I feel bad for a lot of you guys.

[confusedstate]

Sex (at least without someone you like) isn't that good...yet guys on here make it a life's quest to break Wilt Chamberlain's record...and in the process, put up with a lot of bs and drama and then complain about it. I honestly think it's just rebelling in most cases "Oh a girl hurt me, so I'll take it out on other women" or "Relationships are for losers...I'm going to be "cool" and sleep with a lot of women."

You have guys on this site that are virgins and think it's some kind of problem...just because of what they hear about sex.

It's amazing, when your sex drive is low, or at a managable level...how you see the world. Women that you'd usually masturbate to or try to get in bed mean nothing to you because you see them for who they really are...not just their bodies and the status that comes with getting a girl like them.

The only women that interest me are women that I'd actually want to date (combination of looks and personality.) And I'm not in denial...I know women aren't angels, even quality women...and that you have to watch your back...but having a solid relationship with someone you get along with who also looks good is much more fulfilling (Speaking from experience) than having sex with some girl just because "she looks good naked and is hot."

Not only is recreational sex not that good...it usually comes with A LOT of drama...women growing attached, stalking you after...last minute resistance and having to game your way into her pants...also putting up with their crappy personalities. Not to mention, from a few experiences of mine, and those of guys I know, the "hot" girls just lay there in bed because they're used to not having to do any work and let their looks do the talking. The cute funny 7/8 is much better in bed and doesn't act all stuck-up about it.

I realize I'm not going to change anyone's mind...especially those that are on the faux, psuedo-seducer road and have no intention of leaving that road...but for those of you who are inexperienced and buy into the "player" hype...these guys are just deep down insecure and trying to fill a void in their life by using a lot of women. That's why you see guys on here that are 50 and single and still trying to chase around 20 year old women.

99 percent of the problems, especially on the main board, would be solved if the guy thought with their right head instead of the wrong one.

 

[runner83]

Another post from some guy talking about how s*x isn't that great, to console himself for the fact that he can't get laid?....

yawn. :yawn:

I actually think sex is pretty good myself, but agree that you shouldn't have to put up with sh*t to get it.

 

[confusedstate]

I've probably had more sex than you buddy...and I never said sex is bad...I said that with someone you like, it's much better. It's AFC to chase down tail and put up with BS just for the end game. Sex in and of itself (meaning you don't like the girl...she isn't that good in bed...has a sh1t personality...you had to talk her into having sex)...masturbation is better than that.

 

[YAboi]

Your original post is excellent confusedstate +1 rep

 

[highconscienceness]

Heh, I'm not looking for sex! :crackup:

I had sex twice in my life that I can talk about. Both times with a hooker. With first one I didn't enjoy it. With second one she came and I didn't, but I enjoyed it anyway. I have better sex with my right hand, but I chosen to stop it once and for all.

I'm here to get my life under control, and to ultimately find a girl that loves me and that I'm happy with and marry her and let her have my 8 children.

It's not sex that attracts me to women, it's being with them. Just smelling them feels great, they smell so good. I tried smelling cologne they use, not even close to how a real woman smells.

 

[perseverance]

I've had sex several times and I can't say they were bad occasions, but it is nothing like the movies, that's for sure. I got my kicks out of these women because to make up for my lack of experience I just focused on pleasuring them and that turned me on. For sure I've had more enjoyable w*nks than I have had sex.

I enjoy flirting with women, I enjoy their touch, their softness, their company, I suppose sex is just another addition to that enjoyment, not the main event. I never set out to sleep with a woman. I set out to have fun with her, it it leads to sex then fair play, I won't turn it down.

I use women as guinea pigs at the moment. I take the lessons I learn from here and try and apply them to a real life scenario and so far I have had mixed results. I definitely think Pook's advice is by far the most full proof on here though.

I also find out that men who set out to sleep with anyone woman that is willing to spread for them as a low value male and I am not that easy, I think a woman throwing themselves at a man is the most tragic thing ever. I like a challenge, it's much more fun and the rewards are far greater. I am a high value man and I demand a high value woman.

 

[Lateralus]

We are sexual beings, but that does not mean we are all hypersexual men. I think it is all about finding a balance. And if you are a 30 year old male, who has been eager to sex since he was 14 years old but never got laid... I think that's out of balance. And for them it is a HUGE step to actually DO it, so they create numerous threads about it, post on the boards every night... They are making a big thing out of something 'normal'.

But if you experienced sex in life and aren't so curious/desperate about it anymore, there's nothing wrong to use that other part of the brain... Yeah, then you'll see sex isn't everything.

I think a great relationship with a woman that really works, and that you are very compatible with, is better that the whole ''sex thing''. But to find that out, you might want to build experience... in sex, relationships, women in general.

 

[Darko J.]

You have guys on this site that are virgins and think it's some kind of problem...just because of what they hear about sex.

This part particularly makes me furious. It's so easy to talk lightly about something you never had to worry about. You are like Donald Trump saying that you don't care about money. No, even worse. You are like a big fat American saying to a poor little African child that food isn't a big deal.

If you never had sex, it is a f*cking problem. It's like food and water: a primary need of a human being. Even worse, it's also a secondary and tertiary etc. need because it is necessary for self actualisisation (also see the pyramid of Maslow, look it up on google and get your underdevelopped brain educated).

People without sex get seriously f*cking depressed and that is an illness that isn't simply solved by just thinking positive or just not caring about it or not seeing it as a ''big deal'', for the same reason that you get seriously f*cking depressed if you get tortured in a dark prison cell every day. Because you don't have any control over the stressor.

