I am done......Absolutely ridiculous...

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All my buddies and female friends are saying I should "text one more time". They say she deserves a second chance.....But I would think that a girl who was interested would call back the first time, or would call and say "what happened to you?". I don't know if I should be a little persistent. I think I'm not gonna text. Fuvk! This is just ridiculous........What you guys think? I think for sure it's another guy. She did talk about her ex and said "he broke up with me last year". I noticed when guys break up with girls, they (girls) have feelings for them always.
 

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Hey Bible Belt,

I read that, very good post. But as far as timing? Next week? Couple weeks? This weekend? I'm assuming you are saying go ahead and contact later on, but how much is later on? How much time should pass?
 
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Trent I want to post in your thread because I have literally.....literally....been having the same damn problem, only my threads have not gotten as much replies.

I go out and meet a chick, we hit it off. Kino, obvious attraction, sometimes I even fvck her early.

But...

1.) They very rarely call me if ever.

2.) When I call or text them, we have the same relationship and vibe like we had before....which makes me dumbfounded on why in the fvck do they not call me??

I would like I seriously answer to this question on:

"How is it that if you hit it off good with a girl, obvious attraction, that the girl doesn't call back, etc."

The answers I see about Trent or I for that matter being an AFC or desperate, just doesn't make sense. I don't act that way at all, I'm just fvckin confused on why when a chick supposedly LIKES YOU why she never calls???

That's what I'm dumbfounded on. And the answer of "just go get more chicks" doesn't make sense either because take it from me, I always spin plates and 95% of the plates are doing what I described above.

Finally, I don't think the answer of "well they are all h0es" is correct either. Most of my plates are regular chicks, not club or party girls.

So I just don't fvckin understand along with Trent, so somebody please address this question, seriously.
 

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Hey Message,

The only thing I can think of that is happening to us is; They have feelings or something going on with another guy. There has to be another guy in the picture. I noticed that all the women I am meeting are off of a relationship or have some guy lurking somewhere. I am confused and baffled, I had a great night with this girl.
 

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I always spin plates and 95% of the plates are doing what I described above.

Awesome. Then all you need is about 20 plates, and you will always have a girl. And that should not be that hard to maintain if they don't call you. Do well with a girl, and then let her go so that she will later come back to you when she is ready. That attitude gets easy to maintain when you apply it across about twenty women. Have the date where she really should have called back but didn't about three or four five times a month. But end it well and not poorly. Then, within a few months, you will reach a point where you always have a girl.

And as far as the exact timing of when to try again with the girl who ignored you before, I would place the measure of time in an emotional sense - call her again when you have been through all of this with another girl or two and are mostly over her.
 

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Exactly...

BUT....she's ignoring him (in this case)...No communication at All!!!
That's NOT a good sign at all and...it feels worse than being told No.

QUESTION:
What is the difference between someone who's ignoring you...and someone who's just not interested Right Now? (it sounds like a dumb question but i need clarification).




Bible_Belt said:
 

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The Message Boy said:
Trent I want to post in your thread because I have literally.....literally....been having the same damn problem, only my threads have not gotten as much replies.

I go out and meet a chick, we hit it off. Kino, obvious attraction, sometimes I even fvck her early.

But...

1.) They very rarely call me if ever.

2.) When I call or text them, we have the same relationship and vibe like we had before....which makes me dumbfounded on why in the fvck do they not call me??

I would like I seriously answer to this question on:

"How is it that if you hit it off good with a girl, obvious attraction, that the girl doesn't call back, etc."

The answers I see about Trent or I for that matter being an AFC or desperate, just doesn't make sense. I don't act that way at all, I'm just fvckin confused on why when a chick supposedly LIKES YOU why she never calls???

That's what I'm dumbfounded on. And the answer of "just go get more chicks" doesn't make sense either because take it from me, I always spin plates and 95% of the plates are doing what I described above.

Finally, I don't think the answer of "well they are all h0es" is correct either. Most of my plates are regular chicks, not club or party girls.

