I don't know how to comfort/cheer my GF when she needs it.

Fela Kuti

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To end or not to end..

Everytime my GF is upset or in a bad mood, I always seem lost for words. I can't say anything beside the usual "what's wrong?" which she usually answers with "I don't know" or "nothing". I know that she only needs to be comforted/cheered, but I don't know how. Yesterday, she even said to me, "Cheer me up, make me happy." And again, not a word came from my mouth and that only made her mood worsen. Please help, guys.


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OK, so finally she opened up to me. This is the essence of what she said:

-She's been upset these last couple of days. Because she feels that I lack initiative and effort, I'm this, I'm that.
-Logically she feels this relationship is fine, but her heart says that something is wrong.
-She sometimes feel that I'm like a friend and not more. She expects a BF to be reliable, making her feel safe and calm. But I haven't met her standard yet.
-Despite all that, she feels that I'm still irreplaceable in her heart for now. She loves no other man other than me.

When I told her that maybe it's time for us to split, she said that she didn't want to breakup yet. She said all of those things so we can correct what's wrong. I'm so damn confused right now. I still love her, but I have a slight doubt that I'm not gonna meet her standard. What's your advice, guys?
 
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In times like this doing nothing is usually the best answer.

Why?

1. Doing anything at all usually makes it worse.

2. Even if she asks you to cheer her up you are not a tap dancer or a clown nor are you a mind reader.

However if she ever says anything directly and suggests for you to do that to cheer her up go right ahead if you want to.
 

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Thanks for your answer. It's comforting to know that it might not be my fault if I'm not able to cheer her up. But when she said "cheer me up", she looked at me like she expected me to say/do something. When I kept silent, she seemed very disappointed. Once, I said to her, "It will soon be OK" to which she answered, "You're not helping at all."
 

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Pretty much anything you say won't help. At all. Women like action. Next time just grab her and hug her and don't say a word and see what happens.
 

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It's abit odd she wont tell you why she's upset. women ususally know in great detail why things are not as they should be.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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OK, so finally she opened up to me. This is the essence of what she said:

-She's been upset these last couple of days. Because she feels that I lack initiative and effort, I'm this, I'm that.
-Logically she feels this relationship is fine, but her heart says that something is wrong.
-She sometimes feel that I'm like a friend and not more. She expects a BF to be reliable, making her feel safe and calm. But I haven't met her standard yet.
-Despite all that, she feels that I'm still irreplaceable in her heart for now. She loves no other man other than me.

When I told her that maybe it's time for us to split, she said that she didn't want to breakup yet. She said all of those things so we can correct what's wrong. I'm so damn confused right now. I still love her, but I have a slight doubt that I'm not gonna meet her standard. What's your advice, guys?
 

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I think this will help.

From David Deida - The Way Of The Superior Man:

Don't Analyze Your Woman

The feminine's moods and opinions are like weather patterns. They are constantly changing, severe and gentle, and they have no single source. No analysis will work. There is no linear chain of cause and effect that can lead to the kernel of the "problem." There is no problem, only a storm, a breeze, a sudden change in weather. And the bases of these storms are the high and low pressure systems of love. When a woman feels love flowing deeply, her mood can instantly evaporate into joy, re- gardless of the supposed reason for the mood.

As a man, you probably want to find the cause for the problems in your life. That way, you can eliminate the source of the problem. By getting to its root, you can solve the problem, hopefully once and for all. And so, when your woman seems to have an emotional problem, you want to know why. You want to know what is upsetting her. You assume there is a specific cause. You want to know what triggered her bad mood so you can fix the situation.
Because you love her, you begin asking her questions to get to the root of the problem. "What's wrong? Did I do something to upset you? What are you crying about? Are you about to start your period? Did somebody say something horrible to you? "You are under the illusion that when you find out the cause of her affliction, then the cure will easily follow. But it doesn't work that way; your questioning is probably making her mood worse.

The amazing thing is this: 90% of a woman's emotional problems stem from feeling unloved. So don't stand back and analyze her, like a doctor diagnosing a patient, or like a therapist questioning a client. Give her your love—the same love that is motivating your questioning—immediately and unmistakably. Walk over to her, look deeply into her eyes, hold her and stroke her, tell her how much you love her, smile, hum her favorite song and dance with her, and chances are, her emotional problem will evaporate. She may still have some situation to deal with, and you may be able to help her with that, but the emotional aspect will be converted to love.

It is a very rare occasion when your analysis of her mood relieves her of it. Most often, your analysis and attempts to fix her will just piss her off more. Ask her if she would rather you gave her love or analyzed her when she is upset. It's so easy to give her love; it's what both of you really want anyway. But as a man you are more likely to try to fix her. That's exactly not what she wants, and exactly what will make the situation worse, most of the time.

