How to tell if she's not interested, or just a horrible texter?

[Big Nuts]

I'm 19 and compared to the older generations, which I'm sure most of you are it means holding a conversation by playing along with jokes and asking questions. There are a good handful of girls I meet and can have paragraph conversations filled with opinion, laughter, and flirting. Even if they aren't long they still actually say more than a few words.

On the other hand, there is the exact opposite. Though they will show interest, there texts completely suck. And if i'm doing online dating it's hard to stay motivated with simple responses sent back to me.

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Wow, you have a lot to learn Padawan.

Kill me now.

 

[RememberMoi]

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Wow, you have a lot to learn Padawan.

Kill me now.

I didn't know having a good conversation that actually has substance through text with girls is bad :yawn: Don't get it twisted, I don't initiate these long conversations as soon as I meet them.

 

[Trixx]

Listen to Maximus Rex. You can't build attraction via text. This is because you can't show tone or body language that you would in a face-to-face interaction. You can only lose attraction.

 

[RememberMoi]

Listen to Maximus Rex. You can't build attraction via text. This is because you can't show tone or body language that you would in a face-to-face interaction. You can only lose attraction.

I understand that man, but it is so vague. Like I understand the fundamentals: Limit the conversation. But you have to text a bit at least, there has to be some conversation before.

Answer this question in this scenario: You meet a girl on Tinder (It is like hot or not, where if you both think each others hot you'll have a chance to chat)

1. After my opener, what would you talk about? How will you at least break the ice enough that you can hangout with this person? It's not like girls are willing to quickly hangout with a guy they met over an app, especially when a large sum of these girls use it just for the approval and qualification that they're hot.

2. How much is too much talking?

 

[LP700-4]

I understand that man, but it is so vague. Like I understand the fundamentals: Limit the conversation. But you have to text a bit at least, there has to be some conversation before.

Answer this question in this scenario: You meet a girl on Tinder (It is like hot or not, where if you both think each others hot you'll have a chance to chat)

1. After my opener, what would you talk about? How will you at least break the ice enough that you can hangout with this person? It's not like girls are willing to quickly hangout with a guy they met over an app, especially when a large sum of these girls use it just for the approval and qualification that they're hot.

2. How much is too much talking?

I don't know how this Tinder app works but it shouldn't be much different from meeting girls on other dating websites like POF and OKC. After you initiate contact with the girl, share some general information, you want to lead it towards a date.

Your opener rambled on for a bit too long but that's fine. What you want to do is set up a date as soon as possible. Typically in my first contact on a dating site or app, this is what I do: pleasantries, name, where they go to school/career, where they live, how they like the area where they live and how they like it, I then close out with asking her to get coffee sometime. If she says yes, I ask for her number.

(NOTE: Some girls will say yes to the coffee but when you ask for their number, they either say they don't give it to strangers or they want to know much more about you first or they don't even reply at all. I usually find that these are the flakes. What I do here is try to set up the date on the website or app. If she says no to giving her number I say "Okay. So what day works for you?" She knows I'm not just trying to chat all day and I'm serious about meeting face to face. Some will agree to a date on the website or app. Some just won't. For those that do agree, I then ask for their number again so we can keep in contact better than the site/app. At this point, they 100% give it to me.)

One thing I do when she gives me her number is not to respond to her message after getting it. I don't text or call her right away either. I typically wait two or three days or even a week depending on my attraction towards her.

When I do text her, it goes something like this:

Me: Hey, [girl's name], its's [your name]

Girl: Oh hi! How are you?

Me: I'm doing good. Sorry, I've been really busy the last couple of days. (At this point, I give either a legitimate or made up excuse).

Girl: I totally understand. Blah...blah...blah.

Me: We should get coffee sometime this week if you're open to it.

Girl: I would love that.

Me: Cool. We can meet at so-so and so place in so-so and so city at so-so and so time.

It is important you set concrete details. Don't even ask her what time or day works for her. Plan it in your head and invite her. If the time is perfect, she'll accept. If not, she'll say she has something else on that day. Ask her what day and time works for her. Then you guys plan and come to an agreement. When she accepts. DROP THE PHONE. Drop it. Put it down. Don't text again. Go do something else. Bite your nails. Paint your gerbil. Play with your pet spider. Anything. Just don't text her. Leave any further talk for when you meet face to face.

