"Hypergamy" is a security blanket for insecure males

[Newbee2]

To you that seems like it's hypergamy.

To me it's just survival, with the feminine imperative pushing women to get the most out for her and her future offsprings.

Feminine imperative = Her survival 1st (inclusive lifestyle) and 2nd that of her offspring.

It's in all women, in all countries.

It's biological not cultural.

And what do you call this? survival? Is it survival in western countries too?

 

[Spaz]

And what do you call this? survival? Is it survival in western countries too?

Yes. When poor it's survival, when rich its maintaining her lifestyle.

So women will manipulate to achieve it subconsciously.

Basically everything a woman does is in one way or the other very much set by her basic programming = feminine imperative.

The feminine imperative is an important tool for the survival of humanity.

And we men must recognise that in order to use it to our benefit.

 

[user43770]

Hypergamy (or feminine imperative) and Briffault's Law are still the foundation of the red-pill, in my opinion.

Men need to learn early that women aren't the innocent little creatures that society portrays, and that they aren't capable of the kind of utter loyalty that men are. It's not in their nature.

I'm sure women have a similar feeling when they get older and see that most men aren't attracted to them anymore. Realizing that the world isn't what you thought it was is tough for everyone.

 

[user43770]

Reading my earlier posts, I see that I wasn't making the point that I intended.

I wasn't referring to success with women in a general sense - as in the ability to talk to women and get laid - but in LTRs. Completely different things.

When a woman leaves a man after a LTR, you can't always blame it on the man's lack of qualities or leadership skills. Many times these are a factor, sure, but sometimes there is nothing you can do. Sometimes the grass was actually greener on the other side.

I was taught by my parents at an early age that you can't be the best in everything. As I got older and gained experience, I saw it for myself. You can't always accomplish what you set your mind to, despite what my teachers and coaches said while I was growing up. We millennials sure were a coddled generation.

 

[user43770]

Been saying that since forever, based on my experiences with women 1 on 1. But more interestingly or probably importantly in coming on to "taken" girls in the cold approach.

Any guy can find this out in an afternoon.

Day-game is a bit different, though. It's easy for a chick to turn you down when you're at the grocery store...try it again at the bar on a Friday night, when her boyfriend is out of town. Odds increase tenfold!

Though, AWALT is one thing I never agreed with in the manosphere. Obviously there are exceptions. My mom, of course; my brother's wife, probably...

I kid. I've met some very respectable women in my lifetime.

 

[user43770]

My findings have been that women aren't so quick to overlook an emotional investment, even when I've been considerably better (by my opinion) than her guy (they show you on their phones occasionally).

Women still have a flirt, because they enjoy it. And when starting out, it's easily mistaken for interest. As you grind through rejections, it's much easier to tell quick, and a bit predictable. These sorts have good boundaries. I think boundaries is the key thing.

America has been in the grip of feminism for a long time. The "find yourself" and "yolo" mentality is prevalent pretty much everywhere you go.

You think our ancestors would have fought in WW2 if they could see where we are now?

 

[user43770]

I honestly have no idea the answer to that.

I do. They would be appalled.

 

[skinnyguy]

Yes. When poor it's survival, when rich its maintaining her lifestyle.

So women will manipulate to achieve it subconsciously.

Basically everything a woman does is in one way or the other very much set by her basic programming = feminine imperative.

The feminine imperative is an important tool for the survival of humanity.

And we men must recognise that in order to use it to our benefit.

You are on point. Darwin can explain most of the female behavior we see today.

 

[user43770]

You are on point. Darwin can explain most of the female behavior we see today.

You know he just summarized rollo's definition of hypergamy, right?

Better question. Does @Spaz know that?

 

[Spaz]

You know he just summarized rollo's definition of hypergamy, right?

Better question. Does @Spaz know that?

The last time I Googled hypergamy, it's women trading up for a high valued man.

 

[Spaz]

Reading my earlier posts, I see that I wasn't making the point that I intended.

