I don't Understand Why Americans Complain about OLD

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I'm from Sydney Australia, I decided to Change locations on OLD from Sydney to Los Angeles. On Sydney I averaged about 9 likes a day with most of them being below average. In los Angeles I got 31 likes in one day with most of the women being pretty good looking.

I don't understand How you American guys could possibly be struggling, most of the girls replied too. If i lived in America i would be in poosey paradise.

I thought I just needed to do self improvement, but i was wrong. I was just in the wrong location, I am going to try NYC next to see if i do even better.

Seriously considering moving to America right now.
 

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This isn't to burst your bubble but…Receiving a “like” is far different than receiving an actual message.

Back when I was doing the online thing, I only responded to one like. The reason is because any person can click the like button 60 times in 60 seconds. Would any self-respecting man really want to invest his time reaching out to every like that they received?

Admittedly, I did it once. She looked above average, but her whole persona and behavior was not on par with those that I met that actually sent an actual message.

In my opinion, this is the main problem with online dating these days; A woman feels hurt or jilted from her last relationship or fling. Instead of working on herself, she signs back on to forget her troubles. Consequently she arrives to the new person with recent baggage that she has yet to resolve. That doesn’t sound like a lot of fun to me.
 

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To put things in contrast the population of ALL OF AUSTRALIA is 24m, the population of Los Angeles alone is 10m. It’s also where young pretty girls go to try to be discovered. Change it to San Jose see how it goes.
 

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To put things in contrast the population of ALL OF AUSTRALIA is 24m, the population of Los Angeles alone is 10m. It’s also where young pretty girls go to try to be discovered. Change it to San Jose see how it goes.
San Jose-San Francisco is bad.

Los Angeles also has a bad surplus of men.

There are Australians who move to the United States who get more vagina because of the novelty factor and their accents, which doesn't come across on a swipe app but would come across during an in-person approach or a swipe app arranged first date.

The USA doesn't need another man immigrating here. We already have too many men.
 
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1). To be good at OLD you have to have your shvt together. A lot of men DONT and they can’t lie to themselves on OLD like they can on this site, YouTube, or etc. When you can’t get past this then you start constantly complaining about OLD and using other coping mechanisms.

2). It requires being in a major US city, so if you live in tumbleweed, KS…sawry
 

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A like and messaging on an app is a far cry from a date and sex. So many of these women online will string you along for attention and validation but you’ll never meet them in person.
 

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I am not sure why either. I am just a toad, and had little problems getting my d!ck wet in OLD in 2018. Stop using OLD and females as a friends first attitude and you get in. Basically, do the opposite of what the world tells dudes to do to attract females.
 

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I'm from Sydney Australia, I decided to Change locations on OLD from Sydney to Los Angeles. On Sydney I averaged about 9 likes a day with most of them being below average. In los Angeles I got 31 likes in one day with most of the women being pretty good looking.

I don't understand How you American guys could possibly be struggling, most of the girls replied too. If i lived in America i would be in poosey paradise.

I thought I just needed to do self improvement, but i was wrong. I was just in the wrong location, I am going to try NYC next to see if i do even better.

Seriously considering moving to America right now.
Here is your answer @Zimbabwe lol

(Sorry US dudebros, but its to temping to not joke about it lmfao)
 

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I don't understand How you American guys could possibly be struggling, most of the girls replied too. If i lived in America i would be in poosey paradise.

I thought I just needed to do self improvement, but i was wrong. I was just in the wrong location, I am going to try NYC next to see if i do even better.

Seriously considering moving to America right now.
I found OLD easy but then again I’m less than 30 miles from NYC.
 

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and females as a friends first attitude and you get in. Basically, do the opposite of what the world tells dudes to do to attract females.
Can you expand on this a little with examples of how to avoid the friends first attitude? I fully agree—it’s an area I need to work on
 

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Location is a big factor on OLD I guess. I recently had better results on OLD than IRL but this seems to be the exception rather than the rule for men. I have heard stories about good looking guys getting a bunch of matches, only four of those agreeing to go out, only half of those actually showing up, etc, long story short he didnt bang anyone.

I was like wtf why am I doing way better than this guy? And someone pointed out to me we are in different locations.
 

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My Tinder experience was, of course big metro areas were fine. But smaller, podunk places were fine too, if you’re just passing through. A night or two.
 
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Bro OLD is a coping mechanism. For a few things.
Displaying your life, business, band, brand on SM is fine. But when you go there looking for "love" because your not talking to women in real time is a major cope.
It has ots downside. And part of having your ****tt together is also being able to meet girls without an app.
if you can’t get a match on OLD, then you are telling me that you lack the ability to market yourself externally. You can easily lie about yourself and fool some drunk girl at a bar.
 
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I disagree. You got that azz backwards.
Marketing yourself happens in the tangable world. You can market all you want in the metaverse but if your not the real deal in your own home that high market value girl is going to blow you out. If you are lucky enough to get the bang before she does.
And who said anything zbout fooling drunk girls?
OLD
You need good quality pictures which is something below average men can’t just pull up out your @$$

You must list your height, occupation, location, and a decent bio.

I’m not saying these standards are extreme, but if you don’t have your shvt together, you can’t just bullshvt these. OLD filters out average to low value men and lets you know where you stand at in SMV.

Cold Approach
1) You can choose a setting that fits/benefits your value status which basically answers everything. If you’re in college then you can go to college bars. If your average and live in your moms basement then you can target women at Walmart or the McDonalds worker.
 

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Does your location say that you're in australia? American women like australian men.

Example: I have way more success on OLD when I go to south america and leave my profile in english.
 

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Remember it’s an algorithm. Changing your location probably put you on the top of the pile. Soon you’ll find yourself back on the bottom unless you pay for the upgrades.
 
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Just Hilarious lol. And you are talking marketing? What are you going to do when she sees your not so pretty face and that creepy vibe you give off not looking like your pics? Come on man
im not advocating cat fishing a woman on a date?
 

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Can you expand on this a little with examples of how to avoid the friends first attitude? I fully agree—it’s an area I need to work on
A lot of dudes nowadays attempt to become friends with the female first and then try to work into a relationship. This doesn't work. You let it known you are interested in her sexually. Sometimes it's mutual, sometimes it's not. This friends first thing is bullsh!t.
 

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Sydney is considered the hardest city in the world for Tinder. Everywhere is going to be easier, even a tough city like Los Angeles.

P.S. "OLD" is a cringe acronym. Just write it out.
 
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