I believe the 10% rule must be revised

[floydb25]

Alright, THAT I can see being a problem. When I talk about skinny - I dont mean being a twig. In shape is the best term, I think. 155-160 lbs with very little fat and some muscle, at that height. Especially broad shoulders, and a decent mid section. A chest that pops out reasonably when you suck your gut in (oh yes, this works greatly). They also love a nice ass, but only if you have one... Just another thing for them to go ga ga over, if available. This part I dont get, as far as genes... No one but me in the family has an ass. Whatever.

 

[Zarky]

I'm referring to the particular cultural/psychological/media phenomenon for which girls get much more aroused and turned on from exercising power and rejecting men than actually enjoy them.

Umm.. care to point to any examples of this "phenomenon?"

 

[jammer]

gentlemen, please... order in the Congress! Way too much emphasis is being placed on skinny guys here, and that's not the point. The point is to emphasize that women seek and desire top 10 percenters, but invariably end up with scumbags and douchebags.

We took out the term skinny out of the proposed amendment to the new rule in order to avoid this problem. Using the word in the first place was not to single out skinny pretty boys for hatred and contempt, it was merely recognizing the fact that women seem to naturally end up with slim guys as opposed to guys who are overweight tubbalards.

 

[user43770]

u mad Tony?

lol

keep watching faggot maybe you'll learn something :crackup:

Burroughs, I don't know that I've ever seen you post anything helpful - just conspiracy theory bullsh1t.

And you're always so quick to call somebody a fag. Do you even have any real world experience with women? I certainly haven't seen you post it.

 

[user43770]

Woe is me around here. All the time.

 

[Burroughs]

Woe is me around here. All the time.

u mad meatstick?

Just because you are too stupid to understand wisdom doesn't mean I haven't provided it

You crybaby homos will make some woman a nice wife oneday

 

[( . )( . )]

Umm.. care to point to any examples of this "phenomenon?"

um ok

Ummm like OMG wow...just wow.

Snarky still trolling as a 37 year old man and slipping I see.

 

[user43770]

u mad meatstick?

Just because you are too stupid to understand wisdom doesn't mean I haven't provided it

You crybaby homos will make some woman a nice wife oneday

Some of us try to provide helpful advice based on real world experience. Others, such as yourself, regurgitate the same tired "wisdom" that I suppose makes you feel enlightened. Like you're somehow better than everyone else.

"Crybaby homos" are at least out trying and failing; you stand by and take solace in your enlightenment. Probably with your d1ck in your hand.

It absolutely amazes me that more people don't call you on your goddamned conspiracy bullsh1t.

 

[( . )( . )]

Honestly think Burroughs might be two different posters. I mean I have to give credit where it's due. There are the rare times when he genuinely posts incredibly insightful comments, on a level similar to Rollo Tommassi. It's a shame the other 99% of his posts are flame wars and posts on the 'phaggot' takeover of America.

To be fair it's only the same 3 or 4 posters who seem to get sand their vagina's over Burroughs's truthful bluntness. Nobody else seems to whine like a school girl. Personally I'd take a hundred of Burroughs posts over 1 of yours declaring how great for society our current obsession with homo's is or how great the obumma gimmiedats are.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Umm.. care to point to any examples of this "phenomenon?"

What about any girl power magazine or some "modern girl" forum? is that enough or we have to move to commercials and tv shows?

 

[Burroughs]

You guys are so mad

What? Did your unemployment stop? :cuss:

The only people who cry about my words are clueless faggots

But if you want to remain clueless meatsticks all your lives have fun with that :crackup:

 

[nismo-4]

u mad Tony?

lol

keep watching faggot maybe you'll learn something :crackup:

Order in the court!

I'm not gonna worry about all this math and stats bullsh*t. I'm about to tell it like it is.

All women want a guy in the top 10%. A lot of them think that there's an abundance of muscular millionaires driving maseratis, thanks to the media. Women have more entitlement issues than ever before.

Like Burroughs said, looks get you in the door. Money, status, and personality keeps said girl.

Think about this: Why do women have the bulk of the choosing power? Because male choice is rarely enforced, but female choice is almost always enforced. A woman has to initiate sex, and she has to initiate a relationship. If a man tries to initiate it, it has no effect. Society dictates that as long as the woman has the vagina and there's a group of guys who want it, she has the power.

Things that don't help men's situation is the overgrowing crowd of desperate males and growth of PUA book sales. What's game when everybody's using it? Exactly, giving the women more power and inflating their value! Even HB1's have lots of options.