So I just don't fvckin understand along with Trent, so somebody please address this question, seriously.
Well,it would help if you could post the standard type of interaction you usually have with girls.

Dating has stages,and a lot of times,a mistake or error you make in one stage won't show up until a latter one.


If you want these girls to keep in contact with you after going out on a date or sleeping with them,basically what you're saying is that you either want a relationship,or at least would like to have the option of having a relationship instead of just taking a girl out,having a good time,then never hearing from her again.


If I had to guess,I'd say it's somewhat of a comfort issue.

The formula I've always relied on is...

Attraction + little or no comfort = flaking

Comfort with little or no attraction = friendzone

If girls are repeatedly flaking on you,there's a good chance there isn't enough comfort there.

Like I said,if you can post your standard interaction with girls,maybe the problem can be located.
 

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This sounds about Right...

But this girl is just being Rude. :nervous:

It shows a Gross Margin of immaturity to just ignore someone who you have gone out with and even swapped spit with.

Sorry, i my world, this chick would get

1) Totally ignore her rule

or

2) A tongue lashing..and not a fun one.:)



Igetit! said:
The formula I've always relied on is...

Attraction + little or no comfort = flaking

Comfort with little or no attraction = friendzone

If girls are repeatedly flaking on you,there's a good chance there isn't enough comfort there.
 

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Todd Preston said:
QUESTION:
What is the difference between someone who's ignoring you...and someone who's just not interested Right Now? (it sounds like a dumb question but i need clarification).

It's the same thing. Either she's into you right now or she's not. You never really know why. Her actions are all that matter. Plus, she will never tell you that you might have a chance in the future, so you just have to assume that you do. She probably does not realize it herself.
 

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So I said "what the hell".........I texted her today after Monday's no call back (I said how is everything? Wanted to see if you wanted to hang out again sometime) She texted me back in fifteen minutes (Sorry I haven't got back to you this week, I have been very very busy. Im working late in to the night, I'll call you tomorrow.) so we'll see if she calls, at this point i think she is showing very low interest, not to mention I am doubting even if I should ask her out again. The fact that she hasn't called me back, makes me weary of it and kinda like "I don't want to waste my time with a chick that can't even call me back". I'm sure she would have called right away if she was very interested. Besides, I STILL think there is another guy if not her ex. Think I'm gonna move on. It sucks, but my self respect is more important. If she makes me chase any more, I'm done.
 

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Well I'd delete her number. Sounds like she's not gonna call you. I'd put 20 bucks on it in fact. But it also seems like she wants you to chase her a bit. Some girls do this **** if they can get away with it. I wouldn't worry about the other guy if there is one unless she's "in love", then you're just second string in that case. Just do what I said go find more chicks man and you'll forget about this whole debacle in no time.
 

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To Trent81 and The Message Boy:
It is obvious to me and I don't know how no one else has noticed this, but it seems that the problem here is you. You are doing something wrong, maybe you are not showing them that you are worth it. They had fun that night but maybe they don't think that you are worth the trouble, no matter what the reason for the "flaking" is.
Do you think one of the master DJ's would have the same troubles as you if they where to meet these females?
Trent81, I've read a few of your posts and it looks like you are falling in love and getting ready for the wedding with the females you just met. Your texts and phone calls sound needy and like if you two where already in a LTR. Maybe you are doing something wrong in the date?
Do you behave like you are in love with them?
You have to change something, I don't know what it is but I'm sure that it is something that you are doing.
 

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SickAgain said:
Well I'd delete her number. Sounds like she's not gonna call you. I'd put 20 bucks on it in fact. But it also seems like she wants you to chase her a bit. Some girls do this **** if they can get away with it. I wouldn't worry about the other guy if there is one unless she's "in love", then you're just second string in that case. Just do what I said go find more chicks man and you'll forget about this whole debacle in no time.

