How to Master Cold Approaching

[rushing dude 123]

lol i was looking forward to reading this, so i cud point out the obvious answer, but looks like u already did.

 

[positivity_injection]

contrary to what you believe it's OK to turn down pvssy if you have more important things to take care of.

HELLO, he never gets pvssy

yes, if a guy is sexing up a girl 6 times a week, and another girl wants him, its SORTA ok to turn her down

but this guy just said he hasnt had sex and DOESNT PLAN TO for 2 years

that's virgin chump talk

 

[rushing dude 123]

well guys i see ur all arguing about this, butttt all this guy is basically saying to get good at approaching is to wait for it....approach. Has for the sex part that has other factors to get there other than approach usually, but how do u expect to get laid if u don't approach at all?, so by approaching more would increase ur lays seeing thats how it begins. If he chose not to do anything other than approach thats up to him, its ur job to take this where u want it. Just because he didn't go all the way after the approach, dosn't mean u can't.

so guys u can sit there and do nothing and i am sure the girls will just b opening there legs for u or u cud actually go out there and APPROACH and actually take a shot at it.

 

[Jitterbug]

No time for sex in the next 2 years eh? Sex ain't a full time job, mate. This RSD thing is turning a lot of guys into social robots. It's cool to practice this, so you will overcome approach anxiety and build good social skills, but doing that much work and not getting any result is a huge waste of time and effort. It seems that you're getting addicted to the highs of the approach and eager to practice what you've learned from RSD, but don't really have any particular goal in mind.

For the record, I used to do lots of cold approaches to overcome my approach anxiety and also because I was fresh out of uni & new to this city. Through that, I expanded my social circle rapidly. The getting laid part came with it.

If you want to get laid through a cold daytime approach, your best targets are tourists or backpackers. Otherwise, just get the email or number and take it from there.

 

[Reyaj]

ok sorry for the stupid question but what the hells does RSD stand for?

 

[wolf116]

Real Social Dynamics

 

[Snow Plowman]

you just sealed the nail to your own coffin KEYBOARD JOCKEY

Nice one...

My life consist of School...Sarge...Sleep
School: 3 days a week for 9 hours, off days is rehearsal, read books, shoot films, go to required play, see presentations. (I was told this is light mode so far)

Sarge: I have one of 3 options
1. Gain more experience, experiment and have fun
2. Go on day2s and follow up with #s
3. Go for the Pull

Sleep: As of right now I don't even live in my house, all I do is go home sleep, wake up and leave.

I've had lays from way back when I first started, my journey is more than just getting laid. This is a lifestyle and a INSANE personality that I'm building and moving towards.

The 2 Years thing is more of a hyperbole, basically going for the pull is wasting valuable time when I could be learning a sh!tload of stuff that could move me closer to my goal.

My Logistics is Piss poor right now and I'm busy as sh!t, so when I sarge I can only choose one of the 3 options...
- If I go out to experiment and gain more experience...I forget to call up my #s or follow up with day2s
- If I call my #s and follow up on day2s...I end up losing a day of sarging due to the day2
- If I try for the pull...I can't follow up on day2s nor can I sarge

If he were claiming to give advice on day 2's, escelation, isolation, phone game etc etc. I would concur with your sentiments (although probably not as harshly), but as far as just approaching goes, its decent advice.

I wouldn't post advice if I didn't have experience in it. Honestly the only two things I'll never post about is Texting and Online Game, because I have very little experience in those areas.

Reason I focus more on going out and approaching is because I can practice everything and it all starts from approaching...
- Day2s...I can just instadate right then and there
- Escalation...I don't even have to mention that because that's a given KINO right off the opener
- Phone Game...If the first interaction is solid then the phone is easy as sh!t

all i know is that girls don't like to be the objects of approach practice

they like to be approached when there is actual honest interest in getting to know them and moving things along, and that includes having sex later on, otherwise there is something wrong with the approach or with the guy approaching

For me, it's not about the chick...If I really want a chick then I will go for it, but as of right now this is all about gaining experience approaching, building what I call my "Monumental Vibe" which gives the woman a "Monumental Experience".