10% of the guys get the best women, and the bottom 90 is fighting over scraps, while said scraps are still going for the top 10%. It's the same with online dating!

 

[Poonani Maker]

^^ all I know is, with all these hoes rejecting or "overlooking" me, not being able to see true value, I will be a rich muther fer one day. Sure, I've rejected Many after fvcking them once or twice, but the, like you said, hb6 and up who don't stick with me jumping on another c0ck eventually, are doing nothing more than making me, a well-to-do man, a future millionaire cause she's gonna have to suck my toes and be to my specs physically and attitude-wise for me to take care of her for life, and those are rare in the first place: attitude of worship and agree with most of what I say + being good looking. I don't know HOW any dude can even Think to have and to hold one for a lifetime when soooo few are adequate in possessing Attitude + physique.face. I'll be forever hard-pressed to have and to hold just one, cause while once I find that attitude + look-I-like, we MAY hit it off and ride it a while but it almost ALWAYS ends up with her failing me in the end, her Seeking greener pastures. That's ok, I become richer...I'm gonna have one heck of a retirement thanks to these cluesless lessers hoes who continue to fail me by cheating.giving me sh!t/drama...they'd better wake up! and start worshiping the ground that I walk on (as with in the old days) or I'm gonna have the most luxurious ornate casket anyone's ever seen!

 

[DonGorgon]

I played around with a spreadsheet for a few minutes to generate some rough figures.

Let's say that half of all women are HB0, a quarter are HB1, an eighth are HB2, and so on. That's 1.76 billion HB0s, 882 million HB1s, and on to 1.7 million HB10s. My experience is that greater beauty is more rare, so this seems to make sense as a rough approximation.

Or count it the other way: 1.7 million HB10s, 3.4 million HB9s, 6.9 million HB8s, and so on.

Even without the absolute numbers, just looking at the ratio of HB10s to the rest of women, it's a no-brainer. For every HB10 there are 2,046 less-attractive women. OK. So let's crunch the numbers on down the scale.

For every HB9+ there are 681 less-attractive women.
For every HB8+ there are 291 lesser.
For every HB7+ there are 135 lesser.
For every HB6+ there are 65 lesser.
For every HB5+ there are 31 lesser.
For every HB4+ there are 15 lesser.
For every HB3+ there are 7 lesser.
For every HB2+ there are 3 lesser.
For every HB1+ there is one less-attractive woman, which is approximately the same as the original premise.

A startling pattern emerges. There are NOT as many HB1-to-5s as HB6-to-10s. Half of women are NOT in the upper half of the rating system. To the contrary: less than 2% are HB6 and higher. And, according to our original premise, there are as many HB6s as there are HB7+. If you go after only HB6+, 50% of the women you bag will be bare-minimum HB6. This will be true for whatever minimum you set: half the women you choose will barely meet your minimum standards.

An average-looking HB4 is in the upper 8% of feminine beauty. Even a middle-aged HB2 warpig is in the upper 25% of attractiveness.

Maybe it's overstating the rarity of beauty to say that there are only half as many women for every +1 in the scale. Maybe the correct ratio is not as steep. But I think it is. Men tend to ignore old women and children. We notice the ****tail waitress, but don't even think about the hag in the back running the dishwasher.

Regardless of the actual ratio, women compete with other women. Everything else aside, an HB1 is more attractive and more rare than an HB0. Understanding female entitlement in a hypergamous society could be as simple as crunching the numbers. The horrible fat c0ck carouser sure looks ugly to you, and there are hundreds of millions of women as ugly, but she beats out half the women. She made the upper half. That's all that matters to her.

great post really great BUT... sad reality is that many many men actually do **** uglies and fatties some do it in secrete and some actually marry these women.. male desperation knows no bounds and very few men will turn Down a sexually willing women no matter how ugly she is

 

[DonGorgon]

I have 4 on my team now..

18 year old HB7 with a 10 body
19 year old HB9 with a 8 body
22 year old HB 7 with a 7 body
26 year old HB6 with a 11 body

these days thats a very good spread for an average dude ..they are all have 100s of dudes chasing them all the time.. they have way more options than i could ever have,

 

[Down Low]

great post really great BUT... sad reality is that many many men actually do **** uglies and fatties some do it in secrete and some actually marry these women.. male desperation knows no bounds and very few men will turn Down a sexually willing women no matter how ugly she is

Worse still, they appease, supplicate, and take abuse for pvssy.

