how would you handle this?

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i would have posted this earlier today but my son's birthday party was earlier and i was busy with that.

anyway, this has been brought to my attetention and i am curious as to how you would deal with it or woudl you deal with it at all for no other reason than pure hypothethical situtational handling purposes.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2012/06/chantal-sutherland-jockey-horse-race

this is Chantal Sutherland. late 30's, to be her age she's a very beautiful woman. this is her naked on the back of a horse lol.

the reason i posted this here is that, she just got engaged not too long ago after breaking up with another jockey who would not marry her. not soon after she leaves him, she agrees to do this bit here, and gets engaged to this man not a few months after meeting him. the man has made a good living i forgot what he does but he's not going to be starving anytime soon i promise you that.

anyway, would you let your new fiancee pose naked in a magizine? i couldn't do that. i know men look at my wife but when you get engaged to me that still means half ass of something and to some extent, the imancy of seeing you naked belongs to him.

how would you deal with this? it doesn't take very long to conclude this guy is a chump just happy to get a shot with a woman this good looking or so he thinks.

my thoery she is an alpha widow and all this is just to get back at the guy who left her. kinda like "see what you aren't getting" type deal.


anyway how would you handle this?

it's a tricky situation becuase, if i can be honest, if this is a situtation that you have to handle in the first place, it really shows the lack of moral character your future bride has. it's like saying how do you handle your wife coming to you and telling you that she wants to be a stripper lol. for her to even suggest posing butt naked for the world to see after i put a ring on your finger would be enough for me to bounce.
 

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I don't think I'd allow it.
Your girl's body is for you and no one else.
Maybe the dude is AFC and never really had control of the frame.
Now he's being led around by the d1ck and beyond the point of no return.
Damn she's hot though. Nothing like the jockeys we have in Australia. There was one pretty hot one and we got her to ride our horse one day purely so we could hit on her.
But she put in possibly one of the worst rides I've ever seen and we sacked her. With Chantal though, I think she'd have to put in a few bad rides before I sacked her. ;-)
 

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iono backbreaker as much as it is easy to say that this guy is AFC for doing that, it gets super hard to control such a career driven woman (in a man's sport) especially in a situation where her income is like what....100:1 ratio? I don't know who this girl is but that article states she made like 45 million and I could foresee that the guy made no more than 1 million in earnings till now.

You can put your foot down and say no, but I don't see this type of girl budging at all. I could imagine the scenario is you leave or she does that photo shoot.

So the real underlying question is....would you leave her or would you allow her to take that shoot?

If it were me even if I had to lose her I would have to draw the line and say f it I don't want that. If I lose her so be it. I'd rather not walk on eggshells and get dragged along no matter how pretty a girl is. That's just a setup for disaster in the future.
 

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backbreaker said:
my thoery she is an alpha widow and all this is just to get back at the guy who left her. kinda like "see what you aren't getting" type deal.

anyway how would you handle this?
Agreed. I'd pass. Tell her I don't think a wannabe porn star is wife and mother material, and good luck in her career, see you around n sh1t.
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The guy who left her must be feeling happy.
I will def dump her after she does something like this
 

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backbreaker said:
my thoery she is an alpha widow and all this is just to get back at the guy who left her. kinda like "see what you aren't getting" type deal.

This would be more my concern than her posing naked.

I'd probably be thinking, well.. i think this girl is still hung up on her ex. But also would be thinking that I'm a fool for not proper screening and jumping on the chance to marry her because she's "hot". So I'd be more concerned with my own AFCness than anything else.
 

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It's ironic that everyone hates religion, and yet still clings to all of the backward bullsh!t ideas about sex, which exist only because of our long history of religion. Women are property. They should be ashamed of their bodies. If they show cleavage, that makes them wh0res. Only a woman's husband is ever allowed to look at her. A sexual history makes her damaged goods.

The church has fought for thousands of years to make you believe all of those things. And they won.
 

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Well, you can't really see anything, can you? In that respect, it's kind of like the picture of a pregnant Demi Moore on the cover. I'm not sure how I'd handle it, honestly. I don't approve, but I'm not sure it would be a dealbreaker.

What's up, BB? I thought you were tired of blondes.

I'm glad you posted this, actually, because it puts the lie to the idea that women can no longer be attractive after 30. That's a lie that gets repeated an awful lot on this forum. This girl is clearly very fit and in shape, and that's a big key. Not all women turn into a pumpkin once they hit 30. Then there's the whole MILF thing. I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

I've always thought that women were natural exhibitionists. They like to see the reaction they can get with their bodies. That said, I wonder what her motivation is for doing this? She surely can't need the money. Maybe after her divorce she needs to do something to make her feel sexy again, I don't know. Sounds like she wanted to do it for the experience of it.
 