This is optional but typically, I like to call a day before the coffee date to ask her if we're still meeting up and confirm. They're usually surprised that I called instead of texting and it warms her up to your my voice knowing I'm real and she can make a connection to those pixels on her screen.

 

[LP700-4]

I understand that man, but it is so vague. Like I understand the fundamentals: Limit the conversation. But you have to text a bit at least, there has to be some conversation before.

Answer this question in this scenario: You meet a girl on Tinder (It is like hot or not, where if you both think each others hot you'll have a chance to chat)

1. After my opener, what would you talk about? How will you at least break the ice enough that you can hangout with this person? It's not like girls are willing to quickly hangout with a guy they met over an app, especially when a large sum of these girls use it just for the approval and qualification that they're hot.

2. How much is too much talking?

I don't know how this Tinder app works but it shouldn't be much different from meeting girls on other dating websites like POF and OKC. After you initiate contact with the girl, share some general information, you want to lead it towards a date.

Your opener rambled on for a bit too long but that's fine. What you want to do is set up a date as soon as possible. Typically in my first contact on a dating site or app, this is what I do: pleasantries, name, where they go to school/career, where they live, how they like the area where they live and how they like it, I then close out with asking her to get coffee sometime. If she says yes, I ask for her number.

(NOTE: Some girls will say yes to the coffee but when you ask for their number, they either say they don't give it to strangers or they want to know much more about you first or they don't even reply at all. I usually find that these are the flakes. What I do here is try to set up the date on the website or app. If she says no to giving her number I say "Okay. So what day works for you?" She knows I'm not just trying to chat all day and I'm serious about meeting face to face. Some will agree to a date on the website or app. Some just won't. For those that do agree, I then ask for their number again so we can keep in contact better than the site/app. At this point, they 100% give it to me.)

One thing I do when she gives me her number is not to respond to her message after getting it. I don't text or call her right away either. I typically wait two or three days or even a week depending on my attraction towards her.

When I do text her, it goes something like this:

Me: Hey, [girl's name], its's [your name]

Girl: Oh hi! How are you?

Me: I'm doing good. Sorry, I've been really busy the last couple of days. (At this point, I give either a legitimate or made up excuse).

Girl: I totally understand. Blah...blah...blah.

Me: We should get coffee sometime this week if you're open to it.

Girl: I would love that.

Me: Cool. We can meet at so-so and so place in so-so and so city at so-so and so time.

It is important you set concrete details. Don't even ask her what time or day works for her. Plan it in your head and invite her. If the time is perfect, she'll accept. If not, she'll say she has something else on that day. Ask her what day and time works for her. Then you guys plan and come to an agreement. When she accepts. DROP THE PHONE. Drop it. Put it down. Don't text again. Go do something else. Bite your nails. Paint your gerbil. Play with your pet spider. Anything. Just don't text her. Leave any further talk for when you meet face to face.

This is optional but typically, I like to call a day before the coffee date to ask her if we're still meeting up and confirm. They're usually surprised that I called instead of texting and it warms her up to your my voice knowing I'm real and she can make a connection to those pixels on her screen.

 

[Mr Wright]

Why is it foolish? If a chick agrees to this isn't it fair to say her interest level is very high?

Yeah, her interest level is really high and that's a good thing but you're also limiting yourself to chicks with really high interest. I'd ask you, how often do you get chicks with really high interest who would take your number and call you? Forget PrettyBoyAJ for a minute, his success will be down to hard work and good game, we could all sit at home and jack off other some other guys glory stories but is it really going to help you. How many quality high interest girls does the average guy get coming into his life every week?

You must of never read any of PrettyBoyAJ's field reports or his interview.

I've read a bit and he clearly has really good game and proves that it's not the norm. If you told most guys on here to not bother taking girls numbers and to just give them theirs, they'd get nothing and get more bitter towards women. Believe me, if my game was good enough to do that I would but it's not yet but I think I'll get there pretty soon...

 

[Maximus Rex]

Sometimes Y'all Don't Make a Lick of Sense

Yeah, her interest level is really high and that's a good thing but you're also limiting yourself to chicks with really high interest.

Why would I want to deal with a chick who didn't have high interest in me?

 

[Maximus Rex]

But They Don't Hear Me Though......

Listen to Maximus Rex. You can't build attraction via text. This is because you can't show tone or body language that you would in a face-to-face interaction. You can only lose attraction.

So why do these cats swear up and down that you can?

