I feel like my attitude is preventing a lot of success

Brighty

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I've always been a nice guy, and even though over the past three years I've changed into more of the "azzhole" bit (trying to find the perfect balance), and even though I may make a good first impression my nice guy attitude still subtly shows through. Well, maybe to help clarify, by nice guy I mean like "I don't want to stir the waters" or something like that. I've lost all of my nice guy and ch0de tendancies, and I can be a d!ck to people I don't like and the right kind of d!ck to people I do like (a lot of girls playfully call me an azzhole), so its not like I'm not some push over. But at the same time, its like I really am when it comes down to escalating things with women. Its almost as if I'm bi-polar in the sense that I want to live in abundance like a lot of people on this forum do, but at the same time I want a solid relationship and not just hit it and quit it.

Let me see if I can explain with some examples.

For instance, I don't want to make a girl feel uncomfortable (like the thought of me going up to a girl and grinding on her just doesn't sit well with me because I'm worried about how awkward it might be even though I want to do it) or feel awkward (which makes me shy away with being more bold in my actions), I'll go out of my way to avoid making situations awkward, I never take that "either my way or the high way" stance, if I feel like I'm unwanted at a party but there's a girl there who I like and who likes me I'll avoid making the move on her as to not upset everyone else, and the examples go on and on. There's even been a few times where me and a girl have genuinely liked each other and I've neglected to pursue her because I don't want to "mess it up". It's like I'm just an observer in my life, that I try to focus just not stirring the waters or making a splash all the time and as a result I get nothing that I want.

It's like I try to please everyone but in the end I'm not personally happy. I have gotten and lost so many hot girls (one of them was considered the "golden girl" of my entire school) because of this kind of "please-all" attitude and before I go off to college I want to try to kick this habit as best as I can.

How can I desensitize myself and become less concerned with the well-being of everyone else and preserving their mood and become more self focused on me? Because its definitely getting to the point where its detrimental to my confidence and inner game. For lack of a better term, how can I just not give a ****?



EDIT: I just realized that this post marks the three year anniversary to the day that I've been apart of this community. Its interesting to look back on all of the ups and downs I've had and how I've utilized this place. And while I've had some success thanks to this forum, its interesting how after all of this experience I can finally put into words the problem that originally brought me to this site and has plagued my game for all this time. A lot of the problems I've had with women over my high school career really all relate back to this.
 

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Two things..don't worry they are relevant.

1.) You are making the same mistake I made when I first read up on this stuff....its a MISTAKE to find a "balance" between the "imbedded nice guy" and the "ässhole who gets the girls" A COMPLETE MISTAKE.

Instead, START LOOKING OUT FOR NUMBER ONE. Do things that are IN YOUR BEST INTEREST, and women will find that attractive, don't worry.

if its in your best interest to skip all the fvcking games and just start grinding up on a girl, do it. you may just well find that its in that girl's best interests too.

2.) To not give a fvck, you have to start by not giving a fvck about not giving a fvck. It sounds silly but its true. Some people may frown upon this but - smoke a little bit of weed. Just once. With your friends. I guarantee you on your night there WILL be a set back and you will think "no big deal."

Capture that feeling. It's not just an active thought of you telling yourself "I don't care" its a genuine "who gives a shït"

worked for me it might work for you too.

Alternatively, in the next couple of times you go out, actively look out for yourself and yourself only. If a girl asks for a ride home, tell her flat out no. If your boy wants you to wingman for him, take the hot girl. You get what im saying....
 

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In my case it's more like I case so little that I don't bother to put myself out there. The attention I get from women is enough for me. This won't get me laid but at the same time I don't care, and I'm feeling someday I'm gonna regret how careless I was. :p
But lots of people would die to be as free from neediness as me, so I'm not sure if I should change or revel in my awesomeness.
 

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Thanks for the replies, but I'd be comfortable if a few more people gave their two cents on this problem.

What you're saying about the smoking weed thing sort of makes sense, I do smoke occasionally with my friends anyway. So just capture that "eh" feeling next time and hold onto it? Seems a little difficult.
 

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i smoke weed everyday and
Not giving a fVck about sh!t always helped me...when im out with my dudes we dont give a **** if we bag a b!tch or not,,who cares...we jus out to fvck around and have a good time...i dont really care what i say to a chick it may be innapropriate or whatever..i just dont care..about ****
 

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Man I was exactly like you. So listen up. Go to the DJ BIBLE and read the article about JERKS VS NICE GUYS that POOK wrote. Its a tad bit lengthy but i am sure you will find your answer there. If you have time read all the articles there. Are of extreme help. Your psyche will undergo amazing changes.
 

