I assure you my family is more screwed up than yours

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wow.


I don't even know where to begin.

Alot like Tony Soprano, I have a screwed up family, but I try to patch work it all together for the sake of my son and my sister. It did not take me getting shot by my uncle to realize that that is not going to work anymore.

A little background: My mom is a religious nutt. big time. The older I have gotten the more coo coo for cocoa puffs she has gotten. I dealt with it when i was young and lived with her, I did not have a choice. But once i moved out i made my own decisions. I don't believe in god. I'm not militant or anything like that, I'm just not religious.

anyway, it all started going downhill when I was 19. She found out. My company was going, t the time when I first started my first company, some very hard financial times and I needed to move back in for some relief. normal entrapernuer things. She told me no, that unless I would accept god again that i was not allowed in the house. So i lived in a car. I never forgot that. We patched things up, i would be civil and she is my mother, but we would play this game, we don't talk, then we do talk, i come visit, she tries to get me to go to church, i don't, we don't talk.

That's nice and all but i have a 9 year old sister. I have spoken about her before. I don't like her diet habits and even more I don't like the extreme religion she's being raised around. As a guy I know just how attractive that is to another guy. not very. I don't see much good coming out of it. But that's not my place, she is my sister and i would like for her to keep in touch.

Anyway, my son can half talk now and I call my sister up to let her speak to her nephew, she likes to talk to him. so I call her cell phone, she has her own, and my mother picks up the phone, I'm like okay put my sister on the phone. She asks me have I accepted god, and I say no.. she says than until I do, dont' call back. ever.

My mom could burn in hell with gasoline underwear on and I would not sheed a tear.. she has done more harm tahn good to me and alot of issues I had with women are becuase of her, and my life was alot tougher becuase of her, me having to unlearn alot of thigns I was brought up to believe. But my sister. damn that's a low blow.

Even then, I don't get irrate, I don't cruse, I don't get mad, dont' rise my voice, I chuckle and tell her well i respect her decision and i hope she changes her mind and hang up the phone.


Now, my mother turns into basically an EX i just nexted, and she blows up my phone like 5 times yesterday morning, all which i ignored. i'm done. It's very sad my sister is caught in the cross-hairs, but I am not going back into that ****. I moved to California for a reason.

Anyway, my dad and i have a pretty decent relationship. we dont' talk often but when we do it's about something. so when he calls i knew somehting was up. So i pick up the phone and he asks me why i am cursing out my mother. I'm like look dad.. i'm not 10 anymore and you aren't going to call me accusing me of things like that without asking my side of the story. you know me better than that and moreso you know my mother better than that. Anyway, long story short, my mom had called my dad and told him,l to get him "on her side" that i had cursed her out and was yelling at her.

My dad and I dont' talk.. this is what pisses me about aobut my dad, a totally different situation. he doesn't bother to try to keep up with his son (me), then when he calls, tries to give me advice on how to live my life. He tells me "ever since you started doing drugs you have went down hill" i'm like dad that was ****ing 4 years ago! i have a ****ing 5 year anniversary coming up". Here a man, who has tried to fvck 2 of his son's girlfriends, one his fiancee, telling his son he is going downhill.

And i'm not one to pass judgement, lord knows i'm not perfect. But i dont' call anyone and dish out random ass advice. when he needed a place to stay becuase of the things he did to his wife and she kicked him out i didn't say two words, i cleared out the extra room and gave it to him. all i've dnoe is be a good son, to both of them and get ****ted on and pissed on becuase of it.

wow. glad i got that off my chest.

they can both go to hell for all i care, wont' be visiting arkansas any time soon and I don't care how wrong i am for saying it.
 

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Damn.. even most people I know wouldn't but god above letting their own son live in a house...I hope you do end up talking to your sister more one day
 

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Parents are the #1 reason kids (and then adults) are f*cked up.

Seek therapy if you haven't yet.
 

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HOLY SHYT!!!!! Man that is rough!!! I believe in God and pray, but far from a fanatic. The God loving person would allow you to move in, period!

