I am at my wits end.

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Alright, here's the deal...im a high school student, but next year (my senior year) i am going to be at a community college taking advanced classes as the high school i attend ran out.

I am a decent to good looking guy (at least from what i hear) who has completely struck the hell out with women all throughout high school.

I am the typical cliche guy who used to listen hours on end about their boyfriend problems, just to see them run back time and time again to get their heart broken. It tears me up on the inside, but - I HAVE NOW STOPPED FEELING SORRY FOR STUPID GIRLS WHO GO BACK TO THE SAME LOSER GUYS - HAVE FUN BEING TRAILER TRASH while i have a good future in store (gonna graduate valedictorian and im attending UW Seattle, i have over a 4.0 weighted GPA)

All of my friends are having sex and have been since I was about 15 (im turning 18 in three months) and I have gotten sick and tired of hearing about it, I have been watching porn and masturbating since I was 11 - it's starting not to work for me if i dont have anything to compare it to in real life.

I've tried being myself - i get shot down.
People say i talk too much - i stop talking so much...then people say i talk too little.

Girls tell me i'm hot and im a great guy, they just don't see me "like that"... IM ****ING SICK AND TIRED OF JACKING OFF EVERY GOD DAMN WEEKEND while my friends are out there getting real world action.

And if you're one of those people who is going to tell me that i should wait for love - thats ****ing bull**** because I was in love with a one-itis for about 6 months and finally got over that **** - once i was finally over it i was sick and tired of her **** and now i dont realy care what loser guy she runs too - im done.

Maybe I would be the nice, gentle, caring guy IF THAT GUY ACTUALLY GOT SOME.

I'm in high school and im about to go to college, I really dont want to be so sexually inexperienced that it ruins the rest of my life. I would like to hear what you guys have to say about picking up a prostitute when i'm 18 on my trip to amsterdam (of course it would be a classy prostitute) so i can bring my comfort up and start being a more "sexual" being...watching everyone else have boyfriends and girlfriends and friends with benefits really eats me the **** up, and I'm sick and tired of it.

Maybe it's because i used to be a scrawny guy that would take **** for everyone...at one point i even drove a so called 'friend' to a girls house AND picked him up 2 hours later...just to get a ****ing ticket. IM SO ****ING IRRITATED BY THIS LACK OF ACTION YOU HAVE NO ****ING IDEA - I NEED SOME RELEASE.

All I want is for a girl to WANT to have sex with me, but not because "im a virgin"...and ill be set. I've spent days flying solo, now its time to get a partner.

Here's a little about me:
5'6" 145lbs
Athletic / Muscular body type (i weightlift / bodybuild)
Trained in krav maga self defense (ever since i started learning real world combat my)
Straight A's
Prospects at Harvard and Yale
Rich family - but they make me work for everything that i have


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I know a lot of you are going to say 'Well, just go find a party' well, where I live...everyone's parents are EVERYWHERE AT EVERYTIME (even the kids who are over 18) because its such a rich people area...the only real "parties" happen like once every few months and usually have a limited amount of people that they want at them.

The last time i kissed a girl was when I was 13, in middle school...nothing has happened since then, nothing. I've read the don juan bible, tried the bootcamps, read the mystery method, etc...none of it has helped me get out of this rut im in.

Please, so suave, I am at my WITS END here, I'm starting to feel like I have inferior genetics just because no woman ever wants to be with me.

here's a picture:
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Since this picture I have cut my hair to about 1/2 an inch instead of the big mop i have in here.
 

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Dont worry about it too much man... you are still just in highschool. When you go to college you will have plenty of opportunities to get with girls. Its hard to change you status in highschool ...not saying its impossible but not very likely. In highschool its more about who you hangout with or what kind of sport you play. Girls are immature and they go for guys that are jerks and play sports. I would say focus on your school, continue working on your body and work on your conversation skills. Looks are not that important and from the looks of your picture you seem like a descant looking guy.... (NO HOMO).
You dont have any deformaties so not sure if you will beleive it but its all about how fun you are and how much confidence you have. You say you live in a rich area where parents go everywhere with their kids. That could be the problem. At this time looks like you have good life ahead of you... you are smart and you will have plenty of girls in your life...TRUST ME.