But you have to text a bit at least, there has to be some conversation before.

Says who? Where are y'all getting all of these f*cked up rules as it pertains to texting from? Rex has no idea what the f*ck "Tinder," is. I'm assuming it's a dating sight. In that case, you holler like you would on the street and eventually, you tell the chick that you're not into this "texting thing, and could she give you the number, or at least be willing to to Skype with you. If she's not willing to either of those things, it's Hov said in that song, "On To the Next One."

Y'all niggas really need to stop letting these hoes dictate how, when, and what form of communication that you're going to use when you're trying to holla at them. These women what to align themselves with men of high value who display leadership skills. So be a man of high value who displays leadership skills.

 

[Mr Wright]

Why you should bother with a chick who isnt on her knees after 10 minutes.

Why would I want to deal with a chick who didn't have high interest in me?

When I say high interest, I'm talking about initial high interest which is usually based on superficial features like your looks or if you have some status in a venue. When you first meet a girl after 5 minutes shes wont have anything much more to say about you than "he was cute/bold/intriguing/had a dope car, I want to bang him". If you met her doing cold approach you're still a stranger so why the hell should she have high interest?

In theory, we dont want to deal with anything other high interest girls but in reality interest levels vary over time so if you dont know how to manage a girl with medium interest, you will keep blowing off girls who can be recovered. Yeah, sack off the low interest girls but you need to learn how to get medium interest girls to high interest. Also medium interest girls will still bang you if they are aroused enough, so again, you're just c0ckblocking yourself with your own ego.

If you're only going after initial high interest girls, how many new girls have you slept with in the last 12 months? Unless you're a male model, it wont be many. Most girls will be on the fence and it's your game that tilts it over the edge. If you had high interest girls roaming about you could pull them from the bookshop back to yours there and then...unless you have great game, that doesnt happen.

 

[bukowski_merit]

I understand what you're saying and appreciate the answer, but it leaves me a bit lost. With this knowledge... Now how would you apply it? Like could you formulate some text examples, or give a brief run down as to how you would like a conversation to go with a girl you met over Tinder?

Well, what's your goal?

Your goal should not be idle chatter no matter what!!!

If it's fast sex - you'll have to turn it up fast and you have to really make her comfortable with you. This is what I do, and I don't even go on dates with women. I just meet up at one of our houses (this doesn't always lead to sex, but most of the time it does). This takes an entirely different kind of text game than the 1st date meet/2nd date bang guys... Primarily because the texting (in my case) takes the place of the 1st date. Normally within the first 2-3 messages, I'm dropping sexual innuendos in my texts, to test to see if she......... bites

If it's just to have a simple date - doing what some are suggesting works fine. You have to work towards gauging her interest either way. I try to figure out her sexual interest, so sexual talk works for me. If you're trying to figure out if she likes you enough to go on a date with you; push the date as soon as it seems reasonable. If she doesn't accept the date offer - you'll have a clear idea that she's not that interested.


I look at text game like this (note: this applies to people you meet online/apps; not out at bars):
The amount of texting you have to do is based on what kind of commitment you want from her. The more you're asking her to do - the more comfortable you're going to have to make her before meeting her.

I learned this idea from copywriting books. Which say that the lesser known your product is to the person - the less commitment they have to buying it. The more selling you have to do.


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I've never personally used tinder. But I've heard it's a lot harder to meet up with women off there if you're not super good looking (because it's a pic based dating app). I'd suggest trying POF of OKcupid unless you are super good looking. (note: this is just off what I've heard. Maybe someday I'll try tinder myself.)

 

[Maximus Rex]

Your Logic is Flawed Like a Mutaf*cka

When you first meet a girl after 5 minutes shes wont have anything much more to say about you than "he was cute/bold/intriguing/had a dope car, I want to bang him". If you met her doing cold approach you're still a stranger so why the hell should she have high interest?

Because your game is tight. You know, there's this Canadian guy named Mystery and charges a sh*t load of money to teach dudes how to do this.

so if you dont know how to manage a girl with medium interest, you will keep blowing off girls who can be recovered. Yeah, sack off the low interest girls but you need to learn how to get medium interest girls to high interest. Also medium interest girls will still bang you if they are aroused enough, so again, you're just c0ckblocking yourself with your own ego.