I redid the spreadsheet. Instead of 11 levels (0 to 10), I used 10 levels (0.0 to 0.9 1.0 to 1.9, ...and on to... 9.0 to 9.9). There are so many perfect zeroes, and so few perfect tens, I felt justified in not having any 10.0 on the scale.

I adjusted the male and female ratios of scarcity with increasing beauty. Using 1/1.5 made HB9+ 1 out of 113 women, and 1/1.25 made MB9+ 1 out of 33 men. Here's the dividing line of the top 10%:

MB8 and up . . . 6.77% of men
MB7 and up . . 11.47% of men

...as compared to...

HB6 and up . . . 7.17% of women
HB5 and up . . 11.64% of women

An MB5 is still in the upper 25% of men. So a man who's just a little better than ordinary could improve himself into the upper 20% if not higher.

To sum up, the concepts we banter around make sense not only in real life, but can be demonstrated in spreadsheet form.

 

[Down Low]

A couple more interesting points.

With the above ratios, MB0 and MB1 count for 40.33% of all men. That's interesting when you recall that only 60% of men reproduce. The MB0s and MB1s are not the non-breeders; all men are zeroes when children and very old. Rather, think of it as a snapshot of current society. Think of MB0s and MB1s as the males who aren't reproducing right now. They're jacking off to porn. (If you're jacking off to porn, you're functionally a MB0 no matter how good looking you falsely believe yourself to be.)

That means any man who is currently a MB2, has or will reproduce in his lifetime. Granted, he's probably fvcking a HB0 right now. (Don't let this be you.)

The surplus of men is certainly due to social and economic factors. Having said this...

If all the unattractive people paired up for life when they were at the proper age and at their peak of attractiveness, and we counted the cumulative excess starting at the bottom rather than the top, the only excess would be top-tier MB9+ men. And that would be no problem for them. Gadabouts and playboys never had any problem with sloppy seconds. They never had to develop any standards -- women are always throwing themselves at pretty boys. Rather, their promiscuity has always been a problem for the rest of us.

DonGorgon, you'll find this interesting. If we think of surplus men in terms of promiscuity, here's the tabulation:

current number of sex partners
HB women men
9 . . . 12 . . . 4
8 . . . . 9 . . . 3
7 . . . . 7 . . . 3
6 . . . . 5 . . . 2
5 . . . . 4 . . . 2
4 . . . . 3 . . . 2
3 . . . . 2 . . . 1
2 . . . . 2 . . . 1
1 . . . . 1 . . . 1
0 . . . . 1 . . . 0

 

[Burroughs]

Good stuff down low as usual

A way to simplify this.....the 3 point HB adjustment

An hb 5 woman has the same options or more as a hb 8 guy

Thats why hb 9-10 women are so wound up....they are looking for that mythical hb 11-12 guy...ie the handsome billionaire brad pitt to live up to their delusional standards of what they deserve.

In the real world this is what astounds and discourages most men....they may start off at 5s with a small belly..work hard..diet, lift weights turn themselves into hb7 or 8s even get a six pack...guess what the hotties at their level DONT GIVE A FVCK...so men wonder what all the work is for if all they get is fuglies and fatties even if they are hb7-8

 

[floydb25]

Burr:

Pretty much. Thats why you bang and forget high class *****es. No one can live up to their rediculous standards; being very good looking is just a pre-requisite for them. Its expected.

But, they **** themselves in the end - because many a hot people are garbage. And, this is who they weed through (at least initially) - only to encounter the same kind of people over and over. They never find nice + hot + exciting + rich + funny + kiss my ass. Instead, they get hot + shallow + conceited + selfish + stuck up + mean + unfaithful + immature + ha ha ha, *****es... Kind of like themselves, eh?

Most of them just end up using anyone and everyone they can, for whatever services they can provide - after they realize Mr. Perfect doesnt exist - while *****ing and complaining about how unfair their lives are.

These are generally the 8s and up. They have tons of options and huge ego's, and so, can afford to be stuck up, mean, picky, bratty, loud, annoying, fake, etc. They dont believe in settling, always expect the best of everything, lose interest and jump to the next guy in a flash, are always searching for the BBD, treat people like objects, must always get their way, believe to be some kind of unique artifact / Godess to be treasured / worshipped, are always focusing on OTHER people as it relates to character flaws and their selfish interests... Cant stand 'em.

This is why I dont believe in sticking within your league, or aiming too high, or whatever the case may be... In other words, just because you CAN land a hottie - doesnt mean you SHOULD. Also, watch out for the notties - as they are the same way - without the hotness. So, 100% useless.

Cute and nice all the way, suckas. :box: