I asked my gf what she thought of cubic zirconium..

[librito]

I don't know what to say about the diamonds.

Surely there is some way of buying a 'clean' diamond at a much marked up price, kind of like buying American made.




But I really don't understand all the marriage-bashing in this thread. I would be quite content being married to the right girl.

the problem is, youll never know if your wife is the right one for you.
why? because she could cheat, divorce you, in a week, one decade or two decades and then take half your stuff plus alimony.
diamonds last forever but marriages most times dont last 10 years.

 

[Bible_Belt]

You guys who think a girl is going to marry you with a CZ ring are just dreaming. That is a way to be eternally single.

It is impossible for anyone on sosuave to start a thread about a girl and the consensus advice not be "Next!!!" I would urge anyone in a real relationship to not follow the advice here. A lot of guys on here are jaded and angry at women and it comes through in the ridiculous advice they give.

Buy a diamond secondhand if their value drops so much. Ebay is better than CZ. There are also man-made diamonds that are not CZ and very hard to tell apart from the real thing; they fool some jewelers. Those are ok; just don't tell her.

btw, I have been married. I had no money for a ring, so we just didn't buy one - or a wedding. If a girl is into you, it does not matter. But even I knew then not to insult a girl with CZ.

 

[Alexander the Great]

You guys who think a girl is going to marry you with a CZ ring are just dreaming.

BB, no disrespect, but that's the most AFC statement I've read on my entire two year presence here on this forum. If you're not joking around, I don't think you really get the point of most posts.

If your girl would like a nice ring, hey, you don't have to be an a-hole by deying it altogether. Rings are what girls like, after all. No harm in celebrating the "matrimony" with a token you know she'll appreciate and to remember it by.

If, however she INSISTS on something, especially when "something" is a $3000,- dollar ring while YOU think that's bullsh*t and rather buy her a $300,- one which is also very beautiful but just doesn't has real diamonds on it, or a very small one, or another stone altogether, then you're simply with the WRONG woman. A woman who places monetary value on your being together. As if she would feel your union to be less worthy if she feels cheated everytime she looks at her not-so-expensive ring or fake diamond.

Is that really what you want to marry, gentlemen? Unless of course that's your kind of woman.

Now, if you are desperate to get married and not be single, hey, then by all means dump the contents of your wallet in the dust bin and hand it all over for some shiney trinket that'll still look nice on her when her corpse is rotting in the ground or burning in the oven. A trinket with which she can fool herself: "Oh, it's so shiney and expensive, he must love me so MUCH!" Or if you're into diamonds and expensive trinkets yourself, and you have the money, then feel free to hand them out as you please of course.

Just don't make people think that you get girls to marry unless you get them something that's "real" because that's what she must have? What's less real about a non-diamond ring to symbolize your bond?

If you feel you want to get her a real diamond, or the most expensive ring, because you really, genuinely want to, that's one thing and alright I guess. If however the lady feels entitled to the real thing, or something expensive, that's one thing wrong altogether. It's manipulation. It's also manipulation to think that you can't get a girl to marry you without a real diamond. You are manipulating them and, most of all, you are being manipulated yourself. By culture. It shows how brainwashed you really are. I thought we were above that sort of nonsense here on SS.

Jading and hate of women has nothing to do with this. You said it yourself: "If a girl is into you, it does not matter."

If she fails that test, then...

 

[Maxtro]

Yeah trying to give her a CZ is just lame. It's nothing more then a fake diamond. You don't have to get her an expensive rock, just one that is real. A man made diamond seems like a good idea.

Honestly though I wouldn't want to give somebody a diamond at all. If she has light colored eyes (anything but brown) I'd get her a stone that matches her eyes. If she does have brown eyes give her a rock that's her favorite color or what ever he favorite stone happens to be.

