How to hold a door open for a women

[Don of Truth]

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Hold doors open for girls, women, old ladies..etc.

It's a great way to get a woman you are interested in started on the road to submitting to your will.

It's all in the way you do it too.
Do it slowly and deliberately
Your actions should be a constant flowing at the same speed.
If the woman is in a faster pace then you...have her slow down to your pace.
She isn't going to slam into you or the door.
If she isnt' interested then she might pick another door or tell you to hurry the f*ck up ! LOL

Try this:

A girl on a date: Open the door and allow her to walk through first. Do not look at her when she is walking through the door. Look out off into the distance.

A hottie at a club or a hottie in general you do not know: Same but LOOK at her eyes. Have her break eye contact as she walks through the door.

Girls, old ladies: Be friendly, smile, make eye contact, look away.

Women friends you are not interested in sleeping with: You can walk through the door first and hold it open or just do the same as you would for a date.

 

[CyranoDeBergerac]

First of all, if you're looking to curry favor with little girls and old ladies, you are wrong, just wrong.

What you're basically telling everybody here is that by putting yourself in the position of servitude you are indeed reenforcing your mastery over her.

Not even touching that one...

 

[DEKKA]

if you're scared of how you look opening doors you shouldn't be opening em. that's all i got to say bout dat.

-J

 

[Ice Cold]

Originally posted by CyranoDeBergerac
First of all, if you're looking to curry favor with little girls and old ladies, you are wrong, just wrong.

What you're basically telling everybody here is that by putting yourself in the position of servitude you are indeed reenforcing your mastery over her.

Not even touching that one...

How about this... After a date she thinks the date is over, but you kindly open the car's door for her. She can't refuse, cause you're being so exceedingly polite.

You take her to YOUR place, just to "show around for a few minutes". You open the door into your house and she walks in, as a lady. As a genleman, you'd be delighted to offer her a dance. During the dance, you talk very romantically and get her horny.

It is extremely hard to resist persistant politeness.

 

[CyranoDeBergerac]

Originally posted by Ice Cold
How about this... After a date she thinks the date is over, but you kindly open the car's door for her. She can't refuse, cause you're being so exceedingly polite.

You take her to YOUR place, just to "show around for a few minutes". You open the door into your house and she walks in, as a lady. As a genleman, you'd be delighted to offer her a dance. During the dance, you talk very romantically and get her horny.

It is extremely hard to resist persistant politeness.

I'm not saying don't be polite. I'm not saying don't be charming. I am both and its a good part of my game.

But to concentrate on a specific tactic and then proclaim it the key to getting into a woman's pants... at best he's ignoring the forest because he's found a tree he likes.

There's a fine line in the percieved difference between courtesy, chivalry, and male cheuvanism. Two of which are signals you're not going for. I did that on my first date and the woman was annoyed that I insisted on doing it and glared at me the whole night. Luckily, I already had a lock on her interest by that point.

Also, at some point it looks like you're doing it disengenuously and you look like a clumsy slickster. Again, I learned that one the hard way.

Bottom line: tricks are for kids. If you're going to get laid, you're going to get laid whether you're opening a door or not.

-CyranoDeBergerac

 

[gentleman193]

I think this is a good description myself. I already hold doors for women but never thought of how I do it differently in different cases. Also, never was thinking it would get me laid, from the door to the bedroom is a long way in my building, but hey, you never know . . .

 

[Eternal]

Originally posted by Don of Truth
MODERATOR: If you want put this post in the "Don Juan Tips". It won't let me delete my own post.

Yeah, I think I'll do that.

Moved to Don Juan Tips.

 

[Don of Truth]

Let me clear it up

Originally posted by CyranoDeBergerac
First of all, if you're looking to curry favor with little girls and old ladies, you are wrong, just wrong.

What you're basically telling everybody here is that by putting yourself in the position of servitude you are indeed reenforcing your mastery over her.

Not even touching that one...

By opening doors I am not advocating in any way to curry favor from the one you open the door for. That would be very AFC.

What I have noticed is that, done properly, it is a way to begin the road to submission of will. Understanding and expecting a woman to submit to you by her own free will is a wonderful experience.

When you open a door for a date and as she walks through the door you look around, scanning and watching what is going on. Do not look at her.
This is a subtle message suggesting you are a protector.
To be a protector is an alpha male quality.

You must not expect anything in return for this. Is is best not to even talk about it. Not to even bring it up. You just do it because this is what a man does. He expects nothing in return.

 

[Don of Truth]

Originally posted by CyranoDeBergerac
I'm not saying don't be polite. I'm not saying don't be charming. I am both and its a good part of my game.

But to concentrate on a specific tactic and then proclaim it the key to getting into a woman's pants... at best he's ignoring the forest because he's found a tree he likes.

-CyranoDeBergerac

It's not about being charming or getting laid.
The goal here is not to "get laid". I know this may go against the very reason many men are on this board but that is how it is.
The goal is simply to be a man. Whatever spoils may come is a bonus.

I also want to comment on your signature.
Your signature is:
"challenge, confidence, ****iness, charm, self-respect, self-discipline and a sense of humor are not "tricks". They are qualities of what makes a man"

*It is my view that these qualities are simply "by-products" when you act as an alpha male.
The intention is not to exude these "qualities". The intention is to be an alpha male through action.
Maybe an analogy will help:
It's sort of like when you burn wood. The action is the burning. The by-product is heat. You do not have to focus on the by-product to generate it. All you need is the action.

Hope that clears up any misunderstandings.

 

[Tkman]

I usually kick the door open.

 

[Walk this Way]

I usually BREAK the door open. Yes, I am a man.

 

[Don of Truth]

You see the light !

Originally posted by Tkman
I usually kick the door open.

Nice ! Now you're getting it !

Sometimes, just for fun, I get a bazooka and ...

 

[DJ_Dork]

Just open the freakin door, what's up with this "look at her eyes" "open it slowly"

 

[CyranoDeBergerac]

Originally posted by Don of Truth
It's not about being charming or getting laid.
The goal here is not to "get laid". I know this may go against the very reason many men are on this board but that is how it is.
The goal is simply to be a man. Whatever spoils may come is a bonus.

I also want to comment on your signature.
Your signature is:
"challenge, confidence, ****iness, charm, self-respect, self-discipline and a sense of humor are not "tricks". They are qualities of what makes a man"

*It is my view that these qualities are simply "by-products" when you act as an alpha male.
The intention is not to exude these "qualities". The intention is to be an alpha male through action.
Maybe an analogy will help:
It's sort of like when you burn wood. The action is the burning. The by-product is heat. You do not have to focus on the by-product to generate it. All you need is the action.

Hope that clears up any misunderstandings.

First off, if you were truly exercising a 'protective' quality you would've looked around before you let her walk through the door. If there was a marauding band on Ninjas on the other side, you would've led her right into them before you could've done anything about it. An extreme example, but it proves my point.

Further still in that regard do you honestly think when you're looking around while she's walking through she's thinking how charming and manly (and thus sexy) you are for 'being protective'? Ten bucks says she's probably too busy examining her new surrounds for herself. Mental masturbation is a dangerous thing.

Secondly I believe it is you who misunderstand me. In commenting on my signature you said exactly what my signature says. Instead of asking how to look like a greek statue, ask rather how to be a Greek statue, and in becoming you will look like one. The whole point of the quote is that form without substance is just so much fluff. Most guys, especially when they first come here look at these qualities like they're some kind of means to an end, instead of the end itself.

Now that that's out of the way, you advocate opening up a door as a way to lead her down the path to your divine end. Then you say not to expect anything, because men know not to.

That's precisely wrong on both counts. At first because you contradict yourself, and secondly because a man DOES expect something for his action, else there is no impetus to act.

Oh yeah, and by the way...I guarantee you'll garner a more favorable reaction form her by gazing warmly at her and admiring her beauty than you would opening a thousand doors. Never purposely avert your eyes from her.

-CyranoDeBergerac

 

[Don of Truth]

Originally posted by CyranoDeBergerac
First off, if you were truly exercising a 'protective' quality you would've looked around before you let her walk through the door. If there was a marauding band on Ninjas on the other side, you would've led her right into them before you could've done anything about it. An extreme example, but it proves my point.
-CyranoDeBergerac

Next date I plan on hiring a bodyguard then !

Damn ninjas, always getting in the way!

 

[CyranoDeBergerac]

Originally posted by Don of Truth
Next date I plan on hiring a bodyguard then !

Damn ninjas, always getting in the way!

Yup, they're fvckers! Grrr