The next time your woman is in a bad mood, try this: Assume she is not feeling loved. Simply assume it, even if it seems that it can't be that simple, that there must be some underlying reason for her upsetness, a reason that you could fix. Assume she is more like a flower that needs watering than an engine that needs a carburetor adjustment. Don't assume anything is wrong at all. Assume that she wants love from you, in a deep, strong, steady, and sensitive way.

Look into her eyes with love, touch her how she likes to be touched with love, and speak or sing to her with love. Discover what happens to her mood. Then, after her mood has been dissolved by your loving and she is happy and relaxed, you can talk about anything that still needs to be talked about.
If you ever find yourself asking your woman questions about her mood while she is still in it, you are already on the wrong road. First, give her love through your eyes, touch, movement, and tone of voice. Then and only then, after the connection of love has been made, find out what remains to be talked about.
Basically it is not going to do you much good by trying to analyse the problem, which is what you are trying ti do by asking "what's the problem". It's not helping her at all. Cheer her up by showing her attention and love. Do something physical and spontaneous.
 

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Hope that helped. Here's another chaper that may be somewhat helpfull or relevant. It can explain it much better than I can.

Her Complaint Is Content-Free
Women are always wanting divine masculine presence in a man, regard- less of their specific complaint or mood. A man should hear his woman's complaints as warning bells, and then do his best to align his life with his truth and purpose. However, if he believes in the literal content of her complaint, he will immediately go off course, for the content reflects her present mood more than a careful observation of his tendencies over time. Her complaint should be valued as a reminder to "get it together," and perhaps as an indication as to how. But more often than not, the specifics of her complaint do not describe the real, underlying action or tendency that needs to be changed.

Your woman says,
"How can you spend so much time in front of the TV when our rent is due in a few days, we're behind on car payments, and you just lost your job?"
"Don't worry about it. I have a job interview tomorrow"
"Well, why don't you get off your butt! You said you were going to clean out the garage weeks ago. I can hardly get to the car!"
"OK. OK. I'll clean the garage this afternoon."
Your woman stops talking and goes about her business, but you can feel her simmering anger and tension. You don't like to be around her when she's like this. You want to get out of the house.
"I'll be back in a few hours and I'll clean the garage," you say, as you grab your coat and head for the door.
You hear a glass break in the kitchen, so you go in and find your wife furious.
"I can't take this any more!" she wails.
"What? I said I'd clean the garage. What's going on?" you wonder.
"I just can't take it!" she cries out, pulling away from you, closing up, and not letting you touch her.
"I don't get it. I said I'd clean the garage. I have a job interview tomorrow Everything is going to be fine. What do you want?"
You've probably had some version of this conversation with your woman. It holds a key tomasculine growth in freedom. And it reveals a common mistake men make with their women.

The thing your woman is complaining about is rarely the thing she is complaining about. It is a mistake to believe the con-tent of what she is saying, and then respond to her complaints, point by point. When she complains about financial issues, she is usually feeling a lack in your masculine capacity to direct your life with clarity, purpose, integrity, and wisdom. The money itself is secondary. If you were poor but totally conscious, happy, full of integrity, fearless, humorous, loving and giving your fullest gift to the world and to your woman, she wouldn't complain about lack of money.
When you say you will clean the garage, and then weeks pass by and you haven't, her complaint isn't really about the garage. Sure, she'd like a clean garage, but this is a superficial issue. The deeper issue is that you didn't do what you said you would. You gave her your word, and you didn't follow through. She can't trust what you say. And this hurts her, deeply.
She might seem to be overreacting to you. Why is she so hysterical? It's only a garage. But she can feel your lack of integrity. Not having cleaned the garage yet seems like a small thing to you, but it shows that you don't follow through with your word, with your purpose.

Your word is a demonstration of your purpose, of your masculine core. When you don't follow through with what you say you are going to do, she feels that your masculine core is weak. She feels let down. She can't trust your masculine direction. And so she feels a great loss. Over time, she will begin to build up her own masculine protection against your lack of integrity. She will begin to guard herself against the hurt that your lack of carry-through causes. She will harden herself, becoming angular and tense. To you, the garage seems trivial. To her, you have failed at your word. She can't trust you.

It's very much as if your woman were to become slovenly. The core of the feminine is energy or radiance. If she stops taking care of herself, if she becomes dull and drab, always tired and worn out, then she is unable to give you the feminine energy you desire in intimacy. You might still love her, but you will begin to look elsewhere for feminine energy.