Another example of the guys on this site having extremely low sex drives.
"I don't have time for sex"??? That's woman talk! Fix your T levels.

I'm a full time engineering student, have two jobs, surf and gym. But ALWAYS find time for sex. How busy can you be?

Give up TV, xbox and stop posting on sosuave. There, you now have time for sex.

I don't even understand why you guys are even on this site.

haha...This is the first day I've been in my house, actually awake...

I see the angle your coming from, but I eat, sleep, and sh!t school...so my best choice is to take advantage of my circumstances. My logistics is piss poor so doing a pull is more complicated and time consuming. That time could be used for more epiphanies.

I know how to direct my T levels in so many other ways, that's not a problem at all.

the guy sarges with rsd and his approach journal has some of the best calibration on this board. contrary to what you believe it's OK to turn down pvssy if you have more important things to take care of. that's called coming from abundance

all I've seen from you is long ass post called why AFC's exist, and it's just a dumb rant about social conditioning you tried to reframe as something groundbreaking. it wasn't

I'm not familiar with the newer guys who post on here, since I usually only have time to come on this site while on the bus going to home or school. I never actually realized that I was coming from a position of abundance, because I don't even think about abundance anymore.

As of right now I would only try to pull the 8s and 9s who I really like...before I fuked myself up because I ended up neglecting all other chicks which sort of fuked up my reality for a bit.

Now I interact with everyone and I tend to only really go for the 8s and 9s seriously. I open everyone but it's those real cool 8s and 9s that I enjoy.

Logically yes I could find some time to have sex but in all honesty I get pissed when I miss a day of sarging, because I missed so much fun. No one on this site knows how much I love social dynamics now and interacting with people.

yes but they dont wanna be approached by a guy who is gonna waste their time

I'm not wasting no one's time, I'm learning and I'm making a chicks day even better than it was. At the rate I go now, I probably interact with up to 50+ women a day...that's if you add up all the one liners I do as I walk down the street, no one is safe.

You try going down a NYC busy street and creating your own party and offering value to everyone that goes by. That took some effort of me going out and learning.

The woman is getting a sh!tload out of the interaction, some chicks even get to feel my physical touch...WOW...I don't want every hot chick in the world because some don't meet my standards or values as a person.

HELLO, he never gets pvssy

yes, if a guy is sexing up a girl 6 times a week, and another girl wants him, its SORTA ok to turn her down

but this guy just said he hasnt had sex and DOESNT PLAN TO for 2 years

that's virgin chump talk

Just to give you a bit of background about myself, when I first started getting in this in Jan 07...a good four months in I was getting laid pretty consistently...if I knew the stuff I know now...lets just say I could've probably got laid by 4-5 different girls a week.

My game was good back then, but I didn't have that INSANE PERSONALITY, that Core Identity of being an actual man. I just had to skill to meet women and fuk them. I had a HUGE Identity crisis because back then I was state dependent on friends...meaning if I was alone then I couldn't pull sh!t back then, but have me with my friends and I'd pull.

Your actual skill doesn't depend on the amount of lays you have, because everyone has different goals...

My wings all of them got laid in the past 2 months, except me and one other guy. If you were looking at stats like a NERD, you'd say the guys who got laid have better game.

One wing in particular he got laid, but he still has problems actually getting the set to stick, he still has problems with getting blown out for not escalating properly, he can get 19 #s in 2 days and still get flaked on majority of them.

But he doesn't actually have the consistency of going through the motions and actually have a Identity that is his own. You can basically say all this is a hobby and self improvement of mine. I want to play on the advanced level.

My joy comes from seeing an 8set of club chicks walking down the street and having to open them and get there RAS focused in me one by one...now that is fun.