This coming from a guy that was in all advanced classes in highschool w 4.0 gpa and finished HS 3rd in my class. While i did have opportunities to have gf in hs, it wasnt the ones that i was interested in. Trust me college is much different and when girls mature more they actually care about the personality and not who you hang out with.

GL
 

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Do squats (judging from your picture, idk if you work out your legs, it might just be the angle)

Be a sexual person! This is the number one thing. Be sexy, use innuendo at times (don't go overboard though), if you want to hook up with a girl go for it! Have a general sexual and i don't give a **** vibe.

Don't see fun or immaturity or whatever as below you

Party it up, I figure that's where most of your friends are getting poon

If you need help with general conversation/connecting to people, look up juggler (appearing less needy/more interesting/getting rapport naturally)

Read David Deangelos ****y Funny

Look up the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder

Should be set.
 

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Have you tried losing the facial hair? no beard is better than half of one. I'd read up on body language and IOI's. See who is actually hitting on you that you are missing. Then you decide if interested or not. Don't waste your time chasing women who aren't interested in you. You won't pull a 10 in HS-you aren't the type. BUT in college and after you have a really good job,they will show up.[ask me how I know-I wasn't the jock in HS,but I have a DDS after my name now]

The only thing I will warn you about-some of the really pretty women are only good for 1 thing[no brains and no orals]. You have an Idealllized picture of them right now. I'd rather date a nice 8 than a worthless 10.
 

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Just the fact that you mentioned your GPA tells me you are thinking way too much. Good grades and future do not equal success with with women. The here and now is what matters. Talk to a woman, ask her for her number, go out on a date, do not even entertain a sob story about her bf, touch her more than once, kiss her without worrying how you're going to do it or how, and you'll be fine. I went though the same thing and you just have to learn to stop caring for a minute.
 

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Prodigy746 said:
Dont worry about it too much man... you are still just in highschool. When you go to college you will have plenty of opportunities to get with girls. Its hard to change you status in highschool ...not saying its impossible but not very likely. In highschool its more about who you hangout with or what kind of sport you play. Girls are immature and they go for guys that are jerks and play sports. I would say focus on your school, continue working on your body and work on your conversation skills. Looks are not that important and from the looks of your picture you seem like a descant looking guy.... (NO HOMO).
You dont have any deformaties so not sure if you will beleive it but its all about how fun you are and how much confidence you have. You say you live in a rich area where parents go everywhere with their kids. That could be the problem. At this time looks like you have good life ahead of you... you are smart and you will have plenty of girls in your life...TRUST ME.

This coming from a guy that was in all advanced classes in highschool w 4.0 gpa and finished HS 3rd in my class. While i did have opportunities to have gf in hs, it wasnt the ones that i was interested in. Trust me college is much different and when girls mature more they actually care about the personality and not who you hang out with.

GL
I did powerlifting and track prior to being diagnosed with crohns disease and since i have recovered i hope to get back into both very soon.

I have been the guy who is "outgoing and fun".

I'm REALLY good friends with the three football player "studs" on the team - we've known each other forever. I also am friends with other people from other groups - as the advanced classes im in dont have some of my friends and im not about to be completely antisocial.

I just want a girl in my life, in some way, shape, or form.
 

