how was this email?

[DJArlington]

This is a copy of an email i just sent to two chicks i met last sat night, was this good or bad? man i hate email...

Hi XXX and YYY,
How are you both?
I had a great time hanging out last Saturday night.

ZZZZ and I (and a few other friends) will be going either to blah blah place or blah blah place on Saturday night probably around 10:30. We'll most likely pre-party at my place starting around 9:30.

It would be great if you both could make it out. Let me know your plans.

Talk to you soon,

DJArlington

 

[FM 3321]

It sounds too needy to me but that's just my opinion. Also doesn't seem direct enough (either, most likely) sounds like you're not sure. How would you send an email to one of your guy friends? You probably would say "hey Joe, could you make it out?"

Then again they might love you so much you could say anything and have them come over. Personally I need more experience with women so at this point I'm just throwing out theory here. Hopefully others can chime in with their experiences.

 

[DJArlington]

hmmm. it might come off as needy, i hope not though. we'll see what their response is... when i reply back to their emails, and if they say they can't make it out, i will simply say that's cool may be another time and leave it open ended... that way i won't come off as needy whatsoever.

appreciate the input.

 

[Jitterbug]

If you're sending it to party chicks, you'll come off as a typical nice-guy.

How are you both?
I had a great time hanging out last Saturday night.

.....

It would be great if you both could make it out. Let me know your plans.

Talk to you soon,

ZzzZzzzz....

Too nice and too accommodating. It sounds like it comes straight off the How To Be A Nice Guy script.

when i reply back to their emails, and if they say they can't make it out, i will simply say that's cool may be another time and leave it open ended... that way i won't come off as needy whatsoever.

No you won't come off as needy. You will come off as the super accommodating guy who would very much appreciate their girly arses if they could come and see you again, but if it doesn't fit with their plans, that's OK too, and you'll still appreciate it and maybe you all can meet another time when their highnesses aren't so busy. A guy who's busy & popular doesn't have time to be so accommodating to chicks he's only just met. He'll make more definite dates/plans and tell them to come join him.

You need a more decisive & personal touch in that email. Something that is You. Some humour, some ****iness, some commanding aura, as if you're writing to your best mates. Sharper, wittier, more intense, more partying vibe. The vibe people would get from that email is some pretty tame Victorian-era dinner dance.

 

[DJArlington]

could someone give me an example of a better email?

 

[mrRuckus]

This sort of thing works for me but of course i've already set that vibe from in person so they don't just think i'm being a dumb jackass:





Dear compatriots,

It's DJArlington from xxx bar on Saturday. Remember me? Of course you do! I was the pushover chump who bought you 7 drinks. I mean the incredibly attractive one. Sorry I get confused sometimes.

We're going to blah blah at blah blah date. The liquid courage starts at 9:30 at my place and we'll head out about 10:30. I guess I will let you two come along, but only if you can promise to control yourselves. I just got new carpet, and I'm doing my best to put some faith into you, so please don't disappoint me.

Please let me know by Thursday so we can (strikethrough)get other girls to buy our drinks (/ strikethrough) make other plans if need be... and include your phone number.


Excellently mine,

DJArlington, Esq.

 

[Deep Dish]

First of all, these girls share an email address? I doubt it. In fact, even if they do jointly hold an account, I would venture to assume they don't even check it and your email has fallen on deaf ears. Even if the email is read, it's awkward to read an email only half addressed to you and asking for a joint decision.

Secondly, in your email, you're not particularly conversational and are rather truncated. What was so great about your time? I mean, what was memorable? There was also nothing in your email which conveyed your personality, so the bigger question is were you memorable? Imagine this: a week from now, if someone were to mention you to one of them, would they pause, scratch their head, or would they say "Of course I remember!"

Third, when women are interested they will counter-offer and convey a sense of wanting to see you again. They make things easy. Ergo, things will not bode well if you find yourself having to essentially say, "That's cool you don't want to hang out with me."

Fourth, always when it comes to writing, it helps tremendously to get into the emotional state which you want to convey.