No time for sex in the next 2 years eh? Sex ain't a full time job, mate. This RSD thing is turning a lot of guys into social robots. It's cool to practice this, so you will overcome approach anxiety and build good social skills, but doing that much work and not getting any result is a huge waste of time and effort. It seems that you're getting addicted to the highs of the approach and eager to practice what you've learned from RSD, but don't really have any particular goal in mind.

If you want to get laid through a cold daytime approach, your best targets are tourists or backpackers. Otherwise, just get the email or number and take it from there.

RSD is NOWHERE near social robot, many people don't even understand what RSD is about. It's all about finding yourself and as I like to say Decoding yourself so you can understand yourself.

I Never had AA...(That is ever since I transitioned to building a CORE which was back in Apr/May 07)

My Social Skills was already good enough back when I was learning this in Jan 07 the button pushing way.

Waste of time...NO WAY I'd never take back any of my experiences or anything I've learned. I see so much subtle sh!t now that it's scary sometimes.

I have a crystal clear goal...why else would I be doing this so hardcore and not even worry about getting laid...

Basically I have a lifestyle that I'm moving towards, which I was sort of living on a very basic scale, before school got even more intense. Where women come in is that I want to be able to meet women anywhere at anytime.

Everything I do in my life complements the overall goal and picture that I have set. I'm young, 2 years of just learning and testing sh!t is nothing. Now if there is a chick I REALLY REALLY like then I'm going to sacrifice a day or two for a pull. Like currently this 9 Model/Actress who is currently away in france...she was one of the few chicks so far that I made it my mission to get with. I purposely gave up one of my only sarging days to go to a party just so I could # close this chick.

In daytime, I go for instadates and pulls sameday...or meet up later in the night. As you mentioned about backpackers and tourists, they are by far the easiest to lay...BY FAR. So many stories of chicks wanting to have sex in there hotel just before they leave America.

 

[Keyboard Theorist]

all i know is that girls don't like to be the objects of approach practice

they like to be approached when there is actual honest interest in getting to know them and moving things along, and that includes having sex later on, otherwise there is something wrong with the approach or with the guy approaching

I'm going to have to agree with you and your previous post. It's all well being a motivational guru and getting people pumped up, but without results it's pretty pointless. I can approach well and game well etc. but can never get end results. This leads me to believe there's something I'm doing wrong, or it's stuff out of my hands that stops them from meeting me etc. It's still not clear whether cold approaches are just pointless because level of success is so rare, or if they're a genuinely viable option. The lay reports suggest you need to have a social group and mix with a group of girls and take it from there, the 1-1 CA success rate seems drastically low.

KT

 

[funkybear]

approaching

i think i a great way ov overcoming your fear ov approaching and impoving your game i cold approached got kb but did not move to next approach i still have this fear even though i approahed i need to do the same

 

[escaleraroyal]

funny thread.

 

[Snow Plowman]

I'm going to have to agree with you and your previous post. It's all well being a motivational guru and getting people pumped up, but without results it's pretty pointless. I can approach well and game well etc. but can never get end results. This leads me to believe there's something I'm doing wrong, or it's stuff out of my hands that stops them from meeting me etc. It's still not clear whether cold approaches are just pointless because level of success is so rare, or if they're a genuinely viable option. The lay reports suggest you need to have a social group and mix with a group of girls and take it from there, the 1-1 CA success rate seems drastically low.

KT

haha...ok maybe I wasn't clear, but I've gotten the results and I can get the results, it's just using my given circumstances to my advantage. I wouldn't post advice if I wasn't getting any results...

...as far as being dancing monkey (Only can get good responses but can't close) that's a different problem. You need to step up and escalate. As I always say start from right off the opener kinoing. I think escalating is the most important thing when interacting with a chick.

A challenge you should do which I done a few months back, is to go out and open 5-10 sets and just escalate until you get blown out...you will be surprised at what you can get away with and what you can do.

I've madeout with chicks on the street in the daytime, which really shattered my reality...I never understood why you had to tone down kino in daygame when all the chicks seems to be cool with the kino.

Honestly the only problem I see in my Cold Approaches is finding time...I've had 4 chicks stop speaking to me because I flaked on them twice...(They set up the meet ups)

Something that I hope many people move towards, which is the reason I'm not really focusing too much on the sex, is to actually become an attractive man that chick's want to FUK...I'm talking about chicks who demand you take there #, and wanting to meet up instantly...that is how it's been for me lately. There was a big shift in my game, in the past 2 days...

As I always say, you try sh!t out and see what works, I honestly could careless what anyone thinks, but to have newbies overlook such advice, would be terrible because I've helped so many people in actual real life and online...

...as I always say I'm willing to meet up with anyone in the daytime and we can sarge it up, I'm out there 7 days a week, I try to find a way, even if it's on my class breaks...Any free time I have I try to put it towards sarging, because I can't do sarge marathon's anymore...

 

[Snow Plowman]

I don't care about make outs, long conversations, numbers, facebooks or instant dates (had them all). I care about Day 2's, sex and potential relationships. Attractive women do not seem to be interested in 1-1 dates with me even after a great, lengthy interaction where I portray my best self. I don't have a social circle because university killed my life so it's pretty hard going. It's not like I can invite her with my crew of cool friends or anything. Numbers and even make outs mean nothing, even wutangfinancial gets those.

KT

Well you my friend need to keep approaching...

In all honesty if you can get solid interactions then your half way there. The other half is actually learning how to close. Many guys in this community make closing seem like an almost impossible task. I guess because I was coming in with already decent escalation that I found it easy, but really it is that easy.

Most of what I talk about is real confusing to most because they don't get it...

All I can really say is once you find that "Authentic" Personality, you will see INSANE things. I'm talking about having sex literally thrown at you, 95% of the world loving you and wanting to be around you. Being an actual MAN, as opposed to a chode or a guy who knows how to competently meet women.

If you become that man who women are drawn towards, then most of your phone game is handled, and your escalation is pretty straightforward. This past week, which actually sparked me to post this thread, I had the biggest epiphany ever...

It's insane when a chick who had a long marriage with her husband all the way on the west coast could come to NYC and want to get fuked by a 19 year old who just happen to find his true self. This decision was made in less than a second...

The epiphanies I had, can go on for days. Dudes go out thinking a good or bad night depends on whether or not they get #s and lays...haha...they are so wrong. If you actually believe that is success you need to look deeper.

Imagine everywhere you go people gravitate towards you because your are the one who brings the place to life. Doesn't matter if it's the street, the train, anywhere. It's when you really get to that point, the hot chicks realize you can just meet someone else and so they actually don't want to blow you off.

I can't articulate those stuff yet though, as I'm still making everything soak in, all I can say right now is just go out and approach.

 

[lookyoung]

Wow I always knew that the coldapproach wasn't that successful on this website despite many of the claims. But I never though it was this bad.

Snowplowman has a 0% success rate.
PHATRABBIT- got 2 dates and one lay in 122 approaches.'
Jayer it seems like isn't closing any deals either.

The way it seems is if you have a 5% fvck close rate on coldapproaches than your a fvcking DJ. I am going to hit the club tomorrow and will do coldapproaches there and will share my stats.

 

[Snow Plowman]

Wow I always knew that the coldapproach wasn't that successful on this website despite many of the claims. But I never though it was this bad.

Snowplowman has a 0% success rate.
PHATRABBIT- got 2 dates and one lay in 122 approaches.'
Jayer it seems like isn't closing any deals either.

The way it seems is if you have a 5% fvck close rate on coldapproaches than your a fvcking DJ. I am going to hit the club tomorrow and will do coldapproaches there and will share my stats.

hahaha...you know what's funny about your post...while your inaccurate about me getting laid, because majority of the sex I had was from Cold Approaching...BUT...

If you want to get all nerded my lay rate would be 1%, 2%...Lets just breakdown my life for the nerds, KBJS, and guys who still don't leave there house...

