I am able to become....the most hated man ever on this site....but I dont care..

[IsiMan84]

Originally posted by BrotherAP
You say it was so much different in the 50's... but very few of us here were around during the 50's. We're talking about overcoming social conditioning - do we not realize that, when we read (or see movies) about "the 50's", it's through a social filter? Our daily lives are filled with the constant background hum of what we've been traditionally taught is "the way it should be". "A man should be chivalrous to a woman, and never reveal his sexuality!" screams the billboard that has a man on his knees offering a giant rock to some HB. The TV shows we watch, the commercials, the movies, the magazine ads, everything tells us the same exact things about the world day in and day out until we think that we know it intuitively - intuition does you make you AFC. It's social conditioning.

The same things worked then that work now. We are, biologically, the same beings. Nothings changed. If you want to know how the 50's were, go find yourself an 80 year old Don Juan and ask him if women back then didn't respond to seduction.

Whoa now I didn't say all that. Everybody so quick to stretch things beyond the initial statement. Are you honestly going to tell me the 50's were more liberal than today? Of course everything wasn't like you'd see on Leave it to ******, but compared to today it might as well have been. Look at how much faster children mature today than compared to even 20 years ago. Advancements in modern medicine had a lot to do with that. So I'd have to say biologically we aren't completely the same.

But that's not even what I was arguing. Yea you could say the sexual revolution had something to do with it. Like you said sex was better hidden before and people are more open about it today. It's arguable if it was bigger before the revolution as you claim, but it was far more repressed. As far as the women go, the same concept of attraction/seduction still applies, but the way to go about doing it has changed over time. I'm not trying to say a woman wasn't necessarily as interested in sex or the relationship BS, but it was harder to express that interest.

Of course not all of us were around during the 50's, but most of us do have parents that were...

 

[Visceral]

Originally posted by MindOverMatter
However, it's not just that simple. Most people out there are living their life at 40% of their potential. They are out of shape, lack the hunger to succeed, and generally are so lazy that they'd just like to maintain status quo or find a shortcut. You know who these people are. They're the ones ordering those stupid ab zapper belts, they're the ones trying to act like a prize even tho they're overweight, live at home, and don't have a career.

Everybody knows "Where there's a will, there's a way." The question remains, "What do you do when you have no will?"

Lack of way has never been a problem for anyone, especially not in today's world ... the only thing that has ever held anyone back is lack of will, even more so because it perpetuates itself.

 

[PVSSY-EATER]

HEY VIS....excellent question bro.

What do you do when there is no will?

From experience, if someone had a million dollars for you, you WOULD WANT IT, however, the problem is, you DONT KNOW HOW TO GET IT....and that is why you are discouraged into gettin involved.

A true and good motivational and inspirational speaker....should speak truths to you that you are this special person with this or that, and that you CAN have what you want.

The only way a person will lack the will at this point, is if they just dont believe that they have a million dollars....if the check sat right in front of you, trust me, you will not lack any amount of will or determination to grab it...

Let wisdom lead your way into the promise land....and remember this quote from Pook.....

We dont live to be don juans.....we don juan to live.

 

[Mr.Style]

Originally posted by MindOverMatter
wow, this is actually a really good post. I agree 100%. I've never really liked the bible because it's focused way too much on techniques. Talk to girls like this, call her after this period of time, say this if she says that, etc.

mASF is even worse. it's downright geeky with the amount of scripts, neg-hits, and games they try to play. it's all like "i opened this hb and ran the game on her, then the elvis script, then the jealous girlfriend script, then i gave her a palm reading and afterwards i got her #"

this is unnatural outer game, and if girls don't know it now, they will know it soon enough. like pvssy eater said, it's just like pick up lines.

I don't like scripts, or neg-hits. I don't use the forced, artificial C&F that DD teaches. I've never used NLP in my life, and never plan to. That thing is a joke.

I agree, being yourself is the best way to pick up women. Game is built on trial and error, not manuals or workshops. Those can teach you techniques, but game comes from within. The more you try, the more you fail, the more you learn, the more you succeed.

However, it's not just that simple. Most people out there are living their life at 40% of their potential. They are out of shape, lack the hunger to succeed, and generally are so lazy that they'd just like to maintain status quo or find a shortcut. You know who these people are. They're the ones ordering those stupid ab zapper belts, they're the ones trying to act like a prize even tho they're overweight, live at home, and don't have a career.

If you are one of these guys, then being yourself is not enough. Not that I'm saying you shouldn't be yourself, I'm saying that you should improve until you function at 90%+ of your potential. Only then does being yourself work.

Anyway, good post.

This post is one of the best I've read on this site. Especially the part about self-improvement. Well said mate.