That's investing entirely too much time in a "maybe." You're acting as if I'm the only dude that's hollerin' at this medium interest chick. What in the f*ck happens to ya boy, when some dude she does have high interest in comes along? The Honorable Judge nismo would say something about "princess and castles."

 

[Mr Wright]

"Your Logic is Flawed Like a Mutaf*cka" - Attraction isnt logical. I'm speaking purely from what I've experienced, my experience cant be wrong. Logic.

Because your game is tight. You know, there's this Canadian guy named Mystery and charges a sh*t load of money to teach dudes how to do this.

Dont confuse high interest with high levels of arousal. You can bang a girl very quickly before she even knows your name or anything but that doesnt mean she's "really into you", she may never want to see you again but I'd bet you'd still deal with her.

I'll say it again just because she wants to fvck you that doesnt mean high interest. One day I was with a mate at a festival and I got talking to a girl, made out within 30 seconds and was walking back to my tent within 2 minutes. I wouldnt have said that girl had high interest though, just horny and up for a good time. Of course I gave her the best 45 seconds of her life :cheer:

That's investing entirely too much time in a "maybe." You're acting as if I'm the only dude that's hollerin' at this medium interest chick. What in the f*ck happens to ya boy, when some dude she does have high interest in comes along? The Honorable Judge nismo would say something about "princess and castles."

It's an investment that will get you laid. Banging yes girls is easy (see my report from last night) you barely have to invest any time because they're willing to put in more work. Game is getting those maybe girls to yes girls and banging them.

So yeah you may not be the only dude trying to get in her pants but if you actually went out and put the effort into getting better at getting these maybe girls, after a while you'll start moving to the top of her list. To get good at this you do have to make sacrifices to your ego, you will have bad days where things are sh!tty, put the ego to one side and just get the crap beaten out of you until you get better. Before you get really good if you refuse to deal with maybe girls, you arent getting laid, simple as that.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Nigga, Are You Serious?

Dont confuse high interest with high levels of arousal. You can bang a girl very quickly before she even knows your name or anything but that doesnt mean she's "really into you", she may never want to see you again but I'd bet you'd still deal with her.

Who cares, if she just wants to f*ck, Rex still gets the "w."

So yeah you may not be the only dude trying to get in her pants but if you actually went out and put the effort into getting better at getting these maybe girls,

That has got to be the most asinine and God awful advice, that I've ever read on this site. I really want to give you one those red flags, but I don't if it will have a negative effect on your status as a member of this board. Chase after hoes who don't want you.

You know what happen when I went after "maybe," b*tches," I had this b*tch's sister get on the phone talm 'bout, "Stop calling here, SHE DON'T WANT YOU!" Then there was the time I pursued some lukewarm b*tch, set up a date, Rex shows up for the date, only for her to tell him, that she couldn't go because her metabolism was slow, she was on a diet, and it was after 6, and she couldn't eat. Then there was time I called this chick, asked for her, she call back and when I did, she answered and said that ole Rex had the wrong number, and then there's my favorite instance of chancing after a hoe who didn't want me, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=73178

Rex's time is VERY IMPORTANT TO HIM, even moreso than money. Money can be replaced where as time can't. What you're suggesting is that I not give a f*ck about my time and chase after hoes who don't want me. What kind of weak ass sh*t is that? I'm not going to devote time into trying to convince some chick that has half-assed interest in ole Rex, that going out with him is a movement that she needs to f*ck with. I literally have better thing to do, like read, smoke a cigar, kick it with friends, and most importantly holla at chicks who are giving ole Rex major cooperation. Then again, you're the same cat who has a gang of Facebook friends solely because you don't want other muthafucas thinking you're "weird."

 

[LandingWood]

RememberMoi, have you fvcked any of those girls you're texting paragraphs to?

 

[Mr Wright]

Who cares, if she just wants to f*ck, Rex still gets the "w."

That's exactly the point I'm making because here you said:

Why would I want to deal with a chick who didn't have high interest in me?

The answer is because she still may fvck you if you get her aroused enough. You wont fvck a no girl but you could fvck a maybe girl. Christ I've banged girls who had no attraction towards me but I've gotten them aroused enough to fvck. If I had just taken the face value, her not being attracted to me and me not escalating, I wouldnt have fvcked her.

That has got to be the most asinine and God awful advice, that I've ever read on this site. I really want to give you one those red flags, but I don't if it will have a negative effect on your status as a member of this board. Chase after hoes who don't want you.

