I don’t want to „game“ women anymore

[Baibars]

I don’t want to game women anymore that don’t show high interest initially no matter if it’s on OLD or IRL.
I used to do anything to get laid but I have enough of it and the desperation I once had is gone.
If I match with someone and they don’t show enough interest I’m out.
Let me hear your how you deal with women.
Am I being too arrogant?

 

[Dr.Suave]

Life´s too short to pursue girls with low interest.

 

[BPH]

Nobody's gonna fall into your lap, man.

You shouldn't have to convince anybody to like you, but you shouldn't expect them to have high interest when you haven't given them a reason either.

 

[Gamisch]

I don’t want to game women anymore that don’t show high interest initially no matter if it’s on OLD or IRL.
I used to do anything to get laid but I have enough of it and the desperation I once had is gone.
If I match with someone and they don’t show enough interest I’m out.
Let me hear your how you deal with women.
Am I being too arrogant?

That's like saying: I don't want to work with people anymore. It's unavoidable. It's a part of life.

Ofcourse the game is broken. But it's still nature, and nature has his funny ways to straighten what's crooked. You gotta readjusted your expectations and goals .

We ALL struggle to some degree. We ALL want that happy warm family. But even without it you gotta be the head of your ( future) family. Hypothetically you could meet your future wife next Saturday. The more work you put in, the bigger the chances of actually being successful. In other words: don't wait for a woman to carry you if you refuse to carry your damn self.

I know it's difficult, and personally I also have my ups and downs. But I always remember that NOBODY cares if you resign. Simultaneously everyone cares if you go places.

Be that one man army.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

So what you are saying is you want to put in no effort and have pvssy rain from the sky?

Good luck with that one.

There is some level of "game" needed in almost any interaction with women of you want it to lead anywhere other than the friendzone unless the chick is dying to suck your d!ck.

And usually that only happens when they are well beneath you SMV wise and they know it.

Life is a competition from getting a job to sports to women. If you don't want to compete anymore then I'm not sure what else to tell you other than good luck.

 

[pipeman84]

I don’t want to game women anymore that don’t show high interest initially no matter if it’s on OLD or IRL.
I used to do anything to get laid but I have enough of it and the desperation I once had is gone.
If I match with someone and they don’t show enough interest I’m out.
Let me hear your how you deal with women.
Am I being too arrogant?

More likely it's a sign that you're more mature now rather than too arrogant. Only immature and/or guys with low self respect are into gaming women, which is an euphemism for pvssy begging.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Am I being too arrogant?

No. While I can’t in good faith recommend marriage with family court laws and the divorce industry as they stand (I am married), one reason people get married is so they can build a life together and have a fulfilling, hopefully lifelong relationship together in which their own desires are kept in check and they form bonds with other people and have children versus undue jestermaxxing and gaming.

You can have an LTR if you like to avoid undue jestermaxxing and gaming. Being a lifelong jestermaxxer requires great effort and time.

 

[SW15]

Men need elements of "game" to not only attract women but to remain women in relationships.

Screening for high interest is good but it isn't a substitute for having elements of game.

 

[Chow Mein]

Seems like frustration that all of us go through in phases.

Try building genuine non-communal relationships with your partners. You’ll have on-demand sex without commitment and they will support you when you need help.

 

[The Duke]

I don’t want to game women anymore that don’t show high interest initially no matter if it’s on OLD or IRL.
I used to do anything to get laid but I have enough of it and the desperation I once had is gone.
If I match with someone and they don’t show enough interest I’m out.
Let me hear your how you deal with women.
Am I being too arrogant?

There are still some elements of "game" needed to keep women attracted, no matter how long you have been with them. They are fickle creatures. However, I think every man gets tired of the amount of effort it takes with some of them and especially when its not reciprocated. When you experience this, its almost always an indicator of low interest level. There was a time I would drive an hour to meet some new girl if I thought I could get easy sex. I for sure won't do that nowdays, its too much risk for the reward.

Now, you didn't explain what you meant by "they don't show enough interest"...does that mean if you ask her out the first two times, then she should ask you out the next two times? Or if you called her, then you expect her to call you next time? If you expect it to be this way then you don't understand women well enough.