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sodbuster said:
Have you tried losing the facial hair? no beard is better than half of one. I'd read up on body language and IOI's. See who is actually hitting on you that you are missing. Then you decide if interested or not. Don't waste your time chasing women who aren't interested in you. You won't pull a 10 in HS-you aren't the type. BUT in college and after you have a really good job,they will show up.[ask me how I know-I wasn't the jock in HS,but I have a DDS after my name now]

The only thing I will warn you about-some of the really pretty women are only good for 1 thing[no brains and no orals]. You have an Idealllized picture of them right now. I'd rather date a nice 8 than a worthless 10.
Ive read the Dj bible, the mystery method, and another one that i cant remember the name of. I know how to see IOIs and I can detect girls giving them to me...its just effing impossible to ever do anything.

Ive done full facial hair, mustache only, short chin beard only, no facial hair...currently i have shorter hair with no facial hair at the moment.

I usually shave it after 2-3 days as i like to look a little scruffy (i used to do the clean shaven, nice guy look and 3 girls thought i was gay)

I could careless if she was a 10, **** id even settle for a 6 or seven at this point. (6 so long as they weren't completely effing brain dead)
 

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Da Realist said:
Just the fact that you mentioned your GPA tells me you are thinking way too much. Good grades and future do not equal success with with women. The here and now is what matters. Talk to a woman, ask her for her number, go out on a date, do not even entertain a sob story about her bf, touch her more than once, kiss her without worrying how you're going to do it or how, and you'll be fine. I went though the same thing and you just have to learn to stop caring for a minute.
I've taken the "not caring" advice that you guys give me and it doesn't work. Seems like all my other friends can just ****ing call up girls, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT TO.

IF I CAN BE IN ****ING ADVANCED CALCULUS AS A FOURTEEN YEAR OLD, HAVE ASPIRATIONS AND DREAMS OF STANFORD AND HARVARD, THEN I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A LEAST ONE FREAKING RELATIONSHIP...I don't even care about sex!!! I HAVE NOT KISSED A GIRL SINCE THE EIGHTH GRADE.

(I gurantee you 100% that I'm not lying...yes, it is that bad and it eats me up having to listen to EVERYONE ELSE having sex...it's everywhere....AND IM NOT HAVING IT, I WANT IT.)

Right now, It's on my mind so much that it's priority over almost everything else (besides the obvious family, BEST friends, bla bla bla)

I dont know what it is, but ive tried not caring, didnt work...ive tried almost every single thing I can find on the internet and i haven't even gone on one ****ing date.

I've been LJBF'd 15 times.
 

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LOL, you tried not caring? Not caring isn't something you try out for a week to see if works... It becomes part of who you are. You are very intelligent, I believe... Women love intelligence... MAN! Women can't handle intelligence... You say you live in a rich people area, how high are your standards on females? Seriously? If only all these people on here knew women are the dumbest beings alive. They have NO logic. Once you become confident around one and show your leadership skills, the female will let go of her ego and reveal her stupidity. Then, the man has it easy... But your not there yet. Not caring is the trick... I cared, I came to this forum last october... I read that I'm not supposed to care... I left this forum the following week... Why? I quit caring, lol...
 

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Well, be a ****head and see how it turns out for a while, might get some action.

Try different methods of picking chicks up, right now I've got a couple of chicks who are interested and it's all just been me seeing if I could get anywhere through just internet, just texting on phone, directly telling the chicks straight up that I want them, just all various methods and they all seem to be going swimmingly right now.

Except I can't get over a certain chick, but whatever that'll happen..

Really you just gotta be more up front, like if you see a hot chick, go up and make conversation with them go for a number or somethin'.

If you see a chick at a party or somethin', just go right up and tell 'em they're lookin' damn sexy tonight.
Instant sucsex.
 

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lastresort said:
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I am a decent to good looking guy (at least from what i hear) who has completely struck the hell out with women all throughout high school.

