How to go out with any women

[tactic]

You can't. You will however suceed with plentyful of women, but we really need to look at this on the bright side. If we keep wanting to have women and become obsessed over them just because they are pretty, that is no way you will suceed with women. Going out with women is all a purpose for a woman to go out with a man as well. They do not want men just for their body and use them, they want men who want them for what and who they are.
First, not to confuse you. Women are not the only answer to life. Second, you need to look at yourself more carefully before thinking about the opposite of a real man-loving-for-a-woman thought. Third, please go for the personality too. Fourth, you cannot just approach and think you will suceed with confidence because you might need to find a nice wear and a nice style with some diesel-look. Fifth, you need to increase your communication skills.

If you have all the five and know what you are doing, you will easily suceed.

From what I can see, many of the members here want women who have great looks. They want someone who they think will get the man to have a great feeling for himself. The thing is, you won't be able to go out with someone who is way out of your league. You really would not. The simple way is to thing clearly and see more outside and witness all the guys outside with the opposite gender.

So the main lesson is, suggesting to go out with women who ARE in your league is more likely to be suceeded. If you want to go out with someone who is out of you league, then you need to be in their league. You need to have their style, attitude, re-actions, communication, and it goes on. The looks do not really matter for many women. The women who want guys who are only good-looking are the ones who really have not experienced with men or they are just too thought-ful for themselves and acting a bit too wanting.

Tip : Date someone who is in your league for more better/easier communication. I guess this Don Juan Program was for men to boost their confidence, and so that they will be better at communicating with women. That still would not mean you will always date much "prettier" women.

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[Dee-Zy]

I'm a DJ.

I want to get hot girls - therefore I am pursuing hot girls.

There is no such thing as ANYBODY that is out of my league. My league is MINE and I decides who plays in it.

However, I DO agree that communication skills are important thus one should improve it.


But I'll tell you one thing, there is NO SUCH THING as somebody that is out of my league. Not all women will want to get with me initially, but that does NOT mean they are out of my league.


How can you post something like that on a Don Juan Board?

You sound just like my AFC friends. And trust me, I HATE saying AFC.

 

[Ice Cold]

So you're saying that there's such thing as "leagues". They are pre-determined and it's impossible for people from diff "leagues" to mate and have relationships?

 

[tactic]

Now, maybe there happens to be something that was mis-read, Dee-zy. I did not say you will never nor you will not (in the future) date "hotter" women just because you are in a current status or trait. I have posted saying, you cannot go out with all the women. It is an impossibility, because you won't meet them all. Also, If you think about this more clearly, perhaps there might be more of an understanding.

Why would most hispanic women show interest towards other hispanic men? Why would asian women show interest towards other asian men? The thing is, each woman wants a type for them. A different somebody, and from observation I have never watched an asian man walk with a hispanic woman kissing her around. Not that I am saying this is impossible for the asian man to do, but I just barely see it. Women want their type. Just because you are a Don Juan does not make you always think that you can get any woman you want. You would say to yourself "I will pursue any woman If I wanted.". The thing is, words won't work unless proven with action. You probaly might have pursued "hot" or "prettier" women because of your type.

No offense to the opposite genders but, would a man want to go out with a low-decent-looking, too-shy, and messy-hair-style type of woman? Is that your type of woman? To add it on, let's say she also had a personality of going out with only real good looking guys. Are you in her league now?

Let's set another example. I know two girls who were my friends that likes only one guy and nobody can make them like the person instead of the their first crush/love. The thing is, they only want the one man and no one else. Their interest is off towards other people. Are you in their league or type now? Would you want them now? Do you think you could go out with them? Would they be easy? The answer is no.

Ice Cold, I have posted that doing the five things will help you suceed with most women. Not all women. It is not impossible if you know what they want. It's that simple to say. Extremely hard to overcome to become their league unless you have gone off to a head-start with them, you would have to try even harder.