You know what happen when I went after "maybe," b*tches," I had this b*tch's sister get on the phone talm 'bout, "Stop calling here, SHE DON'T WANT YOU!" Then there was the time I pursued some lukewarm b*tch, set up a date, Rex shows up for the date, only for her to tell him, that she couldn't go because her metabolism was slow, she was on a diet, and it was after 6, and she couldn't eat. Then there was time I called this chick, asked for her, she call back and when I did, she answered and said that ole Rex had the wrong number, and then there's my favorite instance of chancing after a hoe who didn't want me, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=73178

Rex's time is VERY IMPORTANT TO HIM, even moreso than money. Money can be replaced where as time can't. What you're suggesting is that I not give a f*ck about my time and chase after hoes who don't want me. What kind of weak ass sh*t is that? I'm not going to devote time into trying to convince some chick that has half-assed interest in ole Rex, that going out with him is a movement that she needs to f*ck with. I literally have better thing to do, like read, smoke a cigar, kick it with friends, and most importantly holla at chicks who are giving ole Rex major cooperation. Then again, you're the same cat who has a gang of Facebook friends solely because you don't want other muthafucas thinking you're "weird."

I think you misunderstand what I mean by a maybe girl. A girl who doesnt want you, is a no girl. Forget those girls. I'm getting the feeling you were chasing after no girls thinking that there was interest. A maybe girl is a chick who likes you but may have a particular obstacle that you need to get over, like an ex-boyfriend or her friends are out or she doesnt really dig your haircut or she just has medium interest because you didnt spark anything too much the first time round. Who gives a sh!t what the reason is but you have to get the girl to show her cards, if she doesnt want to let you move the interaction on, you know where you stand but if shes responding even neutrally to some slightly sexual touching, it's enough to move things forward. Not every girl is going to be giving the green light, it takes awareness to notice when a girl is not interested and playing games vs allowing you to move things forward. It's subtle but there are tell tell signs.


Read my thread: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=210578

The point I am making, let me make it clear before you jump the gun again and act like I said you should be chasing girls who arent into you. I never said that at any point, I'm all about testing these girls to find out if they are and if they arent showing anything back, then forget her. It takes 5 seconds to work out if she wants to advance things. When I go out clubbing, I start filtering from the first 10 seconds in order to not waste time.


When you got that phone call from that girl's sister, she was not a maybe, she was a no acting like a maybe. Read the thread I put up and I explain how that can happen and how to identify when a girl is acting like that because it used to bug the hell out of me when a girl would be returning my texts but not meeting up.

 

[CrimsonPanther]

RememberMoi, have you fvcked any of those girls you're texting paragraphs to?

it is not unimaginable to do so. while i suck at the texting game (little experience), i tried my luck on facebook with around 10 girls over time. i boned 3 of them, and one is in process but she is the shiest girl i have ever know, also she cares about nothing but she seems to like me and has exquisite legs so i'm game). with all 3 successes it went like this. SHORT first talk, random funny opener, usually a weird observation wrapped in a compliment. after that we talked about her, her family, finding out how she thinks or if she is shy, outgoing, sloot or not. next was i asked if i can call her right then. she gave number i called, we talked a little, and arranged a date. at this point if they agreed without delays/postpone, i hooked up with them on that 1st date.

OFF TOPIC READ ONLY IF YOU WANT (chat related lay reports)
one was 18 (HB6), and normal girl with no red flags, the avg joe type. i invited her into my company office, i was kinda escalating quickly, but not aggressively. i boned her in the first 30 minutes. we met twice after that, we thought she got pregnant, and when we found out she is not, we split up. she is married now because she got pregnant with the next guy after me.

the other one was also 18(HB7), a very physical girl with huge green eyes, she was used to direct guys. i played the shy card with her, we went to the zoo, i didn't even look at her boobies, we talked, and at the end of the date i kissed her on the chin and asked for another date. she agreed for me to go to her place and watch a movie. while we watched the movie, we talked, and she said she sees i like her and i also respect her, that she is amazed i didn't look at her titties(inspired move) and she likes me back. that was the moment when i fingered her under the blanket. i even got her to finger her **** at the same time (she said no boy will ever see her masturbate, so i simply put her hand in there and started her lol). after that we fkced, turned out she was kinda grossed out by cvm, sprayed it on her anyway, she didn't wanna talk to me afterwards for 1 hr, then we fcked again. after 1 month she started to get needy and clingy kinda like overly attached girlfriend, so we split, and i went NC.

