whoa there hotsauce. I said nothing about being good guy or bad guy. I actually agree you and was just pointing out my fear and anger agruement. I never said hold woman in high regards. I compare them to little children. I hold people in high regard over any animal. If you were make those statement about men my reaction would have been the same. And actually your article implies that people are comparable dogs. I understood everything wrote about in regards to male and female dymanics. I didn't like your approach.scrouds said:Don't ignore the message because the messenger bristles you the wrong way. I saw what you did, and figured it was coming. One of the unavoidbale subtexts to my post was that women == dogs. I could have taken that out, but I thought the source was important. I figured that some people would interpet that message the wrong way. What you brain did was pretty simple.
1) this article is about women
2) this article is about dogs
3) it implies that women are like dogs
4) society says that being compared to dogs is a bad thing
5) I agree with society that being compared to dogs is a bad thing
6) I hold women in high regard
7) to compare women to dogs means that i would have to hold women in a lower regard
8) since i hold women in high regard, i do not agree with the comparison between women and dogs
9) the premise that women and dogs is comparable is wrong
10) that is a main tenet of the article
11) the article must be wrong.
Everything else was colored by that. If you were like most children in america, you were raised by the traditional schooling system. Facts are drilled in to you. Knowledge is passed on to you. Critical reading was never truly taught. Instead what is called critical reading is cherrypicking the source data to prove the teacher's answer. Critical reasoning was largely ignored.
This here is a growth opportunity. A good skill to have to ensure you spend your lifetime learning is to be able to read something you do not agree with. Then consider it on the merits. And finally see what you can learn from it. I know many men come here because experience finally tells them the "good guy stchick" isn't living up to the hype. So they find this game stuff. They accept the paradigm as they used to accept "good guy". But they don't really learn, they just do what they are told to do.
The man that wants to move beyond rote game will dedicate himself to learning. And not the traditional learning we know, but through logic and systematically giving up preconceived notions that he carries with him.
The first step is recognition. Can you recognize when you are emotionally responding to something. When you do, remind yourself to read it again, and try and see it from another's perspective. Use your innate rationality to see if you can come to alternative conculsions then the ones you already hold. Only then will you truly start learning.
If the messenger has a good message but present in a bad way , then its not a good messages. Everything i wrote had zero emotion toward statment until of course karma came to insult me. Now all that bs you just wrote you miss the part where i AGREE with you. and i was pointing out my FEAR and ANGER agruement. NO where did i say after intial reply that the overall idea of your statement was wrong. I straight up said i do not like the comparsion.
You seem to have hard time accepting that someone is just going to agree with everything you wrote. agree with parts and other parts i don't. If really wanted destroy idea agruement i can go into dog and human psych ,but that be pointless. since i duh duh i agree with overall view the article. I wonder how many times i have to say that for you to get it.