 

[justin84]

First I wouldn't buy CZ because I don't like the look of diamonds anyway (and therefor fake diamonds). The problem is that she insists on diamond, a real diamond, and only diamond. She wants it to look a certain way, and cost a certain amount. The amount is not ridiculous, and I could easily afford it, but the fact that she is demanding certain monetary specifications on something that is supposed to symbolize eternal commitment is what rubs me the wrong way.

 

[Maxtro]

Then tell her.

 

[oakraiderz2]

You guys who think a girl is going to marry you with a CZ ring are just dreaming. That is a way to be eternally single.

It is impossible for anyone on sosuave to start a thread about a girl and the consensus advice not be "Next!!!" I would urge anyone in a real relationship to not follow the advice here. A lot of guys on here are jaded and angry at women and it comes through in the ridiculous advice they give.

This is probably the best advice ive seen on this site in a while. The bs that pollutes this site is astonishing.

 

[R19]

Damn I gotta get off here because for every brilliant guy spinning platinum on here, there a ton of rock heads. Even the most player, wild, non-traditional, alpha dominant, or whatever chick that is bound for marriage, has dreamt of getting married since they were a little girl...

It's not about money nor being a gold digger, it's about being genuine. So what, the diamond market is a monopoly, and it's a dirty industry - as opposed to banking, the financial markets, energy markets, and almost every market/aspect of our economy and society?

One should work down the price range, but stay with the highest quality possible versus an imitation which CZ is absolutely. What does it say to someone when you are would rather get something fake than be creative and work within reality and your means?

Whatever your 'stock' was trading at before you asked, it is now trading at $00.00 bid.

Do you think that no chick has ever got her rock appraised? And sure, she won't be able to tell. And when she is at some party or at work showing off her ring and someone who knows jewelry calls her ring out, I am sure she'll feel the best ever.

I recommend getting some outside, qualified, expert advice. Fvck, I'd go to a couple jewelers or a professional shopper who's the real deal and pay them some cash to get their unbiased, off-record advice on what to do. They should understand and be willing to help and have probably run into this situation with clients before.

Every thread - the answer is 'Next' so that chick is available for some AFC or DJ to get a shot.

'Hey honey, look at these new golf clubs I got you. They're Ping replicas. Have fun with the boys on the course today!!!

Fvck, I'd rather go into debt, get the sickest rock, and get a 2nd job to pay for it than the alternatives. And fvck it, if she left me the next day, at least I know that I have gansta' balls and I did it for myself. The chick might be wearing it, but it's a reflection of you as well.

 

[ready123]

You guys who think a girl is going to marry you with a CZ ring are just dreaming. That is a way to be eternally single.

It is impossible for anyone on sosuave to start a thread about a girl and the consensus advice not be "Next!!!" I would urge anyone in a real relationship to not follow the advice here. A lot of guys on here are jaded and angry at women and it comes through in the ridiculous advice they give.

I agree. On top of that, asking a girl if she likes cz is a loaded question

if you wanna know if your girl is superficial, just be straight up and talk to her about it. on top of that you should've figured it out before you got in a relationship with her

asking a girl, "hey do you like cz" is asking a girl "what would you think if I bought you a piece of sht to commemorate a day I know is important to you?" the subcommunication is that you're insulting her and are too socially retarded to even realize it. you'd honestly be better off not getting her a ring period

 

[Alexander the Great]

Holy f*cking sh*t.

I really can't believe my eyes here. Loads of assumed men ready to submit either their livelyhood or their balls just to get a girl.

I thought I knew desperate when I saw it but some of you really redefined the term.

Gents, buy a real rock, sure. They're not that expensive when they're small. But if you think for a minute that you cannot get the girl you want to marry unless you get her a real diamond, hehehe... welcome to your own little illusion.

Things don't buy love and commitment. That's the bottom line.

WANTING to give a girl the genuine item because you believe she deserves it is something completely different from thinking you SHOULD give her the genuine item because it's an insult to her to do otherwise. If it's the latter you believe, then you don't have the balls to deal the cards and you have things to learn still about being a man.

I sincerely hope this will be the last post in here.