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[Dee-Zy]

Considering there are 30 some odd billion ppl on this planet and more than half are women, yes. I don't think I'll see more than 10 billion women. However, what do I care? I only pursue what I want. THAT is the only thing that matters.

You seem to have made up your mind, so nothing I will say will change anything. However, I will still say I dissagree. Infact, I'll add that if you have that mentality - you might as well leave this board. What's the point? You are already claiming that you are defeated, therefore a loser. What woman will want to be a loser?

No offense. I just want you to understand that your self-defeating mentality won't lead you anywhere as well as anybody else that will share this thought.

I also stand my claims that there is no such thing as 'anybody out of my league' as well as any other DJ's league.

 

[tactic]

A loser and defeated? Why could I be a loser just for the way I am and defeated for what? I didn't convince anybody by telling them that no matter what happens they will go out with their own league. I clearly mentioned about the five things so that they will be in most of the leagues with women because they've experienced more and more things.

You are just giving the "I will get any woman I want" attitude, I'm not even telling you not to. If that is the way you want it, then no worries. However, If you think going out with any woman is that easy, perhaps you could try giving it the best limit of your skills towards EVERY women out there and not get rejected at all.

I've already left the boards long time ago, I just came back to post again. I suppose you are just making yourself confident by claiming every women or half of the whole women in the world yours if you wanted.

There are 6 billion people in the planet. In which majority of them are women, which cuts down to 3.5 billion. Then, you have new-born babies and seniors. Then you have the young teenagers and toddlers. Which probaly goes down to 3-2.5 billion women. By the way, how are we ever going to see if we can go out with the 2 billion + women?

If you want to know what I mean, you should check to see if what being a woman's type means. Also, if you try wearing something that is ripped all over and baggy and dirty and never washed with bites all over them, you should approach them with a DJ manner and see if you can get them. Unless you want to say that a DJ must have clean clothes, then there you have it.

 

[Dee-Zy]

I think you are talking about 2 completely different things.


1. You won't be able to date every women because there is over 1-2 billion in the world, it is litterally impossible to meet them all, nevermind date them all.

true.

2. You won't be able to date every women because there will be that are out of your league.

false.


These are 2 different things, either you can't differentiate the two - or you are using a true statement to support your false one.

a third point I can see is that

3. You won't be able to date every women because each women has a different type.

this is partially true but this is where I'm saying the train of thought is wrong.


Why focus on somebody else's type? I focus on mine and what I want and that's final. End of story - nothing else matters beyond that.

No, not all women I will want will go out with me, I am aware of that - however, this is all basic DJ. You never focus on the ones you don't get - because you are too busy with the ones you already are with. If you aren't thinking about it - it is an unexistant reality for you.

You see what I mean?

Either unscramble your points, or I stand my point and won't reply anymore. I personnally see atleast 2 completely separate points. And yes, I agree with one but dissagree with the other, but you seem to have blended them in one.

 

[tactic]

That is what I mean by saying out of our leagues. We should not be focusing on other people's type if we are going to know the fact that we will not get them unless we "change" ourselves. We are out of someone's "league" because they are different in interests and types from us and others and each other.

Like you said before this post, you only go for the one you can and the one that fits for you. That is what I mean by being in your league.

When I said you won't be able to go out with women who are out of your league, I mean you will not be able to go out with a woman who does not want your type. It makes alot of sense. A woman watches the man with baggy-dirty and messy-hair type of guy talking to her with so much confidence and yet his voice honks and thinks positive about his looks because he does not care. Does that make the woman want to go out with him? That is being not in the league or type because that is an obvious turn-off for the woman. The thing is, the baggy-dirty-ish is no one's type, but that was just an example. So if the man wanted to go out with the woman, there are several things he needs to change. Then he is in the game/league.

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[Dee-Zy]

Just be careful. There is an enormous difference between being out of somebody league and not being someone's type.

You are confusing the two.

Being out of somebody's league is not being good enough for one.

Not being somebody's type is not having characteristics that one looks for.

There is a difference.