You owe me 20 bucks. She called me, but I was not in a good mood today, and I wasn't happy. She noticed it. We talked briefly. I said I wanted to see if she wanted to hang out sometime. She said she's already got plans but maybe sometime next week, and that she would keep me posted. I said, "Cool, well, let me know. I'll talk to you soon then." Made a little bit more small talk, and got off the phone quickly, whole conversation was maybe 5 min. As soon as she said she'll keep me posted, I didn't pursue it anymore, I left it at call me up and let me know. I don't think I will contact her and don't think I will hear from her again.
 

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We never shook on it :p

Cool she called anyways. I think your game needs work though. Take more initiative.
 

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trent81 said:
I figured it out I think. During my date she texted someone, she said it was a female friend. Before we got to the bar she was saying "I shouldn't stay out too late, I have to wake up early tomorrow". I think what happened was she texted her exboyfriend or another guy. The reason I say this is that two reasons She wanted to leave a few minutes after her second texts. It was only midnight. Her excuse was that she had to wake up early for a bday party for her niece. She then texted me to say thanks and all that BS on her way home, but when I replied she never replied back. Guarantee she was already there. I'm gonna text her the following on Thursday;

Hey, it's Trent. Tried to call u earlier this week and never heard from you but wanted to give it one last shot. Wanted to see if you wanted to hang out this weekend. I don't know if you are seeing someone but it seems like you are, if that's the case than I wish you the best. But if you aren't and are interested, hit me up. Later....

Or something like that. What you think?
#1. Don't give up yet.

#2. Don't react to her mood swings.

#3. Try something new out, something fun with her.

#4. Hint some other girls in your life as well to her.
 

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trent81 said:
You owe me 20 bucks. She called me, but I was not in a good mood today, and I wasn't happy. She noticed it. We talked briefly. I said I wanted to see if she wanted to hang out sometime. She said she's already got plans but maybe sometime next week, and that she would keep me posted. I said, "Cool, well, let me know. I'll talk to you soon then." Made a little bit more small talk, and got off the phone quickly, whole conversation was maybe 5 min. As soon as she said she'll keep me posted, I didn't pursue it anymore, I left it at call me up and let me know. I don't think I will contact her and don't think I will hear from her again.
And don't be so sure that since she called, you are winning....!
 

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SickAgain said:
We never shook on it :p

Cool she called anyways. I think your game needs work though. Take more initiative.
What you mean my game needs work? When a girl doesn't call me back for a week, when she tells me she "will keep me posted" why should I keep pursuing or take more initiative? I have done my part. I have contacted, asked out, everything.....Why should I say be more persistent with someone showing very little, if any, interest? I am too old to chase around women that don't show interest. SHE SAID I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED. Do you know how rude and disrespectful this is? No matter how busy she is?
 

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schttrj said:
And don't be so sure that since she called, you are winning....!
I don't think I'm winning, that's why I deleted her number. She is showing zero interest. YOu know why she called me? To put one more stallion in her stall. But this stallion is the typed that doesn't like confined places. FUVK THIS. I DID ALL I COULD. If she calls, she calls. Then we hang out. I have pursued and chased her more than I should. NO WOMAN WOULD NOT CALL YOU BACK IF SHE LIKED YOU. It doesn't have to take another text to get her to contact me. IT'S BULLSHT.
 

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You should never, ever let a woman string you along, a la "maybe next week", as you're finding out.

Also, something very important here: You keep on proposing "hanging out" with her. That is the antithesis of the DJ mindset. A DJ doesn't propose a vague "hanging out"; rather, he says, "Listen, I'm planning on going to XYZ this Saturday. Why don't you come on along with me? I can pick you up at noon".

By doing this you are demonstrating dominance, confidence, and a sense of purpose. If she hedges, you tell her, "I don't work that way. If you can't make it, fine, but I need an answer by tomorrow or I'll have to make other plans".

This demonstrates that you will not allow yourself to be strung along and that you are a man who takes charge.

If she hedges, great, you've eliminated a loser out of your life. The only other outcome would be that she admires your strength and feels attraction for you.

Be strong. Set the frame and stick to it. You're inviting her into YOUR world, and in your world you set the rules.
 
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