I don't know how to live in this.

[btownbuck2012]

My friend and I were out the other night and we met a girl named Michelle. That's her real name I don't give a ****. Anyways we start talking to Michelle about a threesome to which she responded favorably. The convo was getting real sexual, i.e. if she was cool with blowing me while my friend tapped it from behind, can we film it, etc, etc.

Finally I ask whether or not she has a bf, to which she responds "yes, but i'm not gonna marry him".

I flag down another girl and get her involved in the conversation. At this point we're talking about naked twister back at her place. I'm talking about how I wanna suck on her titties and eat her *****. This is all going on out in public on a university campus. Come to find out this girl also has a boyfriend. As a matter of fact, before we leave she's trying to get him to come over and talk to me, all the while giggling and having a good time.

So where am I going with this?

I could understand people giving me sh!t about being bitter if I was some dude who was cooped up in his room all day playing WoW and theorizing about how awful women are. I get that. BUT these are, for the most part, my experiences with the opposite sex.

Long story short, I made out with Michelle that night. Tonight I leave her a very sexual message on her voice mail about whether or not she wants to come over to my place and fvck me and my two friends. Didn't really expect her to but I like to **** around with the numbers I get.

Guess what? BF texts me back from Michelle's phone and tells me that he didn't care who I was "or where I was from, but you better not text or call Michelle again".

This is what leads me to my depression and bitterness about the opposite sex. How many women out there do you think are just using men for BF's and Husband's to put up some smokescreen to the rest of the world. It's as if they're saying "Look everyone. Look at my husband/BF. We're a happy couple and we're living our life the way everyone else is. We're doing what we're supposed to be doing. Look how normal we are! Nothing out of the ordinary here". The sad part is that MEN buy into this sh!t, and what scares the hell out of me is that I feel like MOST women **** around on their husbands and then when **** gets too real, they have their BF or Husband get involved and tell the guy to **** off, get lost, w/e.

Don't get me wrong, PROPS to her Boyfriend for telling me to **** off. But it's her 'have my cake and eat it too' reality that makes me sick to my damn stomach. She can ****ing flirt with other guys and make out, perhaps **** or blow them but at the end of the day she can also run back to her BF reality and put up a little show for the rest of the world. And usually the bf or husband gets the most heat or gets hit the hardest when the sh!t hits the fan and the woman gets off scot free. Think unfaithful with richard gere

And again, this isn't me theorizing. These are my experiences with the opposite sex.

We met another girl last night who told us that the guy's roommate who see was seeing also liked her and that they both told her "to pick which one she liked". Dude this is the reality that women live in. Guys do crap like this and women run wild with infidelity.I don't know how i can live in this. I grew up believing in love and faithfulness and my EXPERIENCES have shattered this reality for me.

But you know what? Even through all the bitterness and anger, I'm relived. I'm relived because I see life for what it is. I can do whatever I want with myself. I can chase my dreams and try my best to make them happen because I'm permanently out of the mindset that having a girlfriend or wife means that I'm an accomplished man. It ****ing doesn't. There's tons of trash out there and life is too short to sift through it searching for the gems. I'd rather be improving myself or learning something new. anything but chasing *****.

Does anyone else feel this way? I mean I'm sick to **** the death of it. Women are out of control and it's because guys allow it. Add on top of that the fact that the economy is ****ed and it sure is a wonderful life.

RANT/

 

[Greasy Pig]

Good point! I've had a chick phone me drunk and telling me how badly she wants me to fvck her, then I get an email from her BF telling me to back off.
I laughed at him and told him not to be so butthurt that his GF is flirty prick tease on the drink.
Also said that's why I didn't get serious with her and wished him the best of luck.
But what p1ssed me off the most was that she initiated everything and then felt guilty and told her BF that I had pursued her! Fvckin joke.

It's true, women feel so entitled and empowered nowadays that they think they can act however they want and not have to face any consequences.
It's up to men to have the balls to say - and show by their actions - that this is not acceptable.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Good point! I've had a chick phone me drunk and telling me how badly she wants me to fvck her, then I get an email from her BF telling me to back off.
I laughed at him and told him not to be so butthurt that his GF is flirty prick tease on the drink.
Also said that's why I didn't get serious with her and wished him the best of luck.
But what p1ssed me off the most was that she initiated everything and then felt guilty and told her BF that I had pursued her! Fvckin joke.

