Hypothetically: getting past a LJBF

[masterp]

I've been reading the DJ Bible "religiously" and getting heaps of great insight here at the forum too, but at the risk of overthinking the possibilities, I do like to think ahead with some things...

Let's say you're making (or at least think you're making) some progress with a lady but get LJBF-ed after a while. What is your best approach for having another attempt somewhere down the line if the girl is really special? Surely some of you have had a second crack at it and either succeeded or found out that LJBF was the final answer.

Trying other women is one obvious step to moving along, but what do you do with the "friend" in the meantime? Do the friend thing or just back off and see if there's another window of opportunity later? Ignoring them would make you seem one-track-minded, yet doing the friend thing just further grows that concept in the lady's mind.

There's a really psycology to this scenario that interests me, even though it's not a problem I have to face right now.

Looking forward to your thoughts or tales of success/failure.

 

[masterp]

double post. sorry

 

[Ice Cold]

Yeah, if you want to break the LJBF thing, you need to:

Stop talking to her like you don't know her anymore
Stop looking at her
Date other girls
Be seen with/kissing/hugging other girls
Be polite with her when she talks to you, but ininterested
Make her friends beleive you're a great catch

It would also help you if you made a list of what she's done to you, except offer a slight chance of blowing you.

 

[masterp]

Originally posted by Ice Cold

Date other girls
Be seen with/kissing/hugging other girls

Does the jealousy angle ever backfire? For instance, would they think you hadn't cared about them in the first place if you moved on so quickly and blantantly?

I would still like to hear from anyone else who may have succeeded or totally lost out after having another go at a LJBF kinda girl.

 

[dig it]

I got ljbf'ed by a girl about 6 months ago.

I started teasing her, mucking around, taking nothing seriously, giving less of myself, told her to shut up a few times,didnt return her phone calls if i could help it, i blew her kisses then did the finger (with a smile), all sorts of funny, mixed things.

i did care for her. i did like her a lot, but i wasnt going to suck up to her.

ended up having a great sexual relationship with her until she moved away to the other side of the city, and we did get along great and appreciated each other, and it was hot.

i remember telling another girl who i was going after that this girl used me as a sex toy.

that was over email, and back then i had trouble writting emails in getting my point across, so i am not sure if it came off well.

but i am an honest person too, and i am protective and warm and funny and charming. so, if you would be in with a chance under normal circumstances, you would be if you got ljbf.

i really think its if the person could like you at all in that way. but then again, you are learning some good techniques here on how to act around women and be the man you were meant to be.

i did ALL of what i just told you before i ever came onto this site. naturally gifted? yuh.

ok ok. i got lucky cos thats how i usually act when a girl snubs me and i like her and i think she is being a bit ify about the whole thing.

i guess i just had to prove to her....and yes, i was seeing other people too.

you gotta show you are a great catch, and basically, be the great catch.

being friends with a girl is not so bad, man. as long as you are seeing other girls who you like as well (or dont like)

it all went down for her when i said i got laid by some girl who i didnt even know in the city one night (i fingered her in a club, she sat on a low stool facing me, with her legs apart near closing time this was, and actually grabbed my hand and pulled aside her knickers and let me finger her, then we rooted in the car lot 30 mins later, we were kissing all night too and she was on my lap and imitating sex and stupid sh!t like that)....

and anyways, i let some of this out, and yeh, gave her the shaft again in a funny way. i think i pushed her playfully or something, saying "get out of here, all girls are not like that, just look at you!

and about 10 mins later, i was going to leave the house, i could see her attitude had changed, she was making better eye contact with me, he face had a different expression (yup, she saw me as potential material again, mainly due to her own feeling of lowliness), and when i was about to leave she pushed me, and i turned around and there she was, so i grabbed her and started kissing her, and man, when i say, her mouth was mine, i mean her mouth was mine.

all the weeks of sexual tension had built up so much, that soon after when i rammed my divck into her, she was wet as a bucket full of water. we screwed each other on the carpet in the doorway, after i pitifully tried to kick the door shut a little, it was pretty much shut tho.


just an insight into one of my things.
so yeh, friends are friends, until you have sex with them.

live and learn

 

[dig it]

Now i am making a double post.

if its one thing i can say to sum it all up, about my experience at least, is this:

be a challenge to her. dont hang on her, keep your distance. be funny, indirect, be arrogant...****/funny works wonders with this type of girl, lets you get away with a lot.

develop a couldnt care less attitude around her, but not to the point of "i dont want to know you or you repulse me."

practice all the don juan techniques on this site, there is no one simple fix.

you want to make her see you in a different light remember, cos what you were doing before was not working, so why keep doing it?

u gotta lift your game.

if she is extra special, that is. there are plenty of women out there, go get some of them and you might forget about her, because its probably a waste of time. thats the don juan mindset, no one girl should fill your mind such as this, you'll lose.

look at me, i didn't turn this girl into my wife or anything. we just let it happen after that.

before, i really didnt give a sh!t one was or the other deep down, i was seeing other people what did i care, more of a prove it thing it was. like i said, that was before this site.

sorta fun it was.

 

[dig it]

oh yeh, the jealousy mindset.

no, jealousy is a great thing, in other people.

since when does jealousy backfire?

if you totally p!ssed her off, it would, because she might come after you and try and murder you.

but really, if she is jealous, she will act on the jealousy, in your favour.

jealousy wont backfire, dont rub her nose in it. Maybe thats what you are thinking. Thats what not to do, u want this to be natural, and you have to do it natural.

dont worry about her being jealous, let her get jealous all on her own, its her problem then. live without retraint or worrying about her feelings...worry about you and how you treat people. dont call it worry, call it looking out for yourself. but jealousy on her part has nothing to do with you feeling bad....thats chump behavior...."oh i made her jealous...bad me"....wrong!

you made her jealous = "well, its your loss, and now, i have to get on with my life if you dont want to go out with me"

take care of yourself, and if she wants a piece of the pie, so be it. how much is up to you.

why should you waste time on other peoples feelings who mean nothing in any real sense yet to you? when she falls in love, thats when you can take a keen interest in what she's feeling, and even then, be careful.

 

[DJ_Dork]

sounds like too much work to get inside the girl's panties. ugh... been there done that.. it's not fun. just do the ignore routine and if she wants to "hang out" then do reciprocate after that.

 

[Ice Cold]

Originally posted by masterp
Does the jealousy angle ever backfire? For instance, would they think you hadn't cared about them in the first place if you moved on so quickly and blantantly?

Don't move quickly and blatantly. Don't just turn your back on her and talk to other chicks. You still talk to the target, and maintain friendly convos. But she'll sense that there are other women in your life and her competitive spirit will work for you. Plus, she'll realize that she had you and this will drive her even more.