I am the typical cliche guy who used to listen hours on end about their boyfriend problems, just to see them run back time and time again to get their heart broken. It tears me up on the inside, but - I HAVE NOW STOPPED FEELING SORRY FOR STUPID GIRLS WHO GO BACK TO THE SAME LOSER GUYS - HAVE FUN BEING TRAILER TRASH while i have a good future in store (gonna graduate valedictorian and im attending UW Seattle, i have over a 4.0 weighted GPA)

I can see half your problem right here. You are putting girls who didn't date you and give sex in high school down to feel good about yourself. You should know it doesn't work that way and no girl will get weak knees with you when you think like that.

All of my friends are having sex and have been since I was about 15 (im turning 18 in three months) and I have gotten sick and tired of hearing about it, I have been watching porn and masturbating since I was 11 - it's starting not to work for me if i dont have anything to compare it to in real life.

Don't believe everything your friends say. Unless you witness it, you can't be sure.

I've tried being myself - i get shot down.
People say i talk too much - i stop talking so much...then people say i talk too little.

Girls tell me i'm hot and im a great guy, they just don't see me "like that"... IM ****ING SICK AND TIRED OF JACKING OFF EVERY GOD DAMN WEEKEND while my friends are out there getting real world action.

All I want is for a girl to WANT to have sex with me,

Why should any girl have sex with you? They need a reason to have sex with you. You have just given 10 excellent reasons why they shouldn't.


Here's a little about me:
5'6" 145lbs
Athletic / Muscular body type (i weightlift / bodybuild)
Trained in krav maga self defense (ever since i started learning real world combat my)
Straight A's
Prospects at Harvard and Yale
Rich family - but they make me work for everything that i have

- Height is an issue.
- krav maga doesn't make girls knees weak. Guitar playing, sports, dancing, does.


The last time i kissed a girl was when I was 13, in middle school...nothing has happened since then, nothing. I've read the don juan bible, tried the bootcamps, read the mystery method, etc...none of it has helped me get out of this rut im in.
You've read everything but haven't applied anything. Otherwise you would not be in the situation you are in. We also need specific examples to help you.

We cannot magically transform you into this superstud James Bond type of character. Looks are 5 - 10% of the game. If you look like Brad, but cannot string 2 sentences together to turn her on, you will be done for and live alone for the rest of your life. We need examples before we can help you.
 

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as a response to Donjuan11, most people don't know that I train in krav - i like to keep it that way. I simply use it as a powerful confidence building workout, in fact - i consider myself a pacificst.

I would try to give you guys valid examples...there just haven't been any that are of merit lately.

I have a few girls phone numbers in my phone that *might* be interested in me since the last time we hung out (probably 2-3 weeks ago, i developed good rapport...we were about to go back home but her *parents* called her ((they legitimately called her, i heard her mom getting mad at her)) and she had to go home...stuff like this happens to me.

After that, its the follow up...mainly...how to set up a date, and especially, especially that stupid text messaging crap that EVERYBODY around here does (I personally HATE IT to death...i mean WHY SHOULD I USE A 9 BUTTON KEYBOARD TO WRITE A MESSAGE WHEN I CAN JUST CALL YOU...but whatever, ill play along)

My friend took my phone and started texting as "me" and was able to get way farther in a text message conversation than myself.
 

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What you need to do is simple: use your friends. you said you have a lot of friends getting laid, just ask them to tell the girls they are sleeping with to hook you up with one of their friends. HS girls love to do group hangout stuff anyways. Also, observe your buddies that are getting laid and pay attention to what works for them and do the same things. And if they are good friends you can just ask them straight up for advise, am pretty sure they will take the opportunity to school you. Try my suggestions, i guarantee you they will work.
 

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I can't imagine someone as desperate as you is not giving off a desperate vibe at least some of the time.

Learn why desperation kills attraction for women, and work on that.

You seem fairly confident in yourself, but you could be too overt and arrogant also. There's a fine line between strong confidence and arrogance.

I think your biggest problem is the porn. Stop watching it so much and focus that energy elsewhere.

