I dunno how to finish the job

PumpingIron13

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alright guys heres my problem and then heres a girl who i want bad and how my problem applies to her...you see i am very capable of being charming, making girls laugh, making them feel good and smiling, u can say that if you watched me ud think i know what im doing....but i dont. Its just my personaltiy im very social and communicate well but i have major major problems with reading girls and its even cloudier for me to read signals from chicks cuz deep down i still am afraid of rejection(been rejected a good number of times and learned from it how to play the game).

Ok well heres the girl.very beautiful junior, pretty much the hottest chick in our class, she dated a random ass senior last year and after a longgg relationship she finally broke up with him cuz he was being lame to her n whatnot.Shes definatly a relationship type of chick so shes low on girl friends and she likes it that way, she is in a sense more mature when it comes to relationships and worries about her own feelings n not what others tell her. Anyways i spent alot of time hanging out with her at work while she was with her boyfriend and shed always spill to me all the **** he puts her though and i genuinly would help her feel better and there would be other times wed just flirt and get touchy and i could feel a attraction. The good thing is i never entered a friend spot with her cuz i never let myself get to close to her as a friend or as a possible dater...so anyways time passes on i quit work and dont see her for a while and then we meet up at party in the summer where she seems so happy to find me cuz shes over hanging out with the girls (this is a sign for me cuz she only hung out with her bf before) and we basically spend the whole party hanging out together and talking getting flirty again in a playful sorta way and before the end of the party i get a hug and her number and she wants to hang out with me.

So we hang out a couple of times, we saw 2 movies, i went to her house n chilled for a bit, we went bowling and rockclimbing and i bought her ice cream plenty of times and she always had a good time. I always know the right things to say to her too and i always get responses liek aww ur to cute, or aww thats so sweet n such. We stopped hanging out as often when school started maybe a couple times a month yet she still sees me often and will come up and hug me and tell me she misses me and wants to hang out with me and i just tell her lifes been busy and such and that ill call her over the weekend which i do and we talk.Its really on and off with this chick but shes still available.

So heres whats happening in my head, i want this chick but i dunno where i am in her mind. I know shes turned down a really confident guy whose been after her all year so far. the thing is shes not like other chicks, like i said before shes more into the relationship guy and doesnt hangout with chicks at all so she has her own wierd way. When we talked over the summer i remember her telling me how uncomfortable she felt cuz one of her guy friends is liking her and that she didnt know what to do but no worries fellas it wasnt a way to tell me to back off cuz i knew who she was talking about and he really did like her and stood no chance hes a great guy though really. But anyways as i was saying that worried me a bit it made me wonder if i was a friend too or if i was more then a friend. the dude who wanned her earlier this year took her to homecoming but she didnt wanna go with him and wanned to go with someone she wanned a relation ship with as she told me over the summer but i was to preoccupied with tryin to get another girl that when i considered askin this chick she got asked by him and said yes thinkin only hed ask her. i told her i woulda asked her if he hadnt done it so early and she told me that woulda been great so i messed up there. also once i revealed to her an old relationship problem i had when i was the nice guy and i am worried that was too much but at the same time it could have not been cuz shes into that relationship romancy ****.....damn it guys u see how much goes thru my head i cant think clearly

HELP ME GUYS....i dunno where im at with her.....right now she wants to hang out again and has been texting me but i realllly dunno she has a lot of guy friends that she chills with solo and i just dunno where i stand with her or how i could finish this off, my guy friends tell me she digs me but the old reject in this aspiring don juan keeps clouding my brain:confused: :confused: :confused:
 

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ok so rite now like u said is that she hangs out wif a lot of guys solo. so my best guess is u're one of those guys. but u gotta make urself stand out hang out wif her MORE than the other guys talk to her MORE. jus w/e those guys do for her r wif her jus top it n pretty soon u'll stand out n wen u do go for it.
 

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Yeh but if i keep hanging out with her witout making it seem im interested wont she place me as a friend...thats the thing i dunno how to get trhough
 

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I don't know what you have done on your hangouts with her so i wouldn't really know her interest level. In the post you didn't mention that you kissed her so i'm assuming your lacking kino, hugs don't really mean much.

So i think you should kino escalate to try and see where you stand. Start light and then see how far you can go. Try and get the kiss. (Not when yall are about to leave) IF you want you can also do some compliance tests.

Since I really don't know much about where yall both stand from the hangouts yall head you can decide if these will be helpful.

