I feel bad about this -

[synergy1]

ha ha, this reminds me of trying to post similar responses on another forum. It was a thread dedicated towards single guys and getting girlfriends. Most of the guys who post there are chumps/ nerds. When I post anything advocating self improvement, confidence etc, I usually get neg repped by the guys. The girls are a different story. They'll up rep me, than tell me how hot I am based on pictures from another thread. One even wanted to hang out and we eventually did when I lived in boston.

The point? Women know a winner when they see one. Men know competition when they see it and have to hate on it. Its too contradictory to their weak egos and demented worldviews. Its easier to go on hating people better than ones self rather than jumping both feet into the fire. I recall telling one kid to stop focusing on women and start working out ( I knew him from outside the forum), and he went on to tell me he didn't want to be a frat douchebag like me. He would keep on disagreeing with my point of views even though he couldn't land tail to save his life.

Just a bit of background: I used to post on bodybuilding.com and was pretty bad with women back in the day. A thread came along written by an active community member who gave out solid advice which eventually changed everything for me. I am still grateful to this day and feel that if I can offer the same advice to someone else, than it would all be worthwhile. Even if its only a small percentage of people who actually listen, its still worth it in my book.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

One of the surest indicators of an AFC-beta mindset is the automatic presumption that anything remotely critical a man would say about women, or the feminine, is by default, equated with misogyny. All a man need do is open his mouth, in the most objective way he can muster, about anything critical of the feminine and he's instantly suspect of sour grapes. He must've been burned, or is bitter and on the verge of desperation just for even a passing mention of some critical observation.

What an amazingly potent social convention this is - when a man will censor himself because of it on his own. The most successful social conventions are ones in which the subject willingly sublimates his own interests, discourages questioning it, and predisposes that person to encourage others to participate in it.

This is an old quote for me, but it's essentially the Love Shack posting policy. For every guy with the courage to post some slight, objective critique about women, there are a hundred chumps just salivating for the chance to prove their "not-like-other-guys" feminine identification schema by calling him out on his "misogyny" - all in the hopes that some anonymous girl will be attracted to him for defending her virtue. This is the essence of the matrix negative feedback loop that chumps get trapped in.

 

[jophil28]

Yea well, after you come over to the US and get some mud for your turtle, you'd better stop by my place for beers jophil.

Hey now that is also a plan and a promise.
How the bleep are you, Sarg?

 

[Kailex]

Been trying long and hard to not make a joke saying: If she's such a great woman, why does she have a match.com profile...

But... I can't come up with anything jokey/funny, so I'll just state my intent to you all about how I tried coming up with it but couldn't.

I can't see her profile from here, but I'll take your word for it Jophil.

But, I really hate those lovey AFC sites, they make me break out in hives.

 

[jophil28]

Update, fuking nice update.

Two of my newfound 'pen pvssies' are starting to play the jealousy card.
One is from Calgary and the other from the windycity.( How many miles in between, men ?)
I have been having a ton of mild C&F with both, and both have probed and asked personal questions. Both have also issued invites to me to visit and have become a little flirty in the process.
So when i casually mentioned that I have some female interest at my end they immediately replied with stories of their own male fan clubs and how various guys are approaching them, buyng them tequila shots, hanging around and getting flirty and so on..
SO I replied with some clever "agree and amplify" stuff in which I expressed an enthusiastic hope that "Enrico" wll soon appear in their lives and sweep them off their feet .
The replies to that suggestion were almost adolescent. Both reverted to a kind of gooey fluttery conversational style (as much as that is possible Online ) much like a ditzy teen would do. They both denied that they were looking for a "white knight" and were merely interested in dating casually.
Anyways, the Canadian girl is almost demending to know who and what I did last weekend and the gal fron Chicago offered to buy me a b'day present at the end of this month .
I replied that I really wanted a business class ticket from Australia to O'Hare .. ( about $7k if you check it out)

IT seems that the nature of women to play mindgames in an attempt to control the flow is universal. Fun, fun, fun !

 

[5string]

Update, fuking nice update.

Two of my newfound 'pen pvssies' are starting to play the jealousy card.
One is from Calgary and the other from the windycity.( How many miles in between, men ?)
I have been having a ton of mild C&F with both, and both have probed and asked personal questions. Both have also issued invites to me to visit and have become a little flirty in the process.
So when i casually mentioned that I have some female interest at my end they immediately replied with stories of their own male fan clubs and how various guys are approaching them, buyng them tequila shots, hanging around and getting flirty and so on..
SO I replied with some clever "agree and amplify" stuff in which I expressed an enthusiastic hope that "Enrico" wll soon appear in their lives and sweep them off their feet .
The replies to that suggestion were almost adolescent. Both reverted to a kind of gooey fluttery conversational style (as much as that is possible Online ) much like a ditzy teen would do. They both denied that they were looking for a "white knight" and were merely interested in dating casually.
Anyways, the Canadian girl is almost demending to know who and what I did last weekend and the gal fron Chicago offered to buy me a b'day present at the end of this month .
I replied that I really wanted a business class ticket from Australia to O'Hare .. ( about $7k if you check it out)

IT seems that the nature of women to play mindgames in an attempt to control the flow is universal. Fun, fun, fun !

To pull this off, you'd better have a ton of frequent flier miles brother.

 

[jophil28]

The point? Women know a winner when they see one. Men know competition when they see it and have to hate on it.

