How to knock the 9.5s off their pedestals...

[squirrels]

OK I'm curious as to how you can nail the REALLY hot chicks. You know, the ones in the club that everyone's like, "Dayyyyyum."

I know everyone's going to come in here and say "neg-hits! ****y and Funny!" but the thing is these girls don't even give you a CHANCE to neg-hit them. If you so much as say hello to them, they throw you a big smile and then move on to get a smile/wink/drink/drool out of the next guy. I mean, most of the time they probably end up going home alone, which is a damned shame, but I want to know if anyone has found a successful way to just take these girls down off their pedestals and grab their attention long enough to break 'em down.

Please cite an example if you have.

 

[Tkman]

Dont give them attention ... which will drive them nuts. If the "HB 9.5" is dancing within your view dont give her any attention, give your attention to some other HB (5 and under).

I tried this **** on some HB 8 and she did take notice ... the ***** walked by me and grabbed my ****. (and I still ignored her ). I never go for those girls ... go after the nice mature ones, shy ones, friendly ones, down to earth, and the ones with a great sense of humour.

 

[Trance]

Sorry Tkman but that doesnt work. They have to see you before noticing you are not paying atention to them. Its a stupid game, because how much time will you not pay her atention for her to notice you're not paying her atention?
This doesnt work in clubing, only when you bring some friends, other brings friends, and there's a HB9++ in the group. That way, being all together that might work.

Btw, the concept of working is pulling it off often, and not when you get one of those by accident.

 

[All_Torque]

Ignore them. Pretend you haven't noticed, because you haven't.

Hit on a homely looking 7.5 and don't look back.

 

[Tkman]

Originally posted by Trance
Sorry Tkman but that doesnt work. They have to see you before noticing you are not paying atention to them. Its a stupid game,

what game? It's attitude buddy.

Originally posted by Trance
because how much time will you not pay her atention for her to notice you're not paying her atention?

The thing is I dont care what she likes me or hates me, I couldn't careless what others think of me. That's why I dont give them attention, it ain't no game.

Originally posted by Trance
This doesnt work in clubing, only when you bring some friends, other brings friends, and there's a HB9++ in the group. That way, being all together that might work.

Hhahahahahahahaha ............. ok.

 

[Kineti[C]harm]

Good looks, confidence and straight forwardness.

 

[playfulboy]

The other night I watched an 18 year old HB 9.5 musician get chatted up by all the males around her each time she had a break in her set.

She was in my friend's music course so she sat down at our table giving me plenty of opportunity to watch how they acted with her.

They drooled, they bought her drinks and told her how good she was.

I said nothing and ignored her, but at one stage when she temporarily had no-one trying to chat her up, I started talking to my friend about a fellow workmate who had an enormous beotch-shield and tried her "female charms" out on me first time I worked with her. I joked about how since I took her down from her pedastool we've become great friends and constantly flirt with each other on the job.

I could see HB 9.5 musician listening intently while pretending to not be.

Then my band got up and played - she had no idea I was there to gig as well (and I've been performing professionally for the last 7 years).

Needless to say, as soon as I finished playing, she came straight to me and began chatting - minus the beotch-shield. It had put her on the spot to realise she'd been under scrutiny right from the start with me checking out her musical abilities, not her body.

And no I didn't go for the number close as she is 14 years younger than me.

 

[Dee-Zy]

dance with their less attractive friend(s).

and get it REALLY going.

I love jealousy

 

[Genghis Juan]

Senor Fingers wrote a great article in the archive about situations where there are multiple girls where some of them are HB9's. He says you must first build social credibility with everyone else in your surroundings with exception to the HB9's, so they first see how popular and sociable you are. So that eventually, when you approach the HB9's, you don't look like a PUA, eventhough you want a PU.

In a place like a nightclub, this doesn't apply as much because you can't have conversations there. It mainly applies to parties etc.

 

[NewMan]

I can not comment on clubs - it's been a while since I've gone there to pick up - but I can tell you about bars, since that's where I mainly pick up women.

Ignoring them doesn't work.

What does work is seeming disinterested in them - acting like your not impressed with their good looks.

I work the following way:

If I see a hottie in the bar - I just see who she is with... how she's acting, what is she doing.

Then I react from there.

Example.

Last night I was at my local bar and there was a hottie sitting at the bar drinking. I noticed she was getting lot's of eyes from the guys - many of which would go to the bar and order themselves a drink - then stand there, staring at the girl waiting for her to talk to them - pvssies. (have you noticed how these guys act like vulchers around some prey)

Anyway - after a while I made my move. Soemthign very simple. (she had a rose in her hair) - so as I was walking buy her, went over to her and said - "Hi there - I just have to comment on how your hair looks - especially with that rose there. I couldn't help notice you from the other side of the bar"

Then without makign further comments I left her there.

Later that night I was outside in the patio and she came out to smoke and came over to talk to me.

I didn't number close - since it turned out she is the niece of the owner - and I don't want to fvck up my local bar.


You can't just get a hot girl to want you by totally ignoring her. You need an "In". When you have your "In" and you've established contact, then it's time to act like your not interested in her just because of her looks.

2nd example of mine.