For a nerd he wants validation from getting sex from a hot chick and because he looks at the surface of things, he considers a good night vs a bad night depending on the good reactions, the #s, and the lays he has got. He checks his ratio of lays to approaches, day2s to approaches, etc. He only wants to be social and talk to girls because at the end of the day he just wants to fuk.

An actual attractive man, is generally social, people love being around him. He is internally validated and his an abundant mentality. At the same time if he sees something he wants he'll take it. These guys are going around talking to EVERYONE and making everyone feel good when there around him. He might interact with the whole venue and if he likes one particular girl he'll go for the pull.

Now how does that fit into my life and actually make half of your statement true...I talk to maybe 50 people a day just off of offering value as I go about my day. When I go down the street everyone is going to get talked to as I go to wherever I'm headed...do you honestly think cold approaching is nerve wrecking or even a thought. The chicks can sense that I can get any chick I want...(It's been mentioned many times) so there is no need to play the dumb games they would play if you were coming from the position of a nerd.

Sex happens naturally, escalation naturally occurs, and her moving around just happens because she is loving the interaction, not because she's necessarily attracted.

 

[Keyboard Theorist]

Wow I always knew that the coldapproach wasn't that successful on this website despite many of the claims. But I never though it was this bad.

Snowplowman has a 0% success rate.
PHATRABBIT- got 2 dates and one lay in 122 approaches.'
Jayer it seems like isn't closing any deals either.

The way it seems is if you have a 5% fvck close rate on coldapproaches than your a fvcking DJ. I am going to hit the club tomorrow and will do coldapproaches there and will share my stats.

That was my point earlier, we still don't really know whether cold approaching is a viable option or whether it's a waste of time. The success rates are awfully low here, zero lays is by far most common even from 100+ CA's. I think the old fashioned method of hooking up with girls from social circles is the best way, but that's easier said than done. I don't even have a social circle so I'm screwed.

KT

 

[Snow Plowman]

That was my point earlier, we still don't really know whether cold approaching is a viable option or whether it's a waste of time. The success rates are awfully low here, zero lays is by far most common even from 100+ CA's. I think the old fashioned method of hooking up with girls from social circles is the best way, but that's easier said than done. I don't even have a social circle so I'm screwed.

KT

...wow man you haven't even gone out to cold approach and you already have limiting beliefs...

Cold Approaches is CONSISTENT, meaning if you wanted a gf right now...you could meet one. If you want to have a stable of women, you can get it. If you went backpacking to 10 different cities, you could get laid in each city.

Social Circle Game...that's childs play, and also the easiest place to get laid...heck everyone in the world gets laid because of there social circle. That is one place I will not sarge because I like having my female friends.

Guys don't realize they have to learn, which was the point of this thread, and honestly 90% of guys won't get good because there not dedicated...

Do you go out 4-7 times a week? Do you open 10 or sets?

This is why this site don't have much success because you feed into that BS that you heard guys who don't even go out say...like the saying goes a guy asked a violinist how to get to carnagey (Sp?) hall and he replied "Practice".

This is a take it or leave it right here...Meaning I'm not going to reply about this thread again, I'll let the chips fall where they may. If someone uses it great, if they pass it off as BS, whatever it's there life...

For past 2 months I've gone out almost everyday and approached 10-30 sets. I've had some bizarre experiences...
- Gaming chicks right in front there BFs
- Having Mixed Sets standing with there dik in there hands as I take there girls
- Having married chicks wanting me to go fuk them while there husband is on the other coast
- Having Foreigners wanting to leave NY with a bang, so there willing to have sex
- Meeting new cool people that my mind is drawn towards...this is BIG
- Meeting the type of women I enjoy
- Having some incredible interactions
- Going on wild adventures with chicks and learning even more about my city
- Walking down the street and talking to everyone
- Being in a quiet train and causing this great energy that causes chicks to give you fuk me eyes
- Having chicks demand that you take there #s
- Having chicks setup day2s the NEXT day
- Having chicks kinoing you and trying to win you over
- Having your social circle loving you, to the point that they'd all fuk you all you have to do is take them


