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trojan17

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Let me start off with saying this.
I'm a high school junior that has very little success with females.
I need some serious help..... I'm a nice person by nature, which usually puts me in the friend zone. How did you guys become Don Juans? I mean, I've been reading around, but I can never put the advice into practice. I always end up seeming awkward and nervous. I don't know how to be confident basically, I always end up shooting myself in the foot. Always. It's like the frickin Hindenburg. Can I get some tips that'll work? I don't think it's appearance, because many girls think I'm good looking and besides I've seen plain looking guys with goddesses. Basically consider this a cry for help post, thanks in advance.
 

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I don't really post here at all but I guess you remind me a little bit of myself and how I am improving now and crap, read the DJ Bible, I like Pook and Anti-Dumps threads.

Some things that worked for me was to care more about myself than women, speak louder with good tone, act natural and just speak with people as if you knew them for a long time, I bet you have some good friends your really confident around, practice looking people in the eyes if you cannot and it gets easier.

Dress better, get some nice fitting comfortable clothes, this actually makes me feel more confident, I walk taller with my chest out a bit and head up, I used to have a bad habit of staring at the ground while walking, don't do it.

The easy part is approaching women believe me, just walk up to them and talk, don't feel nervous about it, get some balls and do it once and then it starts getting easier, seriously the hardest part for me is either the first date or after that. Learn all that stuff from the bible, eye contact, kino ect.

When you are doing something you like and are comfortable you feel the most confident, but you gotta step outside that comfort zone and start doing things you dread, you learn to like them. I just started going to the gym, was terrified, within 30mins I loved it, now I can't wait to go again and its such a boost for my confidence.

-Talk to people often
-Stop worrying, act as if you have nothing to lose
-Realize people really don't give a crap about what you do most the time
-Be nice but not too nice, learn to handle disrespect
-Look at random people daily and realize how little you care for what they do or if they mess up something

Being confident is just having belief in yourself and the things you do, I can only give you so much advice, but you gotta put it into practice, you have to get out and meet people and interact with people, strangers and such, go to places where there is lots of people.

If you only have problems with women, then meet women and talk to them, its good that you are here and willing to change but you gotta put effort into it before it becomes effortless.

Stop seeing yourself as the guy who has little success with ladies, tell yourself you are confident, tell yourself you are the man, tell it to yourself until you believe it, it will happen, just don't tell others and become a jerk, you can be a nice guy but you got to be a little wild, get a little adventurous, be ****y and funny, it works for me at least

Regarding the friendzone, make it certain through body language and tone that you want a woman sexually, don't be afraid to be a man. Don't tell a girl you like her or ask for a kiss, give her hints through kino and escalate and just go for it, its the only way you can tell if a girl really wants you and if she doesn't then walk away, don't confess feelings or compliment any woman unless they earned it, compliments to a woman's clothes I think are the best.

Its said here a lot, Judge a woman by action not words, I did some bad AFC crap with a woman after Kiss closing and one night going home confessed feelings for her, told me she did have feelings for me but doesn't know anymore, I knew it was downhill from there and I messed up so I just had the mindset that now I have nothing to lose, needless to say I got laid that night because I just went for it and kept my mouth shut
 

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Hey man, I'll try to keep it simple for you.

Go try ideas out first with girls youve never met and youll never see again. This means going out and finding randoms.

Next, try to convince yourself that you are specially empowered, that you have a special "state-creator." My best suggestion for this is a caffeine pill or 2 cups of coffee. Believe that this added energy is all you need to be a smooth, direct casanova.

And when you approach, smile, but be very serious about what you say. This is serious business, but happy business. I hope you can internalize this happiness, and combine it with DIRECTNESS. Good luck my friend. You will quickly see through cold approaches what works.
 

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What up Trojan. I'm not going to reiterate what the other guys have said. I'll just add my own couple of lines of advice and answer your question.

Don't be a boring dude. Be that fun guy. Girls should see you as that fun guy. Don't be peppy, but don't be boring. Dullness kills attraction and interest any girl might have in you, if she ever did have any.

Another thing, don't be afraid to take risks, make moves. You're a guy, you have a d*ck and ba*ls. Make advances towards girls you have physical attraction towards to brah. You like a girl? Dont tell em, but don't make it apparent. Be very subtle in what you do when you are with a chick you like.

Escalate escalate escalate! Don't be afraid bro! Push for that puss.

And to answer to answer your question(finally), approaching girls at school is hard, but can be done. Make sure your social circle is nice and be sure your approach game is decent. Don't come on too strong. You prolly know this stuff haha but I'm just reminding ya. Always try to approach chicks in other places. Malls, stores, events, parties, dances, sporting events. On the street. Don't be afraid to approach chicks that probably don't even go to your school! If anything dude, that should be a good thing because chances you see them again are low(unless you number-close or date-close them). So you'll be able to be loose and relaxed, thus allowing you to open up and be physical with the chick. After all, who cares?

Last but least. Make sure your attitude is in check. Know when to go 'F it attitude/who gives a F attitude and genuine relaxed normal state. Make sure you got your states(moods) figured out.

Good luck brah. We're both in HS so we could help each other out along the way!
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Nice advice RiceandChicken, repped, also for your name, Rice and chicken everyday for me :D
 

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Thanks

Very much for the advice. I'll try to apply this in school everyday. How can I make things fun? It seems like I've lost my touch, I rarely go out(I get invited but I'd rather chill with a small group of friends) Again thanks you very much for the advice. I'll keep you guys filled in on every interaction with females that I have starting tomorrow.
 

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BPH, are they so different? Once you have a girl, you have her. You can either talk about your future together and create a relationship, or you can mention that you like to stay single and not have one. It's just important to stick to your values either way so that the girl can't catch you being dishonest.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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How to make things fun for your self and people around ya? Simple, take risks. Don't be that boring dude like I said up top^. take risks, don't be afraid to be be funny/****y(to an extent). If possible, set up events/parties, small or big, doesn't matter. Just try to set some outside school outting up if you'd like. Hell, go ahead and be funny in class...don't over do it though. Being funny and being a class clown are two different things. Anything else?
 

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BPH it's up to you and your style. I had a bad first relationship so I've always been single and had tons of female friends, where as a majority of my friends have long term relationships. It depends on you and what you're about
 

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While HS relationships tend to end horribly (mine did) I still learned a lot from my LTR back then. I had been too concerned with being ****y and PUAish to her, and then also went too far to the other side of ignoring her and talking to other girls.

Since then I've learned that a relationship really just requires independence and, when you're with her, give her positive attention. She will, in turn, do a lot of things for you and make it easy to love her (unless shes psycho, gotta be able to spot those). And make sure you give her orgasms.
 
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