You should quailfy her a bit and also as you are building up kino escalation and there is alot of sexual tension in the air you can use a SOI (statement of interest)

If you don't understand some of the things don't be afraid to PM me.
 

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call me crazy but you hung out with her that many times and you didnt make a move?? hang out with her again, go for the kiss... if your rejected, youve just been LJBF'ed.... if not... your in... you prob waited too long tho bro i go for the kiss 1st or 2nd hangout always just to see if they are interested or not.. if they aint.. then NEXT... good luck bro
 

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well after our movie one time i walked her to her car and i put my arm around her the whole way and she did so too and i kinda felt if there was anytime ti jiss her that woulda been it but liek i said i feel so clouded in my mind and think too much and couldnt tell if shouldve or not, liek shes friedns with some of my guy friend but whenever she hangs out with us shes always really touchy with me liek if im sititng shell put her arms on my shoulder and keepem there or stand by me...so idunno
 

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these words im gonna tell you right now you must use for your entire life because they are the secret to becoming great. JUST GO FOR IT
 

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dude its never that easy though, you have to know its not that easy if we could all just go for it then noneof us would be here for help, im afraid to scare her away.
 

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there you have it.. btw.. lifting weights rules bro nice name
 

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lol yeah lifting weight is sooo freaking good feeling i love it, im in love with my body i cant lie lol, but what d o u mean there i have it
 

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ohh i gave my answer to the situation... theres nothing else i can tell you... thats how a guy in charge of the situation would do it... and yes.. look at my name.. i love lifting weights and getting huge
 

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You better make a move before you get put in the friends zone, or you'll be **** out of luck.
 

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Ok so lets say I go in for the kiss. Obviously its at the end of a date but i mean how do i do this...am i supposed to say something mushy before or catch her off guard....seriously....:confused: .....how do i get to her lips in an unakward way. Usually we finish off by huggin each other and talking about hanging out again so like lets say i walk her to her car for exampleand shes standing there and im about to give her that hug....i mean for some reason i feel such negative vibes like i shouldnt try n kiss her cuz i might just be a friend to her and i freak out n before i know it its done. How do i perform the kiss teah me master DJs
 

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i saw in Neil Strauss book a good move, well theoreticly its a good move...

build up kino really lots do sexual touching and what not (make sure you really really build it up) if she rejects you then you go back to start and try again, after a while of this lean in look her in eyes and go

' do you want to kiss me?'

'yes' = kiss
'no' = no 'oh you gave me the impression you did'
'maybe' = you say 'lets find out...'

i dont know its something like that at top of my head i'm finding the chapter...

the book is called 'The Game' and its really good, motivates you to become a pick up artist and shows different perspectives.
 

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I really dunno how much touching i could really be able to do though like in a movie especially cuz of the position im in right now where holding er hand feels the same as kissing her since its basically brekaing tinto a relationship kinda thing
 

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found it....


You: 'Would you like to kiss me?'
Her : Yes Response (Kiss)
Her: Maybe (or hesitates)
Response: Well lets find out.. (kiss)
If she says no anywhere in this:
'I diddn't say you could. It just looked like you had something on your mind.'

You have nothing to lose. Every contingency is planned for. Its fool proof.
That is the Mystery kiss close
A build up i suggest for this would be lots of eye contact, flirting before the movie starts, put your arm around her during the movie sniff her and say 'you smell nice if shes wearing something which is likely then touch her hair, only advance one stage to the next after an indicater of intrest from her for example her giving kino to you. Then touch her neck lean in and then mystery close!. I can see you're suffering from a bit of one-itis you have to detach yourself from the outcome. Not care. If you kiss then good your set. If not dont worry find other girls and read up more on approaching, attracting and closing.
 

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i used "what would you say if i told you i wanted to kiss you"
and use the same answers as the mystery close
yes = go for it
no = you gave me the impression you did
maybe = well lets find out
 

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But that doesnt say much about how to deal with the akwardness or how shell say no, im worrie dabout her giving me a wierd look n stepping back or something and jsut being liek uhh, then saying something gay like im sorry i dont see u like that ....****
 

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Yep another good kiss close that i use some times is give her a SOI and then kiss. It goes like this

YOU: *While smelling her neck* "I'm trying so hard not to kiss you."
*rubbing tip of ur nose on her neck and then look into her eyes (bedroom eyes) and kiss her*

Mystery kiss close is also good.
 

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how many kisses can i do? i dont wanna make a lame catchphrase is there anything thats just more realistic
 
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