As long as she is saying yes to your plans, and continues to communicate then she is interested. There are some that you will have to initiate everything in the beginning, but it doesn't mean they aren't interested.

 

[plumber]

I don’t want to game women anymore that don’t show high interest initially no matter if it’s on OLD or IRL.
I used to do anything to get laid but I have enough of it and the desperation I once had is gone.
If I match with someone and they don’t show enough interest I’m out.
Let me hear your how you deal with women.
Am I being too arrogant?

Do other stuff you enjoy. Get better at that "stuff". Its nice when women like you for what you like, as well as all the other reasons. Game then becomes mostly just not being a jerk and paying attention to what's going on.

The "high quality" women don't spend much time on OLD. They busy doing what they love. Having time for OLD is a sure indicator of focus being on getting women or getting men (for women). If they focused on that, its clear they don't have something else going that is really going.

If someone is on old they either looking for higher SMV than what they are or they looking for a a hook up only. No one goes on old looking for the same ones that generally approach them all the time.

No, not arrogant. Its only arrogant if telling others they are messed up for doing it.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I don’t want to game women anymore that don’t show high interest initially no matter if it’s on OLD or IRL.
I used to do anything to get laid but I have enough of it and the desperation I once had is gone.
If I match with someone and they don’t show enough interest I’m out.
Let me hear your how you deal with women.
Am I being too arrogant?

Women have adapted and like to appear as high interest these days when they are lukewarm. I not only lean hard on screening, but I do so with a standardized format so I can suss out the pretenders more easily.

The name of the game in 2024 is sussing out pretenders.

 

[Learning Curve]

I don’t want to game women anymore that don’t show high interest initially no matter if it’s on OLD or IRL.
I used to do anything to get laid but I have enough of it and the desperation I once had is gone.
If I match with someone and they don’t show enough interest I’m out.
Let me hear your how you deal with women.
Am I being too arrogant?

Is like saying "i want to remove the grind from life" then you simply remove life.

It is what it is, you will have to go through a phase for each section of your life each time that you don't like.

Embrace it and don't try to avoid it.

 

[The Diver]

I don’t want to game women anymore that don’t show high interest initially no matter if it’s on OLD or IRL.
I used to do anything to get laid but I have enough of it and the desperation I once had is gone.
If I match with someone and they don’t show enough interest I’m out.
Let me hear your how you deal with women.
Am I being too arrogant?

"I don’t want to „game“ women anymore"

At some point and after a good dose of knowledge and experience, you don't need to play game anymore, YOU are the game.

 

[jamesfromhouston]

What would you guys say is the "fundamentals" of game?

If you could list it down, what would they be?

 

[BaronOfHair]

I used to do anything to get laid...

Which was a fatal error, and one that nobody who's ever written on attraction and mating has encouraged men to perpetrate

You're similar to the job applicant who regales the interviewer with tales of how desperate they are for any gig they can acquire, and in doing so disqualifies themselves in the eyes of the interviewer. Those without firm standards aren't reliable

 

[CornbreadFed]

welcome to your late twenties/30s.

 

[zekko]

Nobody's gonna fall into your lap, man.

You shouldn't have to convince anybody to like you, but you shouldn't expect them to have high interest when you haven't given them a reason either.

It's a thin line to walk, for sure.

By the way, sometimes women will fall into your lap, but it doesn't happen often enough to make it satisfying. At least not for me. Maybe for some.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

So what you are saying is you want to put in no effort and have pvssy rain from the sky?

Good luck with that one.

There is some level of "game" needed in almost any interaction with women of you want it to lead anywhere other than the friendzone unless the chick is dying to suck your d!ck.

And usually that only happens when they are well beneath you SMV wise and they know it.

Life is a competition from getting a job to sports to women. If you don't want to compete anymore then I'm not sure what else to tell you other than good luck.

yeah for all time, only women get **** falling in their lap, not the other way around

 

[Isildur1]

Dating coach Liam McRae who’s now married to a model wrote in his books that volume was the key to his success - hed often have 5-6 bad dates in a row sometimes followed by 3-4 lays in a row

bad dates , blow outs and flakes are all part and parcel of the process - you shouldn’t let it beat you down into inaction because it happens to everyone