You acknowledge the wackedness and that is why I wouldn't think you need therapy. I just hope you have a good friend that is willing to help you. If I were near you and got to know you, that would be me, the good friend that would help.

I have a twin brother and he believes like you do. Back when I was more into religion, I would talk to him about it, but never would I do to him as your SORRY a$$ mother!!! Please accept my apology for saying that. But I have no tolerance in mother's doing their kids that way. My mom died from pancreatic cancer at age 45, I was 25, and she was my JOY!! I loved her more than the world.

Good luck man and keep strong. Only you know if therapy is needed.
 

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Yho, that is one situation you are in. I believe in God and as children of God we are to show love to non believers as well and not to chase them out. I hope she realizes that one day.

All the best
 

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Dude. You get props. I would rep you but apparently I have repped you way to many times. Stay strong brother.
 

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Sounds similar to my family:
Mum: Religious pyscho, definetly BPD, really makes life hell for my whole family, could have been really fvcked up if i listened to her nutty religious beliefs.
Dad: Typical AFC with no backbone to stand up to his wife, works all day everyday, clever but not successful, placates mum by letting her have her way. Did not bother to try and teach me any of life's lessons so I had to find out the hard way
Brother: Asexual socially retarded

Though they think they have my best interests at heart, they actually subconciously try and drag me down to their level.
 

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the older i get the more i dont' blame my dad for cheating on my mom when i was a kid. hell if i could cheat on my mom with a new mom i would.
 

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Have you talked to a psychiatrist yet? This board is fine to vent on, but you need to go DEEPER and you don't want to air your dirty laundry here. Do it this week, seriously.
 

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backbreaker said:
hell if i could cheat on my mom with a new mom i would.
That is very funny, but also rather tragic.

BB I am sure that you know the standard advice preached by Al Anon - detachment from another's crazy behavior. There is your answer and your solution.

I understand how difficult it is to do that when they continue to find ways of dragging you back into their insanity. And I know, from personal experience, how EXPERT they are at setting traps, but the only healthy option that you have is detachment from their behavior.
The way to install this process in your life is to start small.
Learn to say "no thanks" to a few of their small demands and work up to the larger issues.
And remember that any changes that you make for self improvement or self preservation are going to be met with poison and hate and anger. But make those changes anyway . Your emotional survival (and your sobriety) depends on it .

Good luck brother.
 

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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” - Ghandi

I just read this quote today and thought "So True". I think this applies to your mom.

GL man.
 

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backbreaker said:
Alot like Tony Soprano, I have a screwed up family
Well haven't you seen that episode where Tony Soprano applied the wisdom of his psychatrist by making his uncle the boss thus making him believe that he was in control of everthing when in actuality he wasnt?!

What's the worst that can happen if you tell your mom "yes I have accepted Jesus into my life and I attend church every sunday" if that would at least help keep the peace between the two of you's where you can actually interact with your sister wouldn't that be worth it?!
 

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yes later in that season that same uncle conspired to have him killed (with his own damn mother for crying out loud), and then shot him in the kitchen in season 6 and came within minutes of killing him.

The entire damn series Carmilla told Tony that he was a POS and that he should cut him out of his life, and in the end she won.

lol if I could get a degree in sopranology or something like that i'd go back to school just for that.

alot of my drug use stemmed from "sucking it up" for her.

funny I moved to the blow capital of the world and without seeing her have no urge whatsoever to use and haven't for years.

she can her holy book can stuff it.

jophil is spot on and like i said if it were not for my sister i would not shed a tear if i never saw the woman again.
 

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All I can say is you sure know what not to do with your kids.Your kids SHOULD be even better than you are-they won't have to crawl out of the hole [your parents dug for you] before they run the race of life. I'm sure you will be proud when they exceed your accomplishments,but we'll both know who put them on the track with the right shoes for the race.

Dr Laura has a book on unhappy childhood,happy life[something like that-too lazy to get it][reading it to see if my sons should],may be OK to read,but I think you've already figured out 9/10 of the book.
 