That's just the external sh!t, the internal stuff is even more hard to describe because its more personal and unique to me...
- Moving towards and living the lifestyle I always wanted (Women complement my lifestyle and that's exactly what's been happening, there my sidekick)
- Being able to see the chicks who ooze polarity, seeing there RAS and where it's being focused, knowing how to play with it and pull it in my direction
- Having that Monumental Vibe, due to my INSANE Identity which I love too much. (This is what really have me loving this)
- Being able to play with sub-communication and frames rather than verbal content (What you say is irrelevant)
- Being able to go out all alone everyday and have crazy adventures, and when I'm with friends and wings...it's this gigantic fountain of good emotions
- Unplugged from the matrix and walking through the world like you own it. Nothing can stop me because I know who I am
- Fully understanding the social dynamics, how women works, seeing stuff unfold and overall enjoying being social

It's nothing like opening a 8set of moving hb8s who are going to the club and having to pull there RAS in to get them to even stop. Going through a sea of chodes just to claw one chick and having all the chodes stand there wondering "how does he do that?" Making out on the street, bouncing them around and pulling them home. Handling the obstacles, and logistic problems...

Every set is different, and the best thing of all is when you actually have values and don't just want to fuk a chick because she's hot, you see that many chicks are fascinating. Up to this day I will never forget one chick I let go, one of the coolest chicks I ever met.

This is what causes cold approaching to be super easy, because everything clicks when your an attractive man and not just some nerd trying to get notches on his bedpost...Look beyond the actual learning to approach, become that man that women are drawn towards...

Women will draw towards you like at this guys concert, but not because your singing, it's because you actually have a Core, your a man...not some Nerd PUA/DJ...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rgAw3Swt1ws&feature=PlayList&p=8DA5384576DB55CE&index=38

 

[Keyboard Theorist]

But you didn't have sex with these girls from CA's, so in terms of getting laid it was a waste of time.

KT

 

[Snow Plowman]

But you didn't have sex with these girls from CA's, so in terms of getting laid it was a waste of time.

KT

That was the past 2 months since I've been doing hardcore sarging. Me not getting laid is by choice due to the given circumstances. I value sleep due to my spiritual practices so I must get my sleep and still be able to do what comes first which is my schooling.

Now before I did all this Identity stuff and I was what I'd call a validation junkie. I was getting laid...I had 4 girls in rotation and a few other lays here and there. But I disliked my way of going about it because I wasn't that attractive man, I just knew how to do some stuff. If I knew what I knew now I'd have been more satisfied because now women enjoy being with me not because of what I did to get them, but because of who I am and how I am.

There is a huge realization shift when you go from one side of the success coin to the next side of the success coin. I honestly never understood how getting laid was the hard part, because that foundation was laid out since back when Mystery Method was the hot thing out.

The difference between now and then is the fact that women are attracted to me for me and want to be with me because there in my presence. I no longer get those little games that most chicks play. The chicks will now demand there #s and setup day2s in order to make me lead and pull. I could've laid more chicks in those 2 months based on the offerings I got, than back when I was learning all those BT spiking and using that to isolate and escalate. That has it's place and time but it's not the basis.

My game back in 07 when starting out was more BT Showoff game. You could tell I was gaming because the chicks would be shrieking and I'd be grabbing them up, to the chodes they'd think I'm pimp because of the crazy stuff I'm doing. Now I'm way more relaxed and calm, I suck women in and at times I will do that BT stuff just for fun. But again I got the girl not because I did something, it's because she's attracted to who I am.

If I wasn't getting laid back when I first started I would've never even made it this far, because I was a validation chaser back then, if I wasn't getting laid then I wasn't improving, but now that I've looked beyond the lay and went deeper into myself, I realize where the real importance is at. You literally will be getting pusvy thrown at you.