At the level of polarity, you are attracted to and enlivened by her feminine radiance. Likewise, at the level of polarity, she is attracted to and relaxed by your masculine clarity, direction, integrity, and presence. When she complains about you watching Tv, it is usually more a complaint about your whole life, your lack of persistence and clarity. If your woman felt you were living totally in your clarity of purpose, if she felt you totally present with her when you chose to be with her, and then you said, "I'm going to relax and watch Tv for half an hour," it would be fine. It's not the Tv watching itself that really bothers her, although that is what she'll talk about.
You must listen to your woman more as an oracle than as an advisor. She usually is speaking in a very tangential, but revelatory, style. She is revealing your unconscious habits that prevent your fullest awakening in consciousness. Your unconsciousness causes her pain. She won't say it that way, but that's what she is indicating.

Don't argue with her about the garage and the job interview. That's not what she's talking about, even though that's what she's talking about. Hear her complaints as the universe giving you signs about your life. Is watching TV right now the best way to use the moment? Sometimes you need the recreation, but sometimes you are just being lazy, trying to forget the responsibilities you have created in your life.
Did you purposefully lie to your woman about cleaning the garage? Or did you just let it slide, like you do with so many commitments you make in your life? Can you really blame your woman for being hurt by the lack of integrity that shows in your life?

If she can't trust you with living your life from your deepest wisdom and fullest capacity, she can't trust you with her life. She can't trust your masculine impeccability, so she naturally will compensate by overdeveloping her own. She is not only being masculine for herself, now she's being masculine for you. If she's got to remind you of the job interview or the mess in the garage, she's supplying the masculine direction for the both of you. And this results in stress. Her body will begin to show it. She will become less radiant and less relaxed in her feminine power and glory because she has to compensate for your failure.

The bags under your woman's eyes and the lines in her face may reveal much about how clearly you are living your highest purpose. Of course, your woman has her own unconscious habits to outgrow, but sometimes she is reflecting yours. Try to do your best to determine which of her "problems" are actually exquisitely sensitive bodily feedback to the way you are living your life. You know the amount of bull**** you are kidding yourself with. So does she. It just hurts her more than it does you.
 

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SinJester said:
Basically it is not going to do you much good by trying to analyse the problem, which is what you are trying ti do by asking "what's the problem". It's not helping her at all. Cheer her up by showing her attention and love. Do something physical and spontaneous.
I think there lies my problem. I lack spontaneity.
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

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I think there lies my problem. I lack spontaneity.
your spontaneity... well hows her spontaneity?

you cheering her up... shouldn't she be cheerin you up?

you follow?

the only problem you have, is that your trippin over yourself tryna please this girl.
 

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Reading this variations of this story over and over again is lake watching old sitcoms on TV-Land. People get together (whether or not they are truly compatible), the both become complacent. The woman actually does something by saying that things aren't working, the guy gets afraid of being rejected so HE proposes breaking up without making any effort. He then posts on this site and hears that he should pretend as if nothing is wrong because for fear of making it worse (best to sustain a bad relationship by doing nothing because he's led to believe that men are incapable of fixing relationships :rolleyes: ).

It comes down to this; don't get into a relationship if you aren't willing to do what's necessary to sustain it. Spontaneity is only a small piece of the puzzle. Unless you are making an effort to do the things which sustain your connection with each other personally rather than just figure out new things to do with one another. Think about it, will either of you be able to find something new to do with one another every day? The two of you aren't interested in each other enough to just enjoy each other's company?

A relationship is a partnership. It takes both of you to make it work. Think of it like this, everything that you do (or don't do) will either help your relationship or help it; it's your choice what you chose to put into it. And if per chance your girl doesn't contribute what so ever you should ask yourself what made you choose to date her in the first place.
 

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I'd hate to be with woman with those expectations. Sh!t, I can't make anyone feel anything. It's something only they can do. She chooses to feel lost, down, confused, dependent, and insecure in the relationship. If she was totally secure with herself, she wouldn't rely on you to make her happy, she would let you add to the happiness she already has.

If I were you, I wouldn't even attempt to live up to her standards because they're too lofty. You need to let her know that she's going to have to find happiness within herself before she can be happy with you. If she choses not to and continues to blame you, you're going to have to cut her loose before it brings you down.

You need to surround yourself with positive people because if you don't you'll start thinking just like them. You seem to have it together, and I think you'll make the right choices.
 

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Personally, I think that she's at a stage of debating to herself what she wants. It's not so much what you want but what she wants. She's comparing you with other people.