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"Holding a grudge is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies."

- Nelson Mandela

Be careful.
 

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not talking to your mother becuase she won't talk to you unless you accept god is not a grudge.

even though she did what she did when i was younger i don't have a gruge about it.. but it's no different than dating, you date someone that ****s you over, if i decide i don't want anything to do with this low character person anymore that's not a grudge, that's moving on with life.
 

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Of course, if she really was a Christian she would welcome you into the house and use the times you were there to demonstrate the Christian life, not primarily through words but rather through actions. We must always be very careful to remember that just because someone says, "I'm a Christian" doesn't in any way make them one. Jesus said, "By their fruits you will know them", "them" being His followers.

Many, many mentally unbalanced people claim a [false] association with Jesus Christ, as do authentic believers. To go around hating Christianity because one observes the many insane and unbalanced people who claim the name of Jesus, while completely ignoring the authentic people who claim the name of Jesus, is a logical absurdity but all too common.

I'm not saying your mom is insane, BB. She does have a faulty understanding of Christianity, to say the least. I hope she gains a better understanding somehow and starts to realize how she has alienated you.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
Of course, if she really was a Christian she would welcome you into the house and use the times you were there to demonstrate the Christian life, not primarily through words but rather through actions. We must always be very careful to remember that just because someone says, "I'm a Christian" doesn't in any way make them one. Jesus said, "By their fruits you will know them", "them" being His followers.

Many, many mentally unbalanced people claim a [false] association with Jesus Christ, as do authentic believers. To go around hating Christianity because one observes the many insane and unbalanced people who claim the name of Jesus, while completely ignoring the authentic people who claim the name of Jesus, is a logical absurdity but all too common.

I'm not saying your mom is insane, BB. She does have a faulty understanding of Christianity, to say the least. I hope she gains a better understanding somehow and starts to realize how she has alienated you.
i'll say it for you. she flew over the coo coo's next and then made a u turn

my mother, from what i know of her and that's alot, she is my mom.. is very unbalanced.

This is what happens to people who listen to nothing but gospel radio stations and do nothing but go to church all day every day and do nothing but read Christan books and watch Christan TV, you gain a wrapped sense of reality.

to her, what she did not only made perfect sense, it was the right thing to do.

the last time i was over her house, around Christmas with my son visiting, i saw she had on her frig she had this quote "if a man turns you down, know that god still loves you". i got a chuckle out of that.

nothing gay or anything or whatever, my mom is an attractive 44 year old woman who works out everyday. last time i saw her she couldn't have been over 130-135 and she's 5'6. She's not a health nut but works out everyday. she should have no trouble having suitable men line up to date her yet she lives by herself. she was married to a very religious guy who after a year basically said "fvck this, you got's to get your own place".

no one, not my dad, not men she has dated, not her ex husband, my sister's dad wants no part of her, i mean they are civil becuase of my sister but not on that level.. not happenin. not me, wants to deal with her ****. you would think she caught on by now.


no, that's not what happens. what people like that do, is they just dive deeper into the book, deeper into religion.. this is what has been going on and this scares me more than anythign for my sister. poor baby.

I remember when i was little, my mom busted her ass at work. she was always religious.. I remember her listening to amway tapes and her installing in me that i could do anything i put my mind to. making me listen to dexter yager in the car everyday, going out at 8 9 at night to owrk becuase she had a dream she wanted to persue...but something, what i don't know, over the last 6 or 7 years took it into over drive.

now if everything doesn't go her way it's "god's plan" and she leaves it at that. instead of busting her ass she'd rather sit around and read a religious book.

my mom seriously, does not have one non religious book in her house. not one besides my sister's school books.

When i was a kid, my mom every other week on Friday's , I'd even look forward to it, she would take me to the library and encourage me to get 2-3 books and she'd quiz me on them to make sure i was reading. that's why i read as much as I do now.

it's really sad what has happened.. but it is what it is.
 
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