Interesting observation.
When I first posted my SS/MM type replies on that message board I was met with some hostility from the women, and a slap from a mod. The men were silent or occasionally meekly in agreement- and I mean MEEK ! One by one some of the guys repped me and a few of the women did likewise -grudgingly(their words).
Now the guys are silent again as if I have invaded their territory, or my views are disruptive or even subversive ( I am guessing at their reasons)
It has been an instructive experiment in revealing just how stuck most people are in their beliefs, especially those that do not serve them well.

More later.

 

[5string]

Hey now that is also a plan and a promise.
How the bleep are you, Sarg?

Sorry jophil. Didn't see this post. Keep us up to date. Sounds like yer havin some fun with these gals! Honing your skills eh?

As for me, I just had the trip from h*ll to Sacramento, CA on business. I'm gonna do a thread on that trip it was so bad. Dumb b*stards from the TSA ran me through the full body scanner and then sent me for "enhanced screening". :cuss:

 

[jophil28]

Been trying long and hard to not make a joke saying: If she's such a great woman, why does she have a match.com profile...

But... I can't come up with anything jokey/funny, so I'll just state my intent to you all about how I tried coming up with it but couldn't.

I can't see her profile from here, but I'll take your word for it Jophil.

But, I really hate those lovey AFC sites, they make me break out in hives.

Kailey, try this>
Log on Match and then click the Search button at the top left .
ON the next page enter 'Realitykte' in the Search Username field at bottom right.
She's still there waiting for you .

 

[amoka]

Kailey, try this>
Log on Match and then click the Search button at the top left .
ON the next page enter 'Realitykte' in the Search Username field at bottom right.
She's still there waiting for you .

You must have an account to log on match.com. Not everyone have this account.

 

[buster69]

I have an account and could not find her

 

[zekko]

I remember back in my day, when M*A*S*H was at the height of its popularity, they used to hold up Alan Alda as the man of the future and the perfect man to emulate if you wanted to get women: The sensitive feminist male.

A lot of the guys on those forums are probably just doing what the media tells them they have to do to get chicks. They don't realize they are being misinformed. Or maybe it works for them, who knows?

I don't think it's so much a differing opinion always, but the contents of the message and how it's misinterpreted. You say a man should take charge and they read it as "chain the woman to the stove." People really have no sense of middle ground. Everything's gotta be extreme.

Then there's how people usually present their "differing opinion." It seems to me on message boards the person who goes against the grain is usually pretty belligerent and goes about it with an air of superiority talking down to the little peons, and people naturally reject anything they have to say.

You're right of course, but I don't see that as a reason to kill off the thread or ban the poster.

 

[Kailex]

Kailey, try this>
Log on Match and then click the Search button at the top left .
ON the next page enter 'Realitykte' in the Search Username field at bottom right.
She's still there waiting for you .

Hence, why I couldn't come up with a one liner for "Why is she on Match?".
I would have had to explain my reasoning as "Quality women shouldn't be on online dating websites... blah blah..."

See how unfunny it is once I have to explain myself.

I would check her out, but online dating sites become a timesink for me. I start looking at one and then proceed to look at anyone else on there just to try to find what's wrong with them.

It's a terrible OCD-ism with me and online dating now.

 

[jophil28]

Due to my awesome recent efforts at promoting transPacific relations between the residents of our two countries, in particular your women and yours truly, I have an update to report.

Currently I have four of your finest specimens emailing me and becoming increasingly "friendly" .

Geez. maybe its the distance between us that encourages a kind of "challenge" - these women are getting seriously warmed up.
One attractive woman from Chicago is the most assertive of the bunch. She is a writer, small time academic and moderate feminist.

She wrote me two days ago," So when are you going to email a photo -just send one with your shirt off...."
I replied," Hmm, OK to maintain consistency with your desire for gender parity in all things, I suggest reciprocity is in order here.
Go get the Kodak, and then get your shirt off !"

I'm waiting for her reply. :cheer:

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Hahaha! Even feminist academics confirm the Tomassi doctrine:

Your bulletproof game and charming personality wont make you look any better with your shirt off.

 

[5string]

Jophil....I challenge you.

If you can get some US chick to pay 7K to fly yer azz to the states and close on her, I'll fly to Aussie and buy you dinner/drinks. FR required.

 

[jophil28]

Jophil....I challenge you.

If you can get some US chick to pay 7K to fly yer azz to the states and close on her, I'll fly to Aussie and buy you dinner/drinks. FR required.

Geez, would that include dessert ?

 

[5string]

Geez, would that include desert ?

You betcha stud boy! Just name it.

 

[Kailex]

Last night, I had an extra few minutes and decided to revisit Loveshack.

Keeping in mind what Jophil laid out on this thread, I decided to see what I could scope out. Lo and behold, I almost threw up on my keyboard in 3 different threads and proceeded to close my web browser.

After that, I decided to take a quick decontamination shower followed by a quick manly beer and watch some sports.

I'm never doing that again.

 

[zekko]

Last night, I had an extra few minutes and decided to revisit Loveshack.

Keeping in mind what Jophil laid out on this thread, I decided to see what I could scope out. Lo and behold, I almost threw up on my keyboard in 3 different threads and proceeded to close my web browser.

You know, they always talk about how AFC Loveshack is here so I finally decided to wander over there and see what the fuss was about. I only looked at about three threads but I was pretty shocked by what I read:

There was one guy who had certain characteristics he wanted out of a girl and wasn't willing to compromise. There were a number of people saying don't be a nice guy and that women like men who put them in their place. And another guy complaining about the double standard that it's okay for women to hit men but not for men to hit women.

Not much different from here. I realize I only looked at a small sample size though. And I disregarded all the posts by women. But it wasn't wall to wall wussies as I was led to believe here.