Sarging and picking up girls takes a lot of time, and effort. Apply your conscious mind to learning game and going out into the world and picking up girls. Look for a place where you'll feel somewhat comfortable talking to girls and escalating, and not so worried about crashing and burning.

And relax, lots of guys were in your position. This isn't supposed to be easy. It's difficult for a reason.
 

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wjh said:
I can't imagine someone as desperate as you is not giving off a desperate vibe at least some of the time.

Learn why desperation kills attraction for women, and work on that.

You seem fairly confident in yourself, but you could be too overt and arrogant also. There's a fine line between strong confidence and arrogance.

I think your biggest problem is the porn. Stop watching it so much and focus that energy elsewhere.

Sarging and picking up girls takes a lot of time, and effort. Apply your conscious mind to learning game and going out into the world and picking up girls. Look for a place where you'll feel somewhat comfortable talking to girls and escalating, and not so worried about crashing and burning.

And relax, lots of guys were in your position. This isn't supposed to be easy. It's difficult for a reason.
I have decided to stop watching porn until i can at least get a date/get together/meet a girl.

With someone who has ELEVATED testosterone levels even beyond that of a teenager....its really effing hard though (I know this because i had professional blood work drawn up and they did a full range testosterone test)
 

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i think your problem is your style mayn....

but im sure you got potential.

take a look at this list I made for ya:

cut your hair off!! try 4 to 6 milimeter (like almost bold) very handy and you dont have to do **** with ur hair.

DONT wear wider shirts then your pants are, imo it just looks nerdy.

you should wear like white tanktop with a leather jacket over it open, get a nice army dogtag necklace and ffs wear some baggy pants with nice sneakers under it...

your confidence will grow so as ur game..

they are just tips do with em what you want, but I am sure your hot chick attraction will evolve by 400%
 

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Since you need some advice and I'm not playing Mega Man 3, here you go.

Read between the lines.

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Alright, here's the deal...im a high school student, but next year (my senior year) i am going to be at a community college taking advanced classes as the high school i attend ran out.

You have a easy chance to get your Ph. D. Congrats!

I am a decent to good looking guy (at least from what i hear) who has completely struck the hell out with women all throughout high school.

I wonder why...

I am the typical cliche guy who used to listen hours on end about their boyfriend problems, just to see them run back time and time again to get their heart broken. It tears me up on the inside, but - I HAVE NOW STOPPED FEELING SORRY FOR STUPID GIRLS WHO GO BACK TO THE SAME LOSER GUYS - HAVE FUN BEING TRAILER TRASH while i have a good future in store (gonna graduate valedictorian and im attending UW Seattle, i have over a 4.0 weighted GPA)

I wish I had a 5.0 GPA as opposed to a 5.0 Mustang! LOL Your good future involves getting a great job with a 6 figure salary. It seems that that's the time you'll get a great girl, maybe. You're listening to the boyfriend problems? You deserve to be batted in the mouth! Girls walk all over wussies! You're one of them. Stop it. When all else fails, flaunt the cash!

All of my friends are having sex and have been since I was about 15 (im turning 18 in three months) and I have gotten sick and tired of hearing about it, I have been watching porn and masturbating since I was 11 - it's starting not to work for me if i dont have anything to compare it to in real life.

I started jacking off at 15 when I found out how to do it. Just stay away from those kinds of conversations. If your friends discover you're still a virgin, you might become the laughing stock of your school. Only a true friend will help you out. Get a great wingman. Over masturbation will trick you into thinking you don't need a girl and your hand will be your only source of pleasure. Get some real world action. BTW You're desperately rushing yourself.

I've tried being myself - i get shot down.

Case and point proven yet again. 'Nuff said.

People say i talk too much - i stop talking so much...then people say i talk too little.

Find the balance motherf***er! And don't give too much about yourself. Let the girl figure you out. It's like playing The Legend of Zelda. BTW Stop trying to fulfill everybody's expectations. You can't satisfy everyone.