Let me repeat that: no control over the stressor. People that don't have sex are not volunteers. They do take every action possible to help themselves, but they also fail at every action they take to help themselves. Duh, that's why they don't have sex. Depressed because of being rejected, which leads to changing oneselve for the better in order to fix the problem, which results in getting even more rejected, which results in being even more depressed.

So you see, you should just shut up because you are a close minded blind fool who doesn't understand anything beyond his own experience. You are posting here because you are a know-it-all who is boosting his ego by telling others that he knows it all.

 

[confusedstate]

It isn't a need...you won't die without it. Guys like you are future George Sodini's...putting special emphasis on something that even monkeys do.

Like someone said earlier...even when it's good...it's nothing like in the movies or in porn or whatever. If anything, it's more of a bonding experience. If it were just about dropping a nut...I can do a better job with my hand.

 

[Darko J.]

It isn't a need...you won't die without it. Guys like you are future George Sodini's...putting special emphasis on something that even monkeys do.

Like someone said earlier...even when it's good...it's nothing like in the movies or in porn or whatever. If anything, it's more of a bonding experience. If it were just about dropping a nut...I can do a better job with my hand.

You don't need a house, you won't die without it. Most houses are no good anyway. So go live on the streets for the next ten years and tell me how it feels.

You must be the new Hitler, because you really like to judge a whole group of people and feel superior.

 

[zekko]

You don't need a house, you won't die without it. Most houses are no good anyway. So go live on the streets for the next ten years and tell me how it feels.

I've got to agree with Darko here. If you're a virgin when you're 30 that probably messes with your head in ways I wouldn't even want to think about.

If you've had the experience it seems a little disingenuous to tell other people that they don't need to have that experience. You wanted it, other people want it too.

You don't need a job, you won't die without it. Most jobs are no good anyway.
The thing is, guys need jobs to have healthy self esteem. I imagine it's much the same way about getting rid of your V-card by a decent age.

 

[confusedstate]

The only reason I wanted it to begin with is because I was brainwashed by the media to think that it was something that it wasn't. Movies like Sex Drive where the guy is 18 and goes on a road trip to lose the V-card make guys like J. Darko think that it's the measure of one's manhood.

I lost mine at age 25...and if I could have done it all over, I would have just met some average looking woman online and got it over with, because I was a lot like J. Darko until I lost it.

I've had sex with 5 women, 2 of them girlfriends...the other 3 weren't bad looking at all but not the least bit satisfying...no connection, not enough attraction. The only thing that made the sex good with my exs were that I liked them and they liked me (for more than the sex) and it was a bonding experience. If you're after an orgasm...you can do better with your hand.

Yes, it's easy for me to say this having been through it...but I have no sympathy because with sites like okcupid and plentyoffish, you can find some 5/6 to lose it with and get an idea of what it's like.

 

[Darko J.]

You are hearing but not listening. You are looking at the computer screen but not reading.

I don't think losing my virginity is a measure of my manhood. I am not motivated by media to lose my virginity. I am not motivated to have sex by external factors like these. I am motivated by internal factors, like an endless stream of thoughts that is draining my energy.

I can't lose my virginity with the help of sites like OkCupid or Plentyoffish. I can't find a 4, a 3, a 2, or a 1 to lose it with and get an idea of what it's like.

 

[Iceberg]

I've had sex with 5 women, 2 of them girlfriends...the other 3 weren't bad looking at all but not the least bit satisfying...no connection, not enough attraction. The only thing that made the sex good with my exs were that I liked them and they liked me (for more than the sex) and it was a bonding experience. If you're after an orgasm...you can do better with your hand.

Let me get this straight. You've had 3 sexual partners who weren't your girlfriend, and because of those 3 encounters, you are now judging ALL non-relationship, "recreational" sexual encounters to be bad?

I've had sex with a lot more than 5 women. I've dated nice sweet girls for months who gave me bad sex. And I've met girls in one night who gave me some of the best sex of my life. You can't take something as broad as sex and make a sweeping generalization about it.

I'd be totally fine with your beliefs if you weren't so pretentious about it. You had 5 sexual partners in life, 3 of them as "recreational" and you're trying to tell us stuff like:

Not only is recreational sex not that good...it usually comes with A LOT of drama...women growing attached, stalking you after...last minute resistance and having to game your way into her pants...also putting up with their crappy personalities.

Wow. So you had 3 bad experiences with casual sex, and now you deem ALL casual to be bad/wrong? If you had 3 bad experiences with Eskimos, would you say that their entire race was bad? Silly example, but I think you get my point.

I'm slowly getting tired of casual sex because it bores me. I've done it. Lots of it, and it's getting old. Now that I know what I like, I spend time seeking out a very specific type of woman to date. But this was after years of going out on the field and learning. I didn't just take 3 experiences and form a theory based around such limited knowledge.

 

[YAboi]

This site....... ppl responding just took away the negatives from the post and refused to see the knowledge being provided. I would really be interested in what the older guys onthe forum think about this.

 

[mustfirstregister]

Another post from some guy talking about how s*x isn't that great, to console himself for the fact that he can't get laid?....

yawn. :yawn:

I actually think sex is pretty good myself, but agree that you shouldn't have to put up with sh*t to get it.

hahahahaha

 

[perseverance]

I agree that sex with no connection sort of sucks. Ever got " dont look me in the eye" or " don't get so into it" before? Ouch!

Sex without passion is like breathing with the aid of a ventilator.