Hybrid (Corolla, Camry, Civic) vs none Hybrid?

[Scaramouche]

There’s been no difference whatsoever in tire wear in my experience and I’ve never heard this be a concern among hybrid or EV cars.

Hi EyeBRollin,
Batteries are very Heavy,compared to similar sized conventional vehicles..EV's are heavier on tyres and brake shoes...I only saw my first EV last year,first charging Station only six months ago...But you have seven years practical experience and you like them,I shall try and keep an open mind.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Hi EyeBRollin,
Batteries are very Heavy,compared to similar sized conventional vehicles..EV's are heavier on tyres and brake shoes...I only saw my first EV last year,first charging Station only six months ago...But you have seven years practical experience and you like them,I shall try and keep an open mind.

EV batteries have only gotten lighter. You have to look at the total curb weight of the vehicle. Engine has weight of its own, as does fuel, transmission, fluid etc. My volt is 3500 lbs and has both battery and engine. my previous car was an ICE that shared the same chassis and weighted 3200 lbs. That 300 lbs has a negligible effect on braking as already mentioned in this thread EVs and hybrids do not use their mechanical brakes at all outside of emergency stopping. You will not need brake maintenance with these cars.

 

[Bible_Belt]

A friend has the new Nissan ev. He got a sweetheart deal, because he works for the company and they werent selling very many.
They let him charge it for free at work. I've learned a few things from him, like when they advertise a range, that is during warm weather. A 300 mile range is 200 miles when it is cold outside.

Also, there is a big difference between the basic charging stations versus the fast ones. It's drastic, like six hours versus six minutes. So the location of these fast chargers is critical to planning a long trip. It works well when he stays on the interstate highway, but not for rural meandering.

It does seem like a bullsh1t that Tesla charging stations are not compatible with other cars. It's ridiculous to have to build double the infrastructure.

 

[The Duke]

There’s been no difference whatsoever in tire wear in my experience and I’ve never heard this be a concern among hybrid or EV cars.

Depends on driving habits. I've heard of many complain about it. Going thru tires on their Tesla in 25k miles.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Depends on driving habits. I've heard of many complain about it. Going thru tires on their Tesla in 25k miles.

Most Tesla are AWD and IIRC use cheap tires. Just get tires with a tread wear warranty. The OEM I had was Michelin Energy Savers, a 50K tire.

A friend has the new Nissan ev. He got a sweetheart deal, because he works for the company and they werent selling very many.
They let him charge it for free at work. I've learned a few things from him, like when they advertise a range, that is during warm weather. A 300 mile range is 200 miles when it is cold outside.

Also, there is a big difference between the basic charging stations versus the fast ones. It's drastic, like six hours versus six minutes. So the location of these fast chargers is critical to planning a long trip. It works well when he stays on the interstate highway, but not for rural meandering.

It does seem like a bullsh1t that Tesla charging stations are not compatible with other cars. It's ridiculous to have to build double the infrastructure.

Yeah range drops off in the winter, it can be up to 50% lower. Electric is less efficient at heat generation. Plug-in hybrids will often use the gas engine for heat in this scenarios. The flip side is there is less of an A/C penalty vs ICE in hot weather.

There are 3 charging levels:
Level 1: all EVs come with a power cord. You can plug this into any standard outlet. It nets 3-4 miles per hour of charge. Charges an EV in 3 days, plug in hybrid in 12 hours.

Level 2: This is standard level Installed at home stations and in most public chargers. Nets 20-25 miles per hour of charge. Charges an EV in 8-10 hours, plug-in hybrid in 2.

Level 3: Tesla Superchargers and Fast Chargers. Only see these at rest areas. Charges an EV 150 miles in a half hour of charge. Incompatible with plug-in hybrids.

Tesla chargers are mechanically compatible with other brands of EVs. It’s a matter of if Elon wants to open them up.