Girls tell me i'm hot and im a great guy, they just don't see me "like that"... IM ****ING SICK AND TIRED OF JACKING OFF EVERY GOD DAMN WEEKEND while my friends are out there getting real world action.

Girls have nice ways of saying no and that is one of them. Get your friends to hook you up with a chick. Get introduced to their social circle. If they don't and laugh at you instead, GO ALONE! Work on your social skills.

And if you're one of those people who is going to tell me that i should wait for love - thats ****ing bull**** because I was in love with a one-itis for about 6 months and finally got over that **** - once i was finally over it i was sick and tired of her **** and now i dont realy care what loser guy she runs too - im done.

You should wait for love...THAT'S THE GAYEST SH*T I EVER HEARD! Also, everybody tells people like you who have trouble getting a girl that they should just be yourself, there's someone for everybody, a great girl will come to you if you wait. If you heard any of these things then EVERYBODY'S WRONG! Alpha males don't believe that sh*t, Ripley's doesn't even believe that sh*t! Neither should you.

Maybe I would be the nice, gentle, caring guy IF THAT GUY ACTUALLY GOT SOME.

But he doesn't. Nice guys finish last. Don't be that guy.

I'm in high school and im about to go to college, I really dont want to be so sexually inexperienced that it ruins the rest of my life. I would like to hear what you guys have to say about picking up a prostitute when i'm 18 on my trip to amsterdam (of course it would be a classy prostitute) so i can bring my comfort up and start being a more "sexual" being...watching everyone else have boyfriends and girlfriends and friends with benefits really eats me the **** up, and I'm sick and tired of it.

Stay away from those kinds of conversations. If you get a hooker, you may get laid in jail. Even if it isn't undercover, you won't feel good about yourself in the end. In these kinds of convos, hookers don't count. You need to google how to get a girlfriend and how a man can be a lover instead of a friend.

Maybe it's because i used to be a scrawny guy that would take **** for everyone...at one point i even drove a so called 'friend' to a girls house AND picked him up 2 hours later...just to get a ****ing ticket. IM SO ****ING IRRITATED BY THIS LACK OF ACTION YOU HAVE NO ****ING IDEA - I NEED SOME RELEASE.

Why the f**k were you speeding? Also that first sentence...your past affects your future. And it f**ked yours up.

All I want is for a girl to WANT to have sex with me, but not because "im a virgin"...and ill be set. I've spent days flying solo, now its time to get a partner.

Lie about being a virgin. You have to attract the girl. If you're chasing, you'll get nowhere. Make the girl want what she can't have. Are you the goddamn prize?

Here's a little about me:
5'6" 145lbs
Athletic / Muscular body type (i weightlift / bodybuild)
Trained in krav maga self defense (ever since i started learning real world combat my)
Straight A's
Prospects at Harvard and Yale
Rich family - but they make me work for everything that i have

WTF?! You're rich and muscular? In actuality you're another case of Carlton Banks! You should apply to Princeton.


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I know a lot of you are going to say 'Well, just go find a party' well, where I live...everyone's parents are EVERYWHERE AT EVERYTIME (even the kids who are over 18) because its such a rich people area...the only real "parties" happen like once every few months and usually have a limited amount of people that they want at them.

That can be a downside to being rich like that, you have little or no social life with those under you i.e. middle class. You need to go find a party and get cool with the regulars. But stay low key. You can also pull up in a Rolls Royce to get attention of the people outside waiting in line, but you can't bring that car inside the damn club. Just listen to the radio and you'll hear stuff of parties going on. Get off your ass and go. You'll get nothing sitting in and playing World of Warcraft. If you must go alone (it sounds like that's mandatory in your case), you must socialize and not be afraid to do so. Google bar/club/party advice. Also try going to different venues like sports matches and grocery stores.

The last time i kissed a girl was when I was 13, in middle school...nothing has happened since then, nothing. I've read the don juan bible, tried the bootcamps, read the mystery method, etc...none of it has helped me get out of this rut im in.