 

[tactic]

I think that the reason why a woman does not want to go out with them is the fact that they do not like their styles and attitudes which is not their types. So, whatever the man does (unless he changes his style and attitude), the man would not be good enough for the woman.

Let's change the topic for a moment, please.

Dee-zy, have you ever encountered with a woman who was your friend and realized that she goes for this one guy and never lets go and does not really do anything with him and no matter who likes her she just keeps on liking the other guy?

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[Dee-Zy]

Not being someone's type and not being good enough for somebody are different things. If you want to see it as one - then I still dissagre.

About your question, no.

 

[SuSHI]

Tactic, I have to state the obvious here...You are freaking clueless.

Don't worry i was like that too.

It doesn't really matter what "type" you are, as long as you are socailly aceeptable, and don't look like a homeless person, it is still possible to get many different type of girls.

The only catch is, if you are after a girl that doesn't dress like you (style), than your personality must do most of the work. So on first impressions, you might not get the interest level you want from the girls, but that doesn't mean that you wouldn't get her. You just have to hang around long enouh so that your personality can shine through.

Back in the AFC sack, even when i was around skater girls, i could not get much going. I dress like that, but my personality did not get a chance to shine cause i was such a pvssy.

If anything, being somewhat different can make you stand out, as long as you are not shy, you will do great.

 

[Meffid Man]

ehh..

I may be "out of you guys' league" in this topic...but i think tactic is talking about racial "leagues" due to the overwhelming explosion of race topic posts here(then again maybe not). I agree with that at least...Black dude easiest to get with black girl, white dude with white girl, asian guy/asian girl, etc. And its not a self defeating thought either. It's realistic thinking and something to take in to consideration when out and about. If you any 'race' that isn't white and your trying to get with a white girl (the apparent TYPE of girl that every dude on this board seems to be chasing...welcome to USA ), it WILL be more difficult, whether you like it or not. It's like saying Calculus class is going to be very difficult when your entering it with only an 8th grade math education level. It's not really self defeating to think that, IMO.

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[CLOONEY]

How to go out with any woman....

Originally posted by tactic
You can't.

Thats beautiful man. The sooner some of you guys realise this the better.

All woman are attracted to different personalities, different looks, you just gotta find those compatible with you. And if you make yourself all that you can be, your variety will be plentifull.

I used to think I could get ANY woman and try so hard when I was rejected by one and then feel bad when I couldnt convert her. Man was I wasting my time and being a chump!

This is a simple peice of advice and a beautiful peice. Always remember this!

 

[tactic]

Re: ehh..

Originally posted by Meffid Man
I may be "out of you guys' league" in this topic...but i think tactic is talking about racial "leagues" due to the overwhelming explosion of race topic posts here(then again maybe not). I agree with that at least...Black dude easiest to get with black girl, white dude with white girl, asian guy/asian girl, etc. And its not a self defeating thought either. It's realistic thinking and something to take in to consideration when out and about. If you any 'race' that isn't white and your trying to get with a white girl (the apparent TYPE of girl that every dude on this board seems to be chasing...welcome to USA ), it WILL be more difficult, whether you like it or not. It's like saying Calculus class is going to be very difficult when your entering it with only an 8th grade math education level. It's not really self defeating to think that, IMO.

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This is exactly what I am talking about. If you want to take out the "race and race" story, then It is definete that if you are socially acceptable (Sushi's words) and is their type, then you will easily suceed.

Dee-zy: Could you explain more on why they would be different? Anyways I would like to share a friendly story with you since I wanted to discuss about this:

There is a girl that I was friends with last year. Guys (friends and others) thought she was beautiful and very pretty. My best friend would say that she's pretty online and she would say "no i am not.", but she could have been just pulling his tail since she's been called beautiful/pretty alot of times. Anyways, what I am saying is that there has been guys who went to say she is pretty and all kinds of things, and she would give "lies" and make herself the Queen of pretty. However, even though there were guys who liked her (she knew about it too), she would still not like them back. She would always like one guy who is a year or two older than her and who she has liked for a very long time. The thing is, If I approached her and asked her out she would automatically say no or say something that will not hurt my feelings but with a give-away saying no. I have had another friend who was like this. She would only go for one guy and no matter how hott or alpha the guy looks, she would always like this one person. They are extremly hard-to-get and yet never really experienced much with the opposite gender (male) in relationships.

