I don't understand why anyone bothers?

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all this "game' and short term bs, Why risk the diseases, spend the money, etc? are you THAT lacking in other ways to occupy your mind? Sheesh. Go LEARN something useful, or something that will make you a lot of money. Women are easy to get, once you have the money and time to waste on attracting/dating them. That free time has to be "bought" by having the money which lets you not have to waste 50+ hours a week on a job/commute to a job, etc.

Having sex with a condom might as well be masturbation, for all the good it does you. And not practicing safe sex is near suicide. So you are stuck with a long term thing, and those aint easy to set up, nor are they cheap, nor is more than 1 woman in 100 a decent candidate, either.
 

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Game is a social skill and basic of pshycology, you require this in many other aspects of life, even on the job. According to your logic, we should not be getting laid or have girlfriends untill we have careers at the age of 30+.
 

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If you're not that bothered about women, that's cool. A lot of guys have low libidos and find pleasure from other things. I was a computer nerd in my early 20s and didn't care much for women. But nowadays, as a redblooded man, oozing testosterone, I have urges and I love being with women.

But then again, this site isn't just about short term game. Many of us here are focused on self improvement and making the most of ourselves in many different aspects of our lives.
 

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I know what you mean, "don't". It's all about time preference I guess. Some people like to play first and then work, other people like to get work done first and then play. Some mix it up.

But when you got some money and power, man, it's a whole different ballgame. ****. Go chase that paper!
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

zekko

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I agree with some of what you said.

don't said:
all this "game' and short term bs, Why risk the diseases, spend the money, etc? are you THAT lacking in other ways to occupy your mind? Sheesh. Go LEARN something useful, or something that will make you a lot of money.
I do think that the lifestyle the community promotes undersells the risk of disease and pregnancy. But SoSuave does send a message that women shouldn't be your main focus. Better to focus on your "mission": career, hobbies, self improvement.

don't said:
Women are easy to get, once you have the money and time to waste on attracting/dating them. That free time has to be "bought" by having the money which lets you not have to waste 50+ hours a week on a job/commute to a job, etc.
I agree women are easy to get, or rather should be. It's a natural process that will usually happen all on its own without a lot of complex analysis. But there are guys who find it very difficult, and I know I went through a time in my life when it wasn't an easy thing at all.

But you're talking about getting rich first, then the ladies will come. Sounds good, but this can take time, even for the ones fortunate enough to succeed at it well enough to lead a life of pure leisure. The odds are against them, unfortunately.

I definitely took time out from my social life to focus on my career. Unfortunately it hasn't made me so rich I don't have to work lol. Yet. But generally, women should be part of your "having fun" time, so you should be able to squeeze them in now and then.

don't said:
Having sex with a condom might as well be masturbation, for all the good it does you. And not practicing safe sex is near suicide.
I'm with you here. I frigging hate condoms. In fact, one of the main things I dread the most if I break up with my girlfriend is having to go back to using condoms. Ugh. Condoms are a good argument for monogamy.

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So you are stuck with a long term thing, and those aint easy to set up, nor are they cheap, nor is more than 1 woman in 100 a decent candidate, either.
Well, I agree good LTRs are difficult to find and set up. All the more reason to see more women and keep going through them until you find a good one. It can take awhile.
 
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Leave each human being to their own devices. If a man wants to spend much of his life trying to pursue as many women as possible, then more power to him.

Women take up very little of my thoughts and very little of my time? Why? Because in order for me to dedicate my time to a woman, she has to show me they are worthy of my time. Very few women have proven to me that they are worthy of my time. It's rare for me to find a woman in particular who I want to pursue and whom I want to associate myself with on a personal level.

Plus the small fact that I really enjoy being free and single to go about as I please, many of my friends are in relationships, some of whom I seldom see nowadays. Friends who used to be close couldn't be further away and it's down to their girlfriends, but as long as they are happy that's all that matters.

Some of my friends only go out to bars and clubs to score with chicks which is fine, but that's not really my cup of tea. I like to go out, soak up the atmosphere, have a few drinks, dance the night away and have a good time in the company of my pals.

Women are not a big deal to me, they are rather like a PS3, when I get bored of it/them, I simply switch it/them off and that's that.
 

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I don't see the point in going after a woman for only sex and no affection. Sex without affection is just mutual masturbation.
 

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I actually enjoy the company of some women and find it nice to get some different perspective on life. It can be fun and cute to tease women as well, not something I would do with guy friends as much.

I view getting better with women as a goal ; such as lifting heavier weights or getting a better paying job. I mean it feels good to know that I'm attractive to a cute girl and she enjoys being around me. I don't put too much emphasis on gaining approval but more on enjoying the different energies.

Take this with a grain of salt because I have very little experience with women, in the sexual sense.
 
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Mark1234 said:
Take this with a grain of salt because I have very little experience with women, in the sexual sense.
My friend that doesn't automatically disqualify your opinion. You are entitled to your opinion as much as someone who has a lot more sexual experience.
 

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Because the sexual energy of women and their female affection / energy is something that all men want and need. It's a healthy thing to desire and even healthier thing to have. Just cold f*ckin can be fun without it, but with it, it is a very fulfilling experience that brings out the best in you.
 

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There is more to life than sex, dating and relationships. I don't think anybody, in full honesty, would say they're absolutely required to be happy in life.

That said, most still desire partners and sex, it's normal. And some are better at it than others, hence why quite a few men seek to improve their game.

What's more, your comment is an interesting one, on a website dedicated to game and being better with women. Is wanting to be better at something so offensive? Can I get offended at the fact Barcelona and Messi train most of days of the week?
 

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sighsigh said:
I don't see the point in going after a woman for only sex and no affection. Sex without affection is just mutual masturbation.
Sex is more so about pleasure. think of it, most sexual acts that ever take place in the world are about pleasure. Secondly is intimacy, third is reproduction.
 

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To be honest, if he needs motivation to do all this then I'd suggest to him the same way I discovered all of this.

Go read Neil Stauss' book The Game and take it with a pinch of salt.

The moral you can take from it is that with work and effort in pretty much any field, you can improve.

After reading that book you will feel more inclined to explore books such as the DJ bible and eventually find yourself being able to answer questions that previously were problematic.

Spinning plates in my opinion is extremely important and vital, not only does it open you up to more experiences but its something fun to do.

That is just my perspective on things, I'm 19 and at University, spinning plates or knowing how to is brilliant.

It allows me to discover what I really want in the opposite sex but it gives me an option also to pick and choose, to drop the plate so to speak.
 

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Your thinking that it is difficult probably has a lot to do with why it is difficult for you.
 
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