How'd I do with this text convo?

Scion

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So I'm still getting together a few people for going out this sat. Saw this girl today who gave me her # awhile back (and holy **** she's turned into a tanning junkie). Anyway, shot her a text inviting her out a few minutes ago

me:Hey Oompa Loompa girl, what u up to sat night?
Hb:I have a hott date
me:Cool cool. Was gonna invite u somewhere fun, but now no fun for u
hb:Im alrdy havin fun :p loser lol :)
me:Lol, I'm the loser, at least I'm not orange :p Hope this guy likes creamsicles lmao :)
hb:Yeah he likes when i melt in his mouth lmao
me:Wait, should it be the other way around? I think your doing it wrong, I'd be more than happy to give you a lesson ;)

she hasn't responded to that last one so I doubt think it be a good idea to send off another. Anyway, how'd you guys think I did? I'd say she's not interested but than again I have no real idea.
 

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Lol, IMO that's too strong, you revealed your intention straight away without building enough sexual tension. Building sexual tension in person is easiest, with text you are limited to words on a screen, in person you can do kino, alter the tone of your voice, use facial expressions, observe her nonverbal signs etc.

That last text basically said "Yeah cool whatever. I want to fvck you! Sex?". She may have been freaked out and turned off because you were too intense straight away, like a horny little chihuahua that runs up to people and humps their leg, hence no reply. It's not a good sign if she's been texting you frequently and then suddenly stops.

In future, build enough sexual tension first before trying that kindof thing.

Actually, for the above advice to be valid, I gotta ask,what's your history with this girl? Have you built up sexual tension in the past/got a kiss close/f-close before? If so, and if her personality isn't too reserved, it should be ok even though it was slightly too sexual haha.
 

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Scion said:
Anyway, how'd you guys think I did? I'd say she's not interested but than again I have no real idea.
What gave you that impression? The fact that she told you about her hot date, called you a loser, and talked about melting in this guy's mouth all in one text conversation?
 

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Iceberg said:
What gave you that impression? The fact that she told you about her hot date, called you a loser, and talked about melting in this guy's mouth all in one text conversation?
lol, yeah most girls aren't interested in me. And frankly I don't even give a damn anymore, I'm just gonna say and do what I want. What's the worse that can happen? They will like me even less. Who cares, they are just women.

Besides, I think she was kidding about those 2 last things.
 

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I think you put your ENTIRE game all into that one opening line, thinking that busting on her tanning obsession by calling her an Oompa Loompa would seal the deal for you.

First of all, her COMFORT level with you determines what you can talk about with her, without driving her away. It's kind of a measurement of how much tension she can take, and depending on your past relationship with this specific girl and how long it's been since you last spent time with her.
You may have known better than to try to ask her out through a text conversation, INSTEAD of on the spot, RIGHT when you saw her.

You're probably familiar with the word congruency. In this text conversation, you got more and more INCONGRUENT as it progressed.

Let me break this down for you individually, starting with her:

Hb:I have a hott date
hb:Im alrdy havin fun :p loser lol :)
hb:Yeah he likes when i melt in his mouth lmao
All ****y lines for the most part. Notice how she doesn't exert much effort, and she calls you a loser very quickly. This is playful isn't it? She did put the ":p lol :)" smooshed beside the word "loser," so that makes it playful, right?

I suspect she was coming from a position of higher status, and this was also in fact a test.

In the last line, she's just teasing you...I sense a braggy tone about it too, which could mean that she was leading you on for fun. She sounded very ****y.

Scion said:
me:Hey Oompa Loompa girl, what u up to sat night?
me:Cool cool. Was gonna invite u somewhere fun, but now no fun for u
me:Lol, I'm the loser, at least I'm not orange :p Hope this guy likes creamsicles lmao :)
me:Wait, should it be the other way around? I think your doing it wrong, I'd be more than happy to give you a lesson ;)
Okay, I have a problem with your first line. I really liked the Oompa Loompa thing in there (I just looked at some pics of them on google and they look like sunburned little weirdos, very funny to call a girl that,) but you start right away with "What u up to Sat night?" which is moving a little too fast in my opinion.

I don't think "At least I'm not orange" really passes her shyt test...You kinda set yourself up for this though by asking what she was doing.

It just went COMPLETELY downhill from there.

Okay. Now how can you improve your game?
I have a few things for you:

1) If you're going to go in with a ****y attitude, be able to back yourself up with CONGRUENCY because, as soon as you called her an Oompa Loompa, it was on, and you lost when you failed her shyt test.

2) Learn C&F; you're not going to become a natural just by trying it now and then, you have to put some time and effort into learning it.

And, most importantly:

3) DON'T text girls that you are interested in for conversational purposes, unless for some reason she can't use the phone, or if you're texting her to get ready to be picked up. Something trivial like that.

Try brainstorming some other things that you could have said in response to her shyt test as a little exercise.

All in all, I wouldn't get my hopes up about this girl, but you're here to improve and that's exactly what you're doing by having this experience, so consider this a victory for the long-term!
 

