinking with your feelings.
 

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PlayHer Man said:
Like I said in my original response to this thread --> Why the f*ck do you want to "keep them"?

If you can easily attract hot girls.. then you have it made. I'm good at getting hot girls too.. that's why I don't give a sh!t about keeping one. What for?

Why do you want oneitis? Why do you want ONE woman to pedestalize when you can have many? Makes no sense to me. :crazy:



Too many Disney movies bro. That's the problem.

Open your eyes.. stop thinking with your feelings.
Lol you cant fault the guy for wanting more than just fvcking a bunch of vapid hot chicks. It doesn't have everything to do with Disney and social conditioning either. Some men actually like bonding emotionally with wonen and its perfectly natural. Hell he doesn't even have to go the "beta monagamous bliss route." He can have an open relationship with one chick who he loves and bonds with emotionally while still fvcking all the vapid hot chicks.
 

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Lol you cant fault the guy for wanting more than just fvcking a bunch of vapid hot chicks. It doesn't have everything to do with Disney and social conditioning either. Some men actually like bonding emotionally with wonen and its perfectly natural. Hell he doesn't even have to go the "beta monagamous bliss route." He can have an open relationship with one chick who he loves and bonds with emotionally while still fvcking all the vapid hot chicks.
Once again we are thinking with emotions --> Can't blame a guy for WANTING to bond with one woman.

Right.. also can't blame a guy for WANTING 20 Million dollars.

There are lots of things we WANT in life. That's not the issue.. its about whats good for you and REALISTIC in 2013. Modern women are not loyal and most of them care more about money, their career and having kids than "bonding" with a man.

The person who cares the least always has the power. In modern times.. women care the least. If you care more about bonding than the woman does.. you're a chump. Simple as that.

I don't give a sh!t about bonding with women and I've never eaten so well. Women love me for that very reason. They fall hard and fast for me --> But I'm smart enough to know "easy come easy go". I refuse to get sucked into their web. This keeps them on an emotional leash.. serving me, sexing me, tolerating my sh!t. Ultimately I respect them LESS for it.. but enjoy it at the same time. :)

Sound familiar? Sound a lot like the bruised beta fags on this site? Yeah..
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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The person who cares the least always has the power. In modern times.. women care the least. If you care more about bonding than the woman does.. you're a chump. Simple as that.
The saying is "who cares the least has the power". It's not "who doesn't care at all". But I agree that relationships work best when the woman cares more.
 

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You like a slut woman, she too keeps f'cking men all the time, but all the good men just keep f'cking her and don't want anything serious. :crackup:


Women that do get a good man tend to be good and not sluts.
 

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backseatjuan said:
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You like a slut woman, she too keeps f'cking men all the time, but all the good men just keep f'cking her and don't want anything serious. :crackup:


Women that do get a good man tend to be good and not sluts.
Yea it seems "like attracts like". And because I sleep around I attract girls that sleep around. I ain't slowin down though so I guess I'll have to get used to banging dumb slvts until I come across a quality girl.
 

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There are lots of things we WANT in life. That's not the issue.. its about whats good for you and REALISTIC in 2013. Modern women are not loyal and most of them care more about money, their career and having kids than "bonding" with a man.
This goes back to my "Saving Hoes" thread where I said that dudes are chasing after broken women. Yes there are plenty of women today who don't care about bonding with men. They're all damaged and a man shouldn't expect anything more than being fvck buddies with them. You clearly couldn't care less about bonding with women and that's fine. Not every man is like that though and we shouldn't encourage them to pursue a path that they aren't built for.

The person who cares the least always has the power. In modern times.. women care the least. If you care more about bonding than the woman does.. you're a chump. Simple as that.
Yes this is true but a more accurate statement would be "the person who acts as if they care the least always has the power." The OP is caring more about being in a relationship than the girls he's fvcking. However, if he behaves like a man, a man knows how to control his emotions, he'll treat these women merely as fvck buddies and when a worthy one comes along he'll treat her as such.