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zekko said:
Well, you can't really see anything, can you? In that respect, it's kind of like the picture of a pregnant Demi Moore on the cover. I'm not sure how I'd handle it, honestly. I don't approve, but I'm not sure it would be a dealbreaker.

What's up, BB? I thought you were tired of blondes.

I'm glad you posted this, actually, because it puts the lie to the idea that women can no longer be attractive after 30. That's a lie that gets repeated an awful lot on this forum. This girl is clearly very fit and in shape, and that's a big key. Not all women turn into a pumpkin once they hit 30. Then there's the whole MILF thing. I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

I've always thought that women were natural exhibitionists. They like to see the reaction they can get with their bodies. That said, I wonder what her motivation is for doing this? She surely can't need the money. Maybe after her divorce she needs to do something to make her feel sexy again, I don't know. Sounds like she wanted to do it for the experience of it.
oh she's smoking honestly but she works very hard to stay in shape. jogs 5-6 miles everyday eats pretty healthy, etc. but she is good looking even with dirt and **** all over her face lol

I don't think I'd allow it.
Your girl's body is for you and no one else.
Maybe the dude is AFC and never really had control of the frame.
Now he's being led around by the d1ck and beyond the point of no return.
Damn she's hot though. Nothing like the jockeys we have in Australia. There was one pretty hot one and we got her to ride our horse one day purely so we could hit on her.
But she put in possibly one of the worst rides I've ever seen and we sacked her. With Chantal though, I think she'd have to put in a few bad rides before I sacked her. ;-)
you have to be talking about Kathy O'Hara. i actually won some money on her a few weeks ago. she's not a top class jockey but she's not the worst i have ever seen she's good on the smaller circuits. needs to do something with those teeth though but very good looking.

ono backbreaker as much as it is easy to say that this guy is AFC for doing that, it gets super hard to control such a career driven woman (in a man's sport) especially in a situation where her income is like what....100:1 ratio? I don't know who this girl is but that article states she made like 45 million and I could foresee that the guy made no more than 1 million in earnings till now.
she doesn't make THAT much money. she is canadian and made more money up there as it's not a top tier circuit but they have slots and they infuse the purses with extra money and she was a top 3 jock there.. too complicated for this thread to explain. but mike smith who was her ex rides in socal here and she came here in the winter every year when they weren't running up there and she decided last year to stay for good down here. since then she hasn't been making that much moeny as she did up there. she's not a bad jockey at all and is deserving to ride on a top tier circuit but she isn't one of the top 5 or maybe even top 10 on the circuit down here. she rides one really good horse regualrly who is a top class horse but ohter than that she scraps by, relativly speaking. she gets 10% of all purse money she makes last year i think she had like 5 million in purse money so that's 500,000k and she has to give 25% of tht to her agent so she probably cleared 350k or something like that last year which isn't struggling but it's not just being a millionare. thoughj i am pretty sure she gets endoursements and money for stuf like this too.+
 

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backbreaker said:
oh she's smoking honestly but she works very hard to stay in shape. jogs 5-6 miles everyday eats pretty healthy, etc.
That's the cool thing about being an athlete. Basically you get paid to stay in shape.

backbreaker said:
she probably cleared 350k or something like that last year
Maybe money was a motivation factor in doing the shoot after all.
Think about it, it's probably the ultimate in validation. We will pay you a lot of money because a lot of people want to see you naked lol.

Again though, you can't really see anything. It's not much more revealing than a bikini shoot.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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Bible_Belt said:
It's ironic that everyone hates religion, and yet still clings to all of the backward bullsh!t ideas about sex, which exist only because of our long history of religion. Women are property. They should be ashamed of their bodies. If they show cleavage, that makes them wh0res. Only a woman's husband is ever allowed to look at her. A sexual history makes her damaged goods.

The church has fought for thousands of years to make you believe all of those things. And they won.

Well, yes and no. Marriage is effectively the man purchasing the woman's fertility. In return for this, a woman was given domain over the home and kids, provided for, and not left for want or need. At least that's what it was in days gone by. Now women don't need men for provisioning so they feel entitled to use their fertility however they see fit. This is what men need to get through their heads, to understand why marriage is a fools errand. Women are not required to limit their fertility and sexuality to only their husbands anymore. She's just doing what women feel they're entitled to do these days, never mind the fact the new guy put a down payment on her, so to speak.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
It's ironic that everyone hates religion, and yet still clings to all of the backward bullsh!t ideas about sex, which exist only because of our long history of religion. Women are property. They should be ashamed of their bodies. If they show cleavage, that makes them wh0res. Only a woman's husband is ever allowed to look at her. A sexual history makes her damaged goods.

The church has fought for thousands of years to make you believe all of those things. And they won.
Because people want what they like and throw out the stuff they don't want. Most (not all, but pretty close) guy's on forum's like this are anti religion because it facilitates their goal of banging a lot of women. And they think it makes them wise or a man of the world, because they aren't "brainwashed" by the "church".
 
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