Now, back in the days at school I remember there were about four or five (or more) similar types of people. The groups that never really get attention were alot different than the ones that do get attention and the compliments. Though, I may say that they are humans and given the same laws, they have different attitudes and styles.
I remember being in the same class as this guy and he is the type of "gangster" and he has a style of it. Anyways, during the years I noticed that he had girls say they like him and even my friend (girl) who became in class with him began to talk about him and following him around as goes the same for other girls. Then after school, I noticed him hanging out with the group with girls in it too. The girls in his group are no ordinary (everyone's words about them). They wore tight shirts and jeans with straight or slight-curly hair with model-walking positions. I have to admit, they were pretty and yet if you are not their types they will not go out with you (I learned this from observation).

So that was just an example from my stories of past experiences. The girls that I mentioned who hung out with this guy liked him alot as a really good friend and it looked like they wanted him. He was the only guy I knew who had more than 3 girls follow him and listen to him. I guess he had charisma/looks/style. He was also cool. I used to be really cool with him until I just started with him for no reason.

There is a 1/1000 that you will become that good as the guy I mentioned. You need to be either raised or passed on with a bit of communication skills and with a strong heart. He might've learned alot with women, but he was still raised to master in socializing with them. He went out with Hispanic girls because he was hispanic too. If he was asian or a category where you barely see a Hispanic girl with a particular race, then he would have never probaly gone out with them. Unless he had game.



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[slipstreamer83]

I am with Tactic and Clooney here, I just want to make a point about the "leagues" thing.

The leagues´boundaries don´t have to be exclusively racial. As I posted in the "The girls we should approach" thread, I approached girls that were out of my league in that moment, and they were white like me. Now, it doesn´t mean that I cannot be in their league, I can; but for that I should change many things about me. And I´m not willing to do that since 1.- that new personality would not fit me, and 2.- there are girls from another league that can give me what I want, and I fit into that league.

My problem was that my "selection procedure" only took into acount the woman´s looks. Big mistake. At least this mistake made me understand all this.

 

[tactic]

I know a friend who has dated about 20 girls and has friends and cousins who have dated much more. He was raised to talk to girls and learned how to communicate with them with respect. He's told me all kinds of things just to see the difference between the facts from SoSuave and from my friend. They were the same, and I noticed It was just logic. At first, most of us feels discouraged and feels as If they have no idea what to realize about the opposite gender, until someone points out to you the fact and you say to yourself "Ohh why did I not think about that?".
We chose Don Juan because he was a great inspiration and because he was a fictional character who we all thought had the best for women.

We chose Don Juan because we wanted a very good life. Not only because of women, but because of money, business, family, house, etc. What If we chose another character? What if we just ignored admiring the idols? What if we had our own admirations inside ourselves that we yet have to reveal. Instead of calling my self a Don Juan, I can call myself tactic. Maybe there would be a competition.
# of women dated
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500 501

What would it have been like If some of us did not tell us the facts and the knowledges about women? Would the "AFCs" or the "discouraged guys" know anything further?

It goes on...

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[Craig Reeves]

No, not all women I will want will go out with me, I am aware of that - however, this is all basic DJ. You never focus on the ones you don't get - because you are too busy with the ones you already are with. If you aren't thinking about it - it is an unexistant reality for you.

Amen.

 

[tactic]

Using Craig's post on the quote from Dee-zy:

This is what every members here should realize. Usually they want to go out with women whom they find interest because their looks and because they want someone who they think is better than them yet they want to master their skills and show it to them. Don Juan gets women that he wants, but the hard way. Life is not easy.

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