I don't give a sh!t about bonding with women and I've never eaten so well. Women love me for that very reason. They fall hard and fast for me --> But I'm smart enough to know "easy come easy go". I refuse to get sucked into their web. This keeps them on an emotional leash.. serving me, sexing me, tolerating my sh!t. Ultimately I respect them LESS for it.. but enjoy it at the same time.

Sound familiar? Sound a lot like the bruised beta fags on this site? Yeah..
Hah and I commend you for this. OP you should do the same thing. Don't put any effort into forming relationships with these or any woman. However when a worthy one does come along, one that embodies the traits that were discussed here (http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207588), then she'll be the one pushing for something more and it'll be up to you whether you want to form a relationship with her or not.
 

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PlayHer Man said:
Like I said in my original response to this thread --> Why the f*ck do you want to "keep them"?

If you can easily attract hot girls.. then you have it made. I'm good at getting hot girls too.. that's why I don't give a sh!t about keeping one. What for?

Why do you want oneitis? Why do you want ONE woman to pedestalize when you can have many? Makes no sense to me. :crazy:



Too many Disney movies bro. That's the problem.

Open your eyes.. stop thinking with your feelings.
Hey man it's just a simple different take on women. You love banging them and disregarding them. I like banging them and getting to know them as a human being rather than a sex object. I find my life more fulfilling if I get to know the girls in my life. When I go on a streak of sleeping with women and not caring AT ALL about them I feel soul-less. Not from societal conditioning, I truly feel empty inside. Call it wishy-washy "beta fag" mentality, but this is how I LIVE life.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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Hey man it's just a simple different take on women. You love banging them and disregarding them. I like banging them and getting to know them as a human being rather than a sex object. I find my life more fulfilling if I get to know the girls in my life. When I go on a streak of sleeping with women and not caring AT ALL about them I feel soul-less. Not from societal conditioning, I truly feel empty inside. Call it wishy-washy "beta fag" mentality, but this is how I LIVE life.
If you need to bond with a woman to feel emotionally healthy.. that is a serious issue you should fix ASAP.

Societal conditioning or not.. its a form for co-dependence.
 

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If you need to bond with a woman to feel emotionally healthy.. that is a serious issue you should fix ASAP.

Societal conditioning or not.. its a form for co-dependence.
Is it not human nature to want to bond with a women?
 

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Is it not human nature to want to bond with a women?
I can see from a women's point of view why she'd require a man to be complete (being the weaker sex, insecure, wages, general hands-on tasks ect...). But a man should always be able to look after himself and easily be able to do all the tasks what women do (how hard is washing up and ironing ;) ) By saying you 'need' something to complete your life is like admitting your insecure and not totally happy with life in my eyes. Start with YOURSELF, and look at women as a bit of fun. If you're not truly happy with life then you'll have no hope with a women anyway... It's all a mind set...
 

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Is it not human nature to want to bond with a women?
It may be the word "need" that's setting PlayHer Man off. To some extent, we're talking semantics here. But I'm curious how people would view the following statements in comparison?

1. If you need to have sex with women to feel emotionally healthy.. that is a serious issue you should fix ASAP.

2. If you need to bond with people to feel emotionally healthy.. that is a serious issue you should fix ASAP.
 

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SamTheHobit said:
Is it not human nature to want to bond with a women?
It really isn't.

But its human nature to want to fill voids of any kind. Once the need for food, water, shelter and safely are taken care of.. people start to become faggots and get into all this "trying to be happy" business.

The homeless guy on the street is more worried about food than bonding with a woman. The guy in the military fighting in Afghanistan is more worried about not getting his head blown off than bonding with a woman.

See where I'm going with this?

Men who desperately want to bond with a woman have too much time on their hands and nothing important to worry about. Simple as that.

Human nature is wanting to f*ck a hot girl when you see one. :up:
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

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