 

[Trance_69]

You need to be more direct, what you wrote is too passive.
You need to tell the girls what your plans are and just letting them know, if they don't turn up, don't worry, if they do, bonus.
What mrRuckus wrote is great, it's fun, flirty and let's them know whats happening.
I especially like the "I guess I will let you two come along, but only if you can promise to control yourselves."
Sorry mrRuckus, I may have to steal that 1.

 

[FM 3321]

This sort of thing works for me but of course i've already set that vibe from in person so they don't just think i'm being a dumb jackass:





Dear compatriots,

It's DJArlington from xxx bar on Saturday. Remember me? Of course you do! I was the pushover chump who bought you 7 drinks. I mean the incredibly attractive one. Sorry I get confused sometimes.

We're going to blah blah at blah blah date. The liquid courage starts at 9:30 at my place and we'll head out about 10:30. I guess I will let you two come along, but only if you can promise to control yourselves. I just got new carpet, and I'm doing my best to put some faith into you, so please don't disappoint me.

Please let me know by Thursday so we can (strikethrough)get other girls to buy our drinks (/ strikethrough) make other plans if need be... and include your phone number.


Excellently mine,

DJArlington, Esq.

Haha.....that made me laugh a bit. That is a fun email.

 

[DJArlington]

i just got out a long, long relationship and have been on the prowl for about a week now. at least i have the balls to go up them, now i just have to tighten up my game with your advice and hopefully will be good to go.

is it important to stay a challenge to women who are in their 30s?

 

[Alexander the Great]

This is a copy of an email i just sent to two chicks i met last sat night, was this good or bad? man i hate email...

Hi XXX and YYY,
How are you both?
I had a great time hanging out last Saturday night.

ZZZZ and I (and a few other friends) will be going either to blah blah place or blah blah place on Saturday night probably around 10:30. We'll most likely pre-party at my place starting around 9:30.

It would be great if you both could make it out. Let me know your plans.

Talk to you soon,

DJArlington

I think it was a good e-mail, except for the bolded bits. Leave that out next time, it has an air of neediness and expectant passivity about it.

I mean, if they like to join you, they'll tell you and then you can take it from there.

Subsitute the "Talk to you soon" into something like "Later", or anything else that doesn't sound like you're waiting on them.

And I'll say again, if you don't like e-mail, then don't use it for anything other than asking phone numbers or the like. Use the medium you're most comfortable with. Writing is a hard art to master, for everyone. Even skilled PR pro's need days to get the perfect line right.

 

[FM 3321]

i just got out a long, long relationship and have been on the prowl for about a week now. at least i have the balls to go up them, now i just have to tighten up my game with your advice and hopefully will be good to go.

is it important to stay a challenge to women who are in their 30s?

This may seem like a vague answer but I believe it all boils down to becoming the real MAN that's inside of you. Not the boy that's afraid of what a woman will think if she knows you want to put her penis inside her vagina. I tend to believe that all women are 21 at heart. I remember dancing with a woman in her 50's at a club who said she was a hospital director and we were slow grinding (good times) and I was teasing her like she was 21. I think it's the men that are more uptight than women because at the end of the day it's the women that are reading romance novels that talk about a man eating her out and pulling her hair. I think as men we forget to have fun with these women because they "act" serious sometimes.

Women in their 20's are 21.
Women in their 30's are 21.
Women in their 40's are 21.
Women in their 50's are 21.
Women in their.....ok.


That's the current mindset that helps me. It may not work for others but nothing's really set in stone when it comes to dealing with women.

 

[Alexander the Great]

This may seem like a vague answer but I believe it all boils down to becoming the real MAN that's inside of you. Not the boy that's afraid of what a woman will think if she knows you want to put her penis inside her vagina. I tend to believe that all women are 21 at heart. I remember dancing with a woman in her 50's at a club who said she was a hospital director and we were slow grinding (good times) and I was teasing her like she was 21. I think it's the men that are more uptight than women because at the end of the day it's the women that are reading romance novels that talk about a man eating her out and pulling her hair. I think as men we forget to have fun with these women because they "act" serious sometimes.

Women in their 20's are 21.
Women in their 30's are 21.
Women in their 40's are 21.
Women in their 50's are 21.
Women in their.....ok.


That's the current mindset that helps me. It may not work for others but nothing's really set in stone when it comes to dealing with women.