Pathetic. Alter your persona. That be yourself sh*t isn't gonna cut it.

Please, so suave, I am at my WITS END here, I'm starting to feel like I have inferior genetics just because no woman ever wants to be with me.

You can also pimp your ride, JK LOL. Get out and have fun! Find a wingman who isn't an AFC.

here's a picture:
http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=l45dec6ed566042b8a4c899.jpg

Shoulda gone with more angles so that we could give you more advice. You also need to google the latest trends and go with them! You're rich, so that should be easier than Shaq trying to snap a pencil.

Since this picture I have cut my hair to about 1/2 an inch instead of the big mop i have in here.

Stay well groomed at all times. Get the latest in clothes. You can also get a woman to dress you for a club or party. They know what clothes are attractive! You can also make your own clothes! Find a style that fits you.
Read between the lines. Everyone else does.
 
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I know looks don't matter as much as some people might think but.. seriously, on this pic, you look like you have one eyebrow only. To tell you the truth, I asked my girl what she thought of you. Don't take this too hard but she said you come off as a creep. This is mainly because of the hair (i understand you have a shorter haircut now) and your eyebrows. Without trying to sound gay: have them plucked. I am only telling you this because I think it will make your first impression on girls a better one. And in the end it might make you feel better about yourself. Please notice that she is not calling you ugly because you're not.

As for the more important things: In your first post, you come off as someone who is VERY desperate.
I've tried being myself - i get shot down.
People say i talk too much - i stop talking so much...then people say i talk too little.
How is this being yourself? You try to do what other expect you to do. Don't. You can never satisfy everyone. Just talk as much as you are comfortable with. Just be careful not to mention too much about yourself, and prevent being the one that talks the most, especially in conversation with a girl. If anything play the interviewer, rather then the the interviewee.

Maybe I would be the nice, gentle, caring guy IF THAT GUY ACTUALLY GOT SOME.
Ofcourse! This is probably the main reason why you came to this site. I can tell you you CAN be a nice caring guy but I'm not going to. You need to switch mindsets for a while. See, nice as in 'the nice guy' is not good. Stop being girls girlfriend. Don't sit there and listen to them complaining about their boyfriends. Tell them you don't care about their boyfriends. If they don't like the way they are treated by them, tell them to leave him. Thats all you'll have to say about it.

I would like to hear what you guys have to say about picking up a prostitute when i'm 18 on my trip to amsterdam
Plain and simple. Don't. This will not help you in your quest for selfesteem.

FormerDonJuan said:
What you need to do is simple: use your friends. you said you have a lot of friends getting laid, just ask them to tell the girls they are sleeping with to hook you up with one of their friends. HS girls love to do group hangout stuff anyways. Also, observe your buddies that are getting laid and pay attention to what works for them and do the same things.
I very much agree with FormerDonJuan. Since we are not able to observe you in everyday life or trying to get with a girl it is very hard to give advice about what areas you need to work on. If you observe your 'stud friends' try and see what they are doing differently than you. Try it. See how it feels, see how it works. How are they dressed? How do they walk? What kind of conversation do they use? Are they c&f? If you feel youb can trust one of these friends, ask him for advice. If they are so successful, I'm sure they can tell you what you are doing wrong.
 

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You can't look at a girl with the look of a starving man seeing a burger. You are putting so much pressure on getting laid,you give off a desperate vibe. You need to let her know you want it,but s. how that you don't need it. It's a little hard to explain,but once you figure it out, they just come in on their own.

What do you talk about when you talk to girls? You can't mention your IQ,money etc. you need to let her find that out on her own. As an intelligent person, you may need to "dumb down" your conversation. You can't talk nuclear physics with the table washer at the mall-she'll think you are wierd. Find out what the "normal conversation" at the school is[not what you and your smart group talk about-the regular kids]
 
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