It's true, women feel so entitled and empowered nowadays that they think they can act however they want and not have to face any consequences.
It's up to men to have the balls to say - and show by their actions - that this is not acceptable.

I disagree. I think this type of behavior is the equivalent of a child acting up over and over again because he/she hasn't been disciplined.

I don't think women do these things because it makes them feel empowered or it's an ego trip. It's just how they are in a liberated environment. It's in their nature to do crap like this when men allow it. Again, it's like a kid acting up because he/she hasn't been disciplined not to. They know no other way. It's pretty ****ed up when you think about it.

They'll flirt, make out with, or even **** some dude on a random night, BUT when that very same guy texts/calls her some day and she "isn't feeling him" anymore, then it's time for the BF/HUSBAND to step in and tell this guy to get a life, without ever asking themselves "how the **** did he get her number in the first place?" No, they just immediately rationalize to themeselves that their "angel of a girlfriend/wife" would never cheat, be dishonest. This crap goes on all the time because guys allow it.

Face it, there will ALWAYS be some dude willing to get walked on for sex. ALWAYS.

 

[Trump]

This is what leads me to my depression and bitterness about the opposite sex. How many women out there do you think are just using men for BF's and Husband's to put up some smokescreen to the rest of the world.

Don't get me wrong, PROPS to her Boyfriend for telling me to **** off. But it's her 'have my cake and eat it too' reality that makes me sick to my damn stomach. She can ****ing flirt with other guys and make out, perhaps **** or blow them but at the end of the day she can also run back to her BF reality and put up a little show for the rest of the world. And usually the bf or husband gets the most heat or gets hit the hardest when the sh!t hits the fan and the woman gets off scot free. Think unfaithful with richard gere

And again, this isn't me theorizing. These are my experiences with the opposite sex.

Does anyone else feel this way? I mean I'm sick to **** the death of it. Women are out of control and it's because guys allow it. Add on top of that the fact that the economy is ****ed and it sure is a wonderful life.

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Bro take it easy. These women you are so angry at haven't done anything to you personally, all they have done is have a boyfriend. If you get this angry when they haven't done anything to you, what are you going to do when a girl does something directly to tick you off, shoot her?

Don't be so dramatic. Women are fickle, they change their minds, they lie, they constantly need their ego stroked, they need validation on a daily basis. Don't take anything personally unless you are directly insulted, just go with the flow.

I hate to say, but if you get so worked up over this silly garbage, you may have trouble in the real world. Some women marry to get divorced and take half, some women ruin their husbands business and lives by bad mouthing them, some women steal hundreds of millions from their husbands and the husband ends up in jail, some women falsely accuse their husbands of rape and he gets put away for 15 years because the jury was all women. And some women kill their husbands for money, happened to my brother.

Life is cruel, but don't let anything upset you, it's not worth it.

 

[backseatjuan]

Dear fellow DJ ( btownbuck2012 ), there is something you are missing from your experiences with women. Those women that give you the cold shoulder or rejected you. Can you say with absolute certainty that you can seduce every god damn woman in a marriage or relationship? I believe the answer is no. Well those are the women who stay true to their man, and there are a lot more of those types of women than *****s.

 

[headFirst]

yea i was at a bar last week.. (college bar) bought this chick a few drinks had a good time.. dancing with her, then I get her number, and then text her the next night no answer.. I see her at the bar this past weekend with some other dude doing the same thing.. They are leaches..

 

[Renegade357]

Can you say with absolute certainty that you can seduce every god damn woman in a marriage or relationship? I believe the answer is no. Well those are the women who stay true to their man, and there are a lot more of those types of women than *****s.

Best line in this thread. As DJs we laugh off the dumb s******ts. We don't tolerate triffling behavior. We don't take women personally. We will all have our day.

 

[Aristippus]

btown,

I think most women have, to some degree, what I call the spoiled brat syndrome. Anyone who is overindulged and not corrected when they misbehave can become a spoiled brat. No bad consequences for bad behavior = a higher probability for bad behavior to occur.