I wasn't referring to success with women in a general sense - as in the ability to talk to women and get laid - but in LTRs. Completely different things.

When a woman leaves a man after a LTR, you can't always blame it on the man's lack of qualities or leadership skills. Many times these are a factor, sure, but sometimes there is nothing you can do. Sometimes the grass was actually greener on the other side.

I was taught by my parents at an early age that you can't be the best in everything. As I got older and gained experience, I saw it for myself. You can't always accomplish what you set your mind to, despite what my teachers and coaches said while I was growing up. We millennials sure were a coddled generation.

So you're a millennial, that explains this post.

Tell me your admirable qualities and I will tell you why the grass is greener on the other side.

 

[user43770]

The last time I Googled hypergamy, it's women trading up for a high valued man.

Ok. So you don't believe in hypergamy, yet you basically plagiarized Rollo's definition of hypergamy, in a thread about hypergamy.

Tell me more about your admirable qualities.

 

[Spaz]

Ok. So you don't believe in hypergamy, yet you basically plagiarized Rollo's definition of hypergamy, in a thread about hypergamy.

Tell me more about your admirable qualities.

Point out which part.

Be specific boy.

 

[user43770]

Point out which part.

Be specific boy.

Yes. When poor it's survival, when rich its maintaining her lifestyle.

So women will manipulate to achieve it subconsciously.

Basically everything a woman does is in one way or the other very much set by her basic programming = feminine imperative.

The feminine imperative is an important tool for the survival of humanity.

And we men must recognise that in order to use it to our benefit.

This part. Your entire post

 

[user43770]

You basically just changed "hypergamy" to "feminine imperative." I wouldn't be surprised if it was word for word out of The Rational Male

 

[user43770]

@Spaz I've never understood people that post a lot. How do you find the time? I work in construction, as a leader of men. You know, around the felons and low lifes that you like to denigrate. It's a different world than the one you live in, I'm sure.

For someone that seems to have it all, with a specialty in leadership qualities, in a high power position, how do you find the time to post dozens of times a day? Under multiple accounts. And plagiarize.

 

[MadMan]

You basically just changed "hypergamy" to "feminine imperative." I wouldn't be surprised if it was word for word out of The Rational Male

Spazm stealing from people he claims to never have heard of before and then changing the term.

For shame. Not surprised.

 

[MadMan]

@Spaz I've never understood people that post a lot. How do you find the time? I work in construction, as a leader of men. You know, around the felons and low lifes that you like to denigrate. It's a different world than the one you live in, I'm sure.

For someone that seems to have it all, with a specialty in leadership qualities, in a high power position, how do you find the time to post dozens of times a day? Under multiple accounts. And plagiarize.

Spazm is teaching the forums about hypergamy aka the feminine imperative by embracing his feminine side and trying to come up off his superiors online.

 

[user43770]

Spazm stealing from people he claims to never have heard of before and then changing the term.

For shame. Not surprised.

The fvcking audacity of it is incomprehensible to me.

 

[Spaz]

You basically just changed "hypergamy" to "feminine imperative." I wouldn't be surprised if it was word for word out of The Rational Male

Too bad I didn't read the rational male.

I was being gentle in my posts but I'll be blunt now.

The perception of high value men, which you think is Richie Rich is flawed. You think that because you max ur looks, you max ur status (work/money) and you maxed out reading all the available books on game that u r the shiet and can't understand why women leave ur noob ass so it must be hypergamy. A bunch of entitled men who thinks the world owes them a favor.

Yet Hypergamy doesn't seem to apply to a section of men who are go getters, they can be bums (drug dealers, conman, thief's, badboys etc), they can be jailbirds, they can be anything under the sun even a brick layer or some azzhole but they all have something in common - a go getter.

Do you think a go getter wise in the ways of the world not dismiss a woman who steps out of line or even would allow his women to disrespect him?

Now explain how can hypergamy exist when it's doesn't apply to all?