It's not vague. Time and time again I have experienced that people of any age are no different then the small children they once were. Okay, the youngsters perhaps, in this case.

Without sounding too pedopheliac, adults are children with sexuality added. When I adapted this mindset, it made me look on the elderly not as elderly, but as people no different from me. (That's not to say I became and am a supernatural, on the contrary.) The whole serious, adult thing is really just an act. A play we all take part in. (And a silly play it is, if you ask me.)

So, good mantra I think, FM. See beyond the aged exterior and see the likeness inside.

 

[NewMan]

you know, you are all putting to much into this. Send the fvcking email, invite them out, then go about your business. If they don't show up, you've got your answer.

A couple of words in an email is not (in general) going to change anything. They already know if they are going to hang with you a 2nd time.

Don't over think it.

 

[DJArlington]

UMMM ALLOW ME TO STATE THE OBVIOUS..........U GOT EMAIL BUT NO NUMBER........STRIKE ONE.

I doubt if you demonstrated enough comfort building strike 2

U waited to long to email her.........strike 3

what did u use as a SUBJECT LINE, are you even sure its her EMAIL ADDRESS STRIKE 4

Now you are asking for a secondary email or better email.........dude you on the Titanic and the ship has broken in half and you are despretly hanging onto the rail. JUST LET IT GO...............

FOR FUTURE REFERENCE combining hook ups in field with online enticements can be tricky unless you are knowledgeable.

It comes down to email thats reaps success........and emails are primarily to bridge you to the phone call.

Guys, they emailed back saying they would love to hang out with me and my friend. What happened next totally sucked - my friend bailed, and then rest of my friends bailed - so I told the girls that my friends had to bail out. All my wingmen are married - totally sucks. Next, I saw those girls later on last night (because they text messaged where they were headed to) and the girl I liked showed little interest (why who the hell knows), though we were at a crowded table. If I had my wingman, I would have definitely done a little hooking up last night because we would have gone dancing and gotten wasted. They wouldn't have made alternative plans if he was coming, which is weird because they know he is married and has kids. They don't want him but he's fun to hang out with. I still can't figure out what the problem is with the girl that I like. One week has high interested, wanted to hang out last night with my friend and I, then when I saw her she wasn't that receptive (she was with a bunch of other girlfriends). I stayed with them for a drink and then left very quickly.

 

[Jitterbug]

You need new wings. Winging with married guys or guys in relationships is just begging for disasters.

so I told the girls that my friends had to bail out.

Why did you do that?

I still can't figure out what the problem is with the girl that I like. One week has high interested, wanted to hang out last night with my friend and I, then when I saw her she wasn't that receptive (she was with a bunch of other girlfriends). I stayed with them for a drink and then left very quickly.

Few girls are strong enough to be true to themselves and not affected by peer pressure. I wouldn't read too much into it. She'd likely be acting in front of her friends. She wouldn't show that she's really into you (if she indeed was) because she fears they might think she's easy. The exception is when you've somehow managed to get a few of her girls interested and in which case, rules be damned when you've already awaken their very competitive female nature in securing a desirable mate.

 

[DJArlington]

I did that because they were expected my friend to come out and that's what all my boyz said to do, so i listened. what i showed up without him? two girls and then just me. you know what i mean.

 

[Jitterbug]

I did that because they were expected my friend to come out and that's what all my boyz said to do, so i listened. what i showed up without him? two girls and then just me. you know what i mean.

Yeah, why not? What, you can't handle two girls? You can show up and tell them that your friend has a family emergency or something and apologize on his behalf, then proceed to have double the fun. Just because your married friends wussied out doesn't mean that you have to sabotage your own night out. Next time don't listen to them. You're too much of a nice guy, mate.

 

[DJArlington]

yea man i actually had five women (three of their friends) at the table and then i bailed because i didn't want to look like a loser because my friends didn't show up. i actually said we all had dinner and that they had to leave. it's just that i told them very early on in the night that my friend was going to bail - big ass mistake.

you are not being harsh, but you have to give me some credit for getting back out there and not being too much of an AFC.

 

[Jitterbug]

You should try going places and doing things by yourself without relying on your friends. You need to work on being comfortable in your own skin. Make new friends & expand your social circle.