The thing is, once we realize that a large share of women have been over-indulged and not corrected, we can see some women have it more or less than others. And some women display this spoiled brat behavior in different areas of their romantic relationships. Some spoiled brats may be loyal sexually, but show other forms of spoiled brat behavior. It could be related to money instead of sex in one woman. It could be that another woman abuses your kindness and doesn't respect your time and energy, it could be that the next woman thinks it's ok to stay friends with her exes while expecting you to cut off all contact with your female friends.

There are some good women out there. Even the good ones will have to be corrected sometimes. But yeah, when your experience contradicts the false, rose-colored glasses reality you've been spoon-fed, it can take some time to come to grips with it. Because it isn't all fairy tales and fantasy. Reality, the real world, has a mix of beautiful and ugly things. You realize that a lot of women will try to manipulate you if you allow it. On the brighter side, knowing what to look out for and knowing the warning signs, you can avoid the women that are of low character and find the good ones. So there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[JohnChops]

I disagree. I think this type of behavior is the equivalent of a child acting up over and over again because he/she hasn't been disciplined.

I don't think women do these things because it makes them feel empowered or it's an ego trip. It's just how they are in a liberated environment. It's in their nature to do crap like this when men allow it. Again, it's like a kid acting up because he/she hasn't been disciplined not to. They know no other way. It's pretty ****ed up when you think about it.

They'll flirt, make out with, or even **** some dude on a random night, BUT when that very same guy texts/calls her some day and she "isn't feeling him" anymore, then it's time for the BF/HUSBAND to step in and tell this guy to get a life, without ever asking themselves "how the **** did he get her number in the first place?" No, they just immediately rationalize to themeselves that their "angel of a girlfriend/wife" would never cheat, be dishonest. This crap goes on all the time because guys allow it.

Face it, there will ALWAYS be some dude willing to get walked on for sex. ALWAYS.

In the bold is so true. Even half the posts on this site detail this. "Oh she makes me do all her sh1t, talk to her about everything , we had sex once, she lost interest, still wants me to do ****, i do it, im a puppet .." . Sex is just sex, its not even that big of a deal, its just fun ... thats IT.

On the post, that was funny how that happened to you. I concur that half of women out there with BFs just use them for the comfort and for the non-wh0re factor. "Oh i have a BF im not a wh0re!!! " And yet they go do sh1t like this. ITs how it is, you learn to live with it.

Ive had this happen to me lol. I was at a party and this girl kept following me around, hugging me , and apparently she had a BF. she had 2 mikes hards ( aka not drunk , not even tipsy) and then she tries to get her and down my pants and then her BF found out and was all butthurt about it. Face it if your girlfriend is a wh0re she will be one forever.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Brother, I can relate to this thread. I worked in a fancy environmental non-profit with these eco babes, many of whom I thought had more self respect--but absolutely I have seen behavior that doesn't reflect any sense of commitment or decency. Our culture is steeped in a mantra of self-indulgence and lack of responsibility. Many men and women behave this way. The truth is, just as you have encountered these cheating women, there are many men who would entertain the same scenarios (look around this forum long enough there are plenty of men looking how to cheat and get away unnoticed).

You have a high self bar and high standards--you are driving towards what you want and dream of. Don't let all of the muck drag you down and make you think the whole pond is scum...

As donjuanabe posted, some women WILL reject you if they are taken. As will some men (reject women when they are taken).

But of course finding people with real integrity (men or women) is difficult! Most people are self-interested. I don't think there is a sense in "correcting" a woman in promiscuity--that has to be a value she asserts for herself (in my opinion).

Can't make a hoe a housewife, right?

Unfortunately many tips on this site help us get the hoes.

But there are some quality people out there. Clearly you are one of them (as a man). Hang in there keep self progressing you never know who or how you'll meet someone.

 

[foreverAFC]

OP maybe for the women the thought of having a train run on them by you and all your friends was a bit much ?

 

[Droz88]

I'm surprised that many of you share this world view. It's startling I must say as I have not personally seen this behavior that much. Where you guys seeing this most? From daygame, social circles?