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Where is the DJ Bible????
 

Brighty

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Willis said:
i smoke weed everyday and
Not giving a fVck about sh!t always helped me...when im out with my dudes we dont give a **** if we bag a b!tch or not,,who cares...we jus out to fvck around and have a good time...i dont really care what i say to a chick it may be innapropriate or whatever..i just dont care..about ****

So I casually smoke some herb over the summer normally, and last time I did I remembered this thread and I tried to harness that "oh well, dont give a ****" feeling and hang onto that even when I'm not high and I've seen some good results with it.
 

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Brighty said:
I've always been a nice guy, and even though over the past three years I've changed into more of the "azzhole" bit (trying to find the perfect balance), and even though I may make a good first impression my nice guy attitude still subtly shows through. Well, maybe to help clarify, by nice guy I mean like "I don't want to stir the waters" or something like that. I've lost all of my nice guy and ch0de tendancies, and I can be a d!ck to people I don't like and the right kind of d!ck to people I do like (a lot of girls playfully call me an azzhole), so its not like I'm not some push over. But at the same time, its like I really am when it comes down to escalating things with women. Its almost as if I'm bi-polar in the sense that I want to live in abundance like a lot of people on this forum do, but at the same time I want a solid relationship and not just hit it and quit it.

Let me see if I can explain with some examples.

For instance, I don't want to make a girl feel uncomfortable (like the thought of me going up to a girl and grinding on her just doesn't sit well with me because I'm worried about how awkward it might be even though I want to do it) or feel awkward (which makes me shy away with being more bold in my actions), I'll go out of my way to avoid making situations awkward, I never take that "either my way or the high way" stance, if I feel like I'm unwanted at a party but there's a girl there who I like and who likes me I'll avoid making the move on her as to not upset everyone else, and the examples go on and on. There's even been a few times where me and a girl have genuinely liked each other and I've neglected to pursue her because I don't want to "mess it up". It's like I'm just an observer in my life, that I try to focus just not stirring the waters or making a splash all the time and as a result I get nothing that I want.

It's like I try to please everyone but in the end I'm not personally happy. I have gotten and lost so many hot girls (one of them was considered the "golden girl" of my entire school) because of this kind of "please-all" attitude and before I go off to college I want to try to kick this habit as best as I can.

How can I desensitize myself and become less concerned with the well-being of everyone else and preserving their mood and become more self focused on me? Because its definitely getting to the point where its detrimental to my confidence and inner game. For lack of a better term, how can I just not give a ****?



EDIT: I just realized that this post marks the three year anniversary to the day that I've been apart of this community. Its interesting to look back on all of the ups and downs I've had and how I've utilized this place. And while I've had some success thanks to this forum, its interesting how after all of this experience I can finally put into words the problem that originally brought me to this site and has plagued my game for all this time. A lot of the problems I've had with women over my high school career really all relate back to this.
Long term, I think you have to be yourself around women. Not nice guy, jerk, azzhole, c&f, which one am I going to do today.

You need to be in a more natural male state, that was the answer to my problems, trying to find a perfect balance. Its not Colin Farrell trying to flip everyone off or being an azzhole.

The problem with the "nice guy" paradigm, is that you accept anything. Its like you're a factory worker rubber stamping anything that comes down your assembly line. You'll say yes to anything, ready to please. There's no energy, or very little.

Natural male state is more selective. You have standards in your own life, and it extends to your outdoor life. You dont break it, why would you.

The difference is....azzhole, c&f, not giving a sh*t, it's something you read about, its something on a piece of paper, how do I get that? What can I say to be a d*ck?

Natural male state, you're paying attention to your own internal horniness, and what your c*ck is telling you to do. It comes off as more spontaneous, more congruent. You get a much different back and forth between a guy and girl in that state, vs something you have to think about, like, am I making her uncomfortable.

Women have a built in protection mechanism against guys. Its like the porcupine with a 1,000 needles on its back protecting it against predators. Women have the same thing. A lot of this stuff will just bounce right off a girl. The girl at the party, or the girl you want to grind, its bounces off them. They dont need to be pleased all the time 100% for their panties to drop.
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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