the 3rd one was 16(HB7) (we have legal age at 16 here mind you), little overweight, but only slightly, with an adorable face, mostly because she always smiled. she was the only one who initiated chat after i tagged her on facebook. it went pretty fast, we talked, she hinted she already had two boyfriends, so i hinted i am not the judgmental type, so we hooked up after 7-8 texting sessions. we went for a drink. she straight up told me her pvssy was tingling, so we went to my company's office and bagged her good. i was pretty aggressive, i literally tore her bra down, and she loved it. she is one of my plates now, we always have crazy fun even by phone, she is a great conversationist.

these were my facebook lays resulting from longish chat sessions. so it is possible. with 2 of the others i have become friends, and boned some of their girl friends.

all in all i have found the online (facebook) gaming pretty fruitful if you can weed out the lame prospects.

 

[TitanSS]

Maybe girls are just no girls that are trying to be polite and you're either reading them wrong or you're mind is trying to convince you that is there some sort of interest because they didn't outright tell you "No".

Women communicate covertly. As in, if she verbally tells you to stop talking to her... she's been trying to tell you for two weeks and you just didn't take the hint.

If a girl is interested in you and you make it known that you are a man who has other options available to you, through confidence in your personality, the girl will find a way to **** you if she wants to **** you. Girls want to compete with other girls for their man.

You have to put in the effort... sure.. but there should be no maybe about it. A "maybe" girl may **** you, but she will never be anything long term. She'll go cold on you as soon as she gets attention elsewhere.

Pursuing maybe girls puts you in the friend zone or as an orbiter.

 

[bukowski_merit]

I've turned many girls who were riding the fence about me into girls who were riding my d!ck!

An idiot with no understanding of women will end up in the friend zone or as an orbitor...

To think it's so basic as "she either does or doesn't want to fvck you and there's no way to turn it around" is saying all that matters is what she thinks of you the minute she meets you; that game means nothing.

That idea shows inexperience and lack of confidence in your own abilities.



I can tell you right now that I know at all times if a woman is a no, maybe, or yes.... And I agree that a "no" is a waste of time. But the maybe are what all the books have been written about. It's where a seducer seduces. The yes girls are easy; there's no seduction there; just "don't fvck this up". I've had girls (I met out) want to fvck me from the minute we lay eyes on each other... Cake.

But those are far more rare.

Once a girl maybe girl let's you in her head and you know what you're doing in there.... It's pure art... It's poetry in motion...



Maximus, you should know this. I've read your dealings with your ex. She was never into you until you got some game.


If i only fvcked women who threw it at me in an obvious chasing manner - i'd:
#1 practically only have fvcked the slvttiest ones (some of them i never even spoke to and they were on me)....
#2 have 80% less lays than I have....


If you think game means nothing.... Log off this site and go back to PUA-Hate..

 

[CrimsonPanther]

I've turned many girls who were riding the fence about me into girls who were riding my d!ck!

An idiot with no understanding of women will end up in the friend zone or as an orbitor...

To think it's so basic as "she either does or doesn't want to fvck you and there's no way to turn it around" is saying all that matters is what she thinks of you the minute she meets you; that game means nothing.

That idea shows inexperience and lack of confidence in your own abilities.



I can tell you right now that I know at all times if a woman is a no, maybe, or yes.... And I agree that a "no" is a waste of time. But the maybe are what all the books have been written about. It's where a seducer seduces. The yes girls are easy; there's no seduction there; just "don't fvck this up". I've had girls (I met out) want to fvck me from the minute we lay eyes on each other... Cake.

But those are far more rare.

Once a girl maybe girl let's you in her head and you know what you're doing in there.... It's pure art... It's poetry in motion...



Maximus, you should know this. I've read your dealings with your ex. She was never into you until you got some game.


If i only fvcked women who threw it at me in an obvious chasing manner - i'd:
#1 practically only have fvcked the slvttiest ones (some of them i never even spoke to and they were on me)....
#2 have 80% less lays than I have....


If you think game means nothing.... Log off this site and go back to PUA-Hate..

QFT ^^
you CAN change girls mind. you can even turn a girl who is not interested at all into your beech. it just takes patience and cunning. and spinning plates, so you don't feel like your life depended in this.:cheer:
girls are emotional and auditive beings. play on these.