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Not sure if the oompa lompa line was something you worked into your attraction in person before texting her but just going in with that probably offended her. You over did it on attraction (most common pua mistake)

She responded by trying to get back at you saying she's with another guy and calling you a loser (kind of a ***** but warranted). You then feed into her negative perception of you by getting upset and making fun of her back. At this point you're probably already done unless you pull of some miracle game.

Then at the end you just go for the hail mary by telling her your interest after flat out making fun of her. Why would she text back? She is confused as hell by all this.

Your attraction needs some work. Do some research on this, attraction is not about making fun of her. It should be light and playful.
 

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I used the Oompa Loompa joke just because I teased her a bit because she was orange when I saw her. I was just trying to tease her, not outright offend her. I doubt I offended her, every time I see her she's ****y and tries to tease me (usually lame stuff like "You ugly"). I agree that I'm unlikely to pull anything out of this. Other than a couple months ago when she seemed very interested in going out (she ask when when I was gonna ask her out) she hasn't seemed interested at all. And no I didn't really do anything to turn her off, we tried to set something up and she couldn't make it at the last minute. After that she started dating some guy.
 

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Honestly, contrary to what everyone else is saying I think you did pretty good. You kept it light and playful. Maybe the last line could have been a little strong but not if you have already teased her in that way before. Maybe she just likes the attention and has a low interest in you. Texting someone who already has low interest isn't going to save you.

Then again I think the fact that she mentioned she "has a hot date" means she was challenging you playfully. I think she does have interest in you. If she really had a date and had little interest in you she would have told you she was busy or gave some other excuse and she wouldn't have pursued the conversation anymore.

I say you continue to pursue, what do you have to lose?
 

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how I would have reasponed
me:yo Oompa Loompa , me and some friends kicking it sat night u should come and bring some home girls -not a date just hanging out the key is to get her over <<< open offer >>>>>
Hb:I have a hott date<<<<<<tryna bait you **** test>>>>>> probably lying if the date does go sour if she rejected you she b kicking herself for not going out/kicking it with you
me:eek: yea i 4got what time was I suppose to pick you up again i 4 got we made plans<<<<<reframing the convo at least you come off as u forgot yall had a date whats the worst that could happen u threw a curveball in the convo


hb:Im alrdy havin fun loser lol
me:Lol, I'm the loser, at least I'm not orange :p Hope this guy likes creamsicles lmao <<<<<<ok kinda cf>>>>>>
hb:Yeah he likes when i melt in his mouth lmao<<<<<she toying with you again
me:Wait, should it be the other way around?. I think your doing it wrong I'd be more than happy to give you a lesson .jokes definatly not funny way to strong you bombed out bro
 

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It´s true what other guys say in the thread about not building sexual tension but it is also true that this girl is a validation seeking Freak.

When you are dealing with a Freak you can also build sexual tension by being even more a Freak than her.. that´s hard game but it can get you laid a lot.

Beware: if you run this same kind of game with a girl who is not a Freak than you become a turn off for her. The way of building sexual tension is different depending on the personality of the woman.

Now basing on how she relates to you I assume this girl is a Freak and here is what I would do.. ( I am not gay I just use the gay thing to reflect her back her freaky behavior )

I understand that in your game you also try to reflect her freaky behavior back to her but you make a mistake her: you acknowledge directly the other guy thus building a logical frame "you versus the other guy"

If she is a Freak she will be motivated to get to you only by more excitement, validation and especially if you show that you do not give a **** about competition.

Freaks are unconsciously screening all the time for the guy who is more of an ******* compared to the other guys.

me:Hey Oompa Loompa girl, what u up to sat night?
Hb:I have a hott date

Franco: "Oh.. is that a girl or a boy? I mean... sounds exciting. Don´t tell me you are dating a girl.. I knew you are wild but did not know that much" ( misinterpreting her **** test and accusing her of being lesbian )

me:Cool cool. Was gonna invite u somewhere fun, but now no fun for u
hb:Im alrdy havin fun :p loser lol :)

Franco: "I am coming out of the gym and have a couple of hours free. Come to Daddy" ( giving her an order: again turning her **** test around into "i am the prize )

me:Lol, I'm the loser, at least I'm not orange :p Hope this guy likes creamsicles lmao :)
hb:Yeah he likes when i melt in his mouth lmao

Franco: "Oh... so that WAS a boy. Is he hot? If so I want to do him myself" ( here I pretend to be gay but actually what I am doing is creating a DOMINANT image above her AND HIM = I do both of them )

me:Wait, should it be the other way around? I think your doing it wrong, I'd be more than happy to give you a lesson ;)

This was a good one but it´s difficult to create a dominant image after having acknowledged the other guy..

>she hasn't responded to that last one so I doubt think it be a good idea to >send off another. Anyway, how'd you guys think I did? I'd say she's not >interested but than again I have no real idea.

Basing on the way she relates to you I would say she is interested in ALL what creates good shaking feelings in her right now.
 
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