2 weeks ago I'm at the bar with my wingman. there are 2 hot girls talking on the patio. I tell my bud that it's his turn to be point - but like the pvssy her is, tells me he not good at that. So I walk over, say hi, then tell the ugliest looking of the 2, that my friend has been wanting to talk to her most of the night, and that does she mind if I bring him over to introduce him to her. Sure she says. We are in.


Don't ignore her - just be indifferent towards her.

 

[becker]

Originally posted by NewMan


You can't just get a hot girl to want you by totally ignoring her. You need an "In". When you have your "In" and you've established contact, then it's time to act like your not interested in her just because of her looks.

This is pretty much the way I've experienced it as well. See, if you go up to a girl and act very interested before you even really take the time to know her, it's obvious that it's her looks that got you interested, and that's exudes shallowness.

However, if you take the time to get to know her without showing interest until after you know her better, then not only will you be doing yourself a service by making sure that she's someone you'd want to be with, but it also gives more depth to the relationship.

Totally ignoring a girl NEVER works. I remember when I was in like 6th grade or something I had this HUGE crush on this girl who was absolutely gorgeous, and I sort of sat around waiting for her to come talk to me, all while acting cool and patient. Never worked. Learned my lesson.

 

[Doppler4000]

Originally posted by squirrels
OK I'm curious as to how you can nail the REALLY hot chicks. You know, the ones in the club that everyone's like, "Dayyyyyum."

I know everyone's going to come in here and say "neg-hits! ****y and Funny!" but the thing is these girls don't even give you a CHANCE to neg-hit them. If you so much as say hello to them, they throw you a big smile and then move on to get a smile/wink/drink/drool out of the next guy.

You can get really hot chicks if they're into you... that's all there is to it. It's no different than getting average chicks, except that their standards are probably higher and your margin of error is a lot smaller.

If you're barely getting a chance to say hello, then they're not into you- and there ain't nothing you can say or do at that point to change that fact.

I mean, most of the time they probably end up going home alone, which is a damned shame,

Not to them... most hot chicks go out to clubs with the intention of feeding their egos, drinking free drinks that guys with no clue buy them, etc... and they're usually quite successful.

 

[TooColdUlrick]

ignoring hot chicks doesn't work unless there's some prior contact and some interest level on her part.

if there is neither, you're ignoring someone who doesn't give a flying flip about you.

 

[Sanjuro]

Use an aluminum baseball bat.

 

[ScrewIt]

Originally posted by TooColdUlrick
ignoring hot chicks doesn't work unless there's some prior contact and some interest level on her part.

if there is neither, you're ignoring someone who doesn't give a flying flip about you.

i agree, if you've never been in contact as in ice breaker. then i highly doubt ignoring hot chicks would work.

hot chicks intimidate AFC's all the time, most of the time they dont get much human contact cause they intimidate ppl so much. so yea make at least some prior contact w/her before u ignore her.
she's gonna be wondering why u aint drooling all over herlike the other suck ups do.

 

[gentleman193]

I just have to note that Martha Stewart -- who obviously was a hottie back in the day when she paid college by modeling -- had nobody to escort her out of the courtroom besides her attorney. That's b/c she's such a freaking biotch who's used her looks/image to get *everything* no man would go near her. So the no human contact thing is right on and it often makes these women difficult inthe long run.

That said I've managed to get a few "beautiful women" interested in me over the years. I never flirted with them, never showed any deferential behaviour, but gave them respect in the form of listening to their ideas about something. This was flattery coming from me -- while they were presumably too good looking for me I was presumably too smart/serious/busy for them.

Initially I had to approach them, of course, but once they were hooked on this kind of attention they would seek me out. The key is not to agree with them too much -- let them talk 90% of the time, but don't let them be right more than 50% of the time.

"I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure I'd agree. Why would you think this in light of that." And they are off again . . .

Also, make it clear they are not a priority. The more they seek you out the harder it gets to find you. This pushes them to use sex appeal to keep your attention the next time theyhave you cornered. Remarkably this is something the beautiful woman almost never does. She relies on beauty and her goddess status, not sex appeal, and almost never flirts, leaving few openings to advance. When she does flirt, she is far *less* comfortable with it then most women, so she is vulnerable here. If you give her positive reinforcement at this moment it's a far more powerful effect on her than others.

In other words, don't abandon your game in the face of her beauty. Instead, ratchet it up a notch or two and have more patience than usual. Just be prepared for disappointment once you finally get there.

 

[B9]

Originally posted by Sanjuro
Use an aluminum baseball bat.

Whatever happened to the classic of 'accidentally' shooting a ball in her head? Apparently, it worked great for a 'friend'.

If you don't put the HBs on a piedestal, there's nothing to knock them off of.

If they have put themselves on one, I am not sure they are worth the bother.

 

[AlwaysExcel]

Put the HB in a situation where she can't rely on her looks or they are not an issue. A HB9.5 lost her confidence when I asked her to partner with me in a pool game and she sucked. See my FR: Success in a sucky bar. As it turns out, she wasn't attracted to me but it still felt good to see her off her pedestal. BTW, ignoring these girls has never worked for me either because they usually don't give me EC or seem to know that I exist.

The HBs have to accept being in the situation you are putting them in though. I think that this girl accepted because she was surprised that I would approach her about something that had nothing to do with her HB9.5 status.