I think it depends on you if you want to keep this relationship. Ask yourself, if this relationship is making YOU happy. The way she's been acting, is it making you feel any better? She's comparing dude. The only two things stopping her from moving to someone else is, 1. someone else hasn't come along. 2. you still have sentimental value. 3. she's afraid of jumping over the fence to the other side called "loneliness".

If this relationship is making you happy and you feel that you do want to have her versus out of need to keep her, then it's simple. Take some time off work and just go somewhere with her and leave everything behind and just enjoy life. If she wants to go with you or her interest in you is still high, she'll go. But if it's not, no matter what you do, is not going to change anything. 2. Walk to a mall, buy some nice clothes for yourself and start making a change in yourself. I know it sounds weird but do it. And start acting happy around her. When she's down or unhappy, just sit there and talk to her dude. Don't say anything or don't do anything. Just let her talk to you and remain silently quiet. Let her rant while you imagine a bikini model in your head. Keep you head clear from giving her any solution. Then, once she's done, just give her a hug. That's it.

If this relationship is NOT making you happy, as francisco says, you're simply not compatible. that's it. Forcing yourself to be with someone is like forcing yourself to fit through a small hole that you can't get through. No amount of positive thinking will get you through it. You simply don't fit.

I come to this site wanting to help people, funny thing is, i end up helping myself in the process. The solution had alwasy been within me. Funny thing is, I know all this stuff, yet I hung on to a relationship that never worked to begin with. This is such a great site!
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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If ANY woman on this Earth said ANY of these things to me:

-she feels that I lack initiative and effort, I'm this, I'm that.

-her heart says that something is wrong.

-She sometimes feel that I'm like a friend and not more. She expects a BF to be reliable, making her feel safe and calm. But I haven't met her standard yet.


And then had the nerve to follow it up with:

-Despite all that, she feels that I'm still irreplaceable in her heart for now. She loves no other man other than me.

I would tell then that her heart had better get busy replacing!

It's worth screaming,

FVCK ANY B!TCH WHO EVER TELLS YOU THAT YOU ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH

I cannot emphasize this enough. This was a big test, and you failed miserably. Your relationship may linger on like a festering sore, but it will never be one in which you have the power as long as you keep failing this test.

The instant a woman even begins to tell you that you are not good enough for her, cut off with "ok, it's been fun!" and march right out of her life. If there is any hope of good relationship, then she will run after you.
 

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Great post Bible Belt and it is very true in most cases.

I say most cases because if you read Fela Kuti's post history he has had a destructive relationship with this chick for a very long time now.

I think in the case of them both they are co-dependants too afraid they won't get anyone else so they cling to eachother.

This relationship could last forever if I am right about both of them but there won't be much happiness in it as time goes on.
 

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Fela Kuti said:
Everytime my GF is upset or in a bad mood, I always seem lost for words. I can't say anything beside the usual "what's wrong?" which she usually answers with "I don't know" or "nothing".


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OK, so finally she opened up to me. This is the essence of what she said:

-She's been upset these last couple of days. Because she feels that I lack initiative and effort, I'm this, I'm that.
-Logically she feels this relationship is fine, but her heart says that something is wrong.
-She sometimes feel that I'm like a friend and not more. She expects a BF to be reliable, making her feel safe and calm. But I haven't met her standard yet.
-Despite all that, she feels that I'm still irreplaceable in her heart for now. She loves no other man other than me.

When I told her that maybe it's time for us to split, she said that she didn't want to breakup yet. She said all of those things so we can correct what's wrong. I'm so damn confused right now. I still love her, but I have a slight doubt that I'm not gonna meet her standard. What's your advice, guys?
Sounds like you don't love her that much since you suggested the split. If she's getting bored because its the same thing over and over with you, she may have a point. You might want to step up the surprises and be adventurous. If you are doing that and you are happy, but she still feels something is wrong, disappear for a while and let her do all the work in contacting you.

The most important thing, IMHO, is that you have to be happy with where you are in the relationship and come to terms with yourself.
 

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Mavrick said:
If I were you, I wouldn't even attempt to live up to her standards because they're too lofty. You need to let her know that she's going to have to find happiness within herself before she can be happy with you. If she choses not to and continues to blame you, you're going to have to cut her loose before it brings you down.
That's what I've been thinking, brother.
 

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dannyegg4575 said:
I think it depends on you if you want to keep this relationship. Ask yourself, if this relationship is making YOU happy. The way she's been acting, is it making you feel any better? She's comparing dude. The only two things stopping her from moving to someone else is, 1. someone else hasn't come along. 2. you still have sentimental value. 3. she's afraid of jumping
I've been generally happy in this relationship. But when she brings up things like this, it makes me wonder whether this relationship is worth continuing.
 
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