How to get into a girl's friendzone?

[NealIRC]

Really simple…

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These are some of my lines, for girls on webcam sites:

Oh you mus get approached by a lotta guys at da beach.
Don't grocery store cashiers flirt with you?
If there was a chemical you can douse into people's drinks that will cause their pen-- to shrink, would you use it? ;D
You mus have some lucky gynecologists.
You could put 2 guys in a bathtub together if you wanted to.
If Trump saw you, he would instantly get rid of his trophy wife, for youu.
You shoulda starred in the Wonder Woman movie.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

at age 35, why would you even consider this?

social proof
practice with handling feminine energy
getting true insight into the female psyche in a non-dating, non-judgmental context

That said, it's still not really worth it, especially if the women are in their 30s.

To answer your question OP, I have no idea. I've never had a female friend and I've tried to recently and it's ****ing impossible.

 

[NealIRC]

These are some of my lines, for girls on webcam sites:

Oh you mus get approached by a lotta guys at da beach.
Don't grocery store cashiers flirt with you?
If there was a chemical you can douse into people's drinks that will cause their pen-- to shrink, would you use it? ;D
You mus have some lucky gynecologists.
You could put 2 guys in a bathtub together if you wanted to.
If Trump saw you, he would instantly get rid of his trophy wife, for youu.
You shoulda starred in the Wonder Woman movie.

And also:

"Have you ever sat nude in a car before?" (...) "That would really double the value of the car."

 

[BadBoy89]

Really simple…

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What should he have said, “You’re ugly.”?

It’s hilarious, alot of dating advice is: “Don’t do this, she will be turned off.” But none of the advice is “Do this, and she will be turned on.”
Where is that advice?

Its like, “Don’t ever bet on the Lakers,” Well, who should I bet on? ‘Oh I don’t know what, just don’t ever bet on the Lakers.”

Give me a break.

 

[NealIRC]

What should he have said, “You’re ugly.”?

It’s hilarious, alot of dating advice is: “Don’t do this, she will be turned off.” But none of the advice is “Do this, and she will be turned on.”
Where is that advice?

Its like, “Don’t ever bet on the Lakers,” Well, who should I bet on? ‘Oh I don’t know what, just don’t ever bet on the Lakers.”

Give me a break.

A lot of my questions to women are qualifying questions like, how many push-ups can you do? What's the most you ever did?

 

[AureliusMaximus]

By friendzone, I do not mean "people she knows" zone.

So, for examples.

-She could be moving places, and calls guys to help her move.
-She has a birthday party, invites guys over.
-She wants to go shopping in places, and calls a man or more to be her bodyguard(s).

If you are looking for friend zone you might as well shoot yourself like Barney Stinson.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Really simple…

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Exactly.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Really simple…

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If the girl is into you. She will love this.

 

[sangheilios]

I think some of the posters on here are missing what @NealIRC is getting at here. He is essentially asking what it is that men can do that ultimately leads them into the friendzone.

I think a big factor today is that many women are far too readily open to attention from other men, even when they are in a relationship. A woman may be going through a rough patch with her bf or maybe talking to some guy that she is pursuing that doesn't have much interest in her. In the meantime, she is totally open to talking to other men that eagerly give her attention. Eventually, things with the man she is truly interested in line up for her and the other guy she had been entertaining all along more or less falls to the wayside. With all this said, you can't really blame one party or the other, as both are equally guilty. The guy is guilty for being far too readily available and eager to give attention to a woman who he knows really isn't all that interested in him. The woman is guilty for essentially entertaining this other man's attention when she doesn't even have any real interest in him.

I would say that the majority of "friend zone" issues play out something like above. I feel a lot of women legitimately aren't even aware of when they do this unfortunately. I've seen some articles showing that women are far more likely to UNDERESTIMATE the interest that men have towards them and that men OVERESTIMATE the interest that women have towards them. I believe that this is the root cause for the vast majority of cases like this. Women think men are being friendly or just looking to chat when they fail to recognize that these men are only going out of their way to interact with them because they are interested.

With that said, there are some cases where women will blatantly lead men on for no real reason and waste their time. It's a bizarre dynamic that I still don't fully understand, but I believe that it's a man's job to be able to spot these women for what they are and knowing how to cut them off. I've met several women like this and they are a complete waste of time, they are like energy vampires that bring no real value.

 

[Michael Chief]

It’s hilarious, alot of dating advice is: “Don’t do this, she will be turned off.” But none of the advice is “Do this, and she will be turned on.”
Where is that advice?

Are you kidding me? Sosuave.net is one of the OG pickup community forums. There is turning-women-on advice everywhere. How have you not learned about the multitude of ways to turn women on that the pickup community as a whole has been espousing for literal decades?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

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With that said, there are some cases where women will blatantly lead men on for no real reason and waste their time. It's a bizarre dynamic that I still don't fully understand but I believe that it's a man's job to be able to spot these women for what they are and knowing how to cut them off. I've met several women like this and they are a complete waste of time, they are like energy vampires that bring no real value.
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I’ve been the victim as well as the perpetrator of such time wasting. Many people like attention and flirting & a bit of ‘leading on ‘ is fun. It’s unethical, so I don’t let it get too far.

 

[sangheilios]

With that said, there are some cases where women will blatantly lead men on for no real reason and waste their time. It's a bizarre dynamic that I still don't fully understand but I believe that it's a man's job to be able to spot these women for what they are and knowing how to cut them off. I've met several women like this and they are a complete waste of time, they are like energy vampires that bring no real value.
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I’ve been the victim as well as the perpetrator of such time wasting. Many people like attention and flirting & a bit of ‘leading on ‘ is fun. It’s unethical, so I don’t let it get too far.
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I think there are different degrees of severity with something like this. I totally agree that people like attention and that some non serious flirting can give someone else the wrong impression. However, I'm referring to more serious instances of this.

A good example I went through back in 2018 was a girl I met at my gym that I had approached, our first interaction seemed to go really well. Anyway, the next time I saw her she approached ME and gave me her number and we made a plan to go hiking up an observatory in our area. She ended up flaking on our date and ghosted me, though continued to try to flirt and use me for attention whenever she'd see me. I later found out that this particular woman did this with a lot of other men.

Another example I had was from the gym as well, I asked for her number and she said she had a boyfriend, to which I said "Ok, well it was nice to meet you.". This girl went OUT of her way to flirt with me, talk to me, etc. after that for no reason but for attention. This is a case of a woman with bad social skills who lead a man on that had already shown interest.

Some other examples I've heard of are women going out on dates with men that they have no real interest in. There was one woman I crossed paths with that blatantly bragged about going out with men from online dating sites just to get free drinks, food, etc.

These are more on the extreme end, but they aren't all that uncommon either. I think men just need to be more upfront with women they are interested in instead of potentially risking stringing themselves along. I'd say the vast majority of these friend zone cases could be prevented by this simple tactic.

 

[CornbreadFed]

The only “friend zones” I have been in are from work or from the GFs of my friends. Usually girls just ghost me if they aren’t interested in dating, so a friendship is off the table.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

OP,

All the skills you think are going to help attract women are not it. Women don't give a Sh*t about about intellect, politics, how good you can make a website, and they damn sure don't give a fu*K about what building the richest man got killed in lmfao

Females are attracted to a few things:

-Good looking faces
-athletic and lean physiques (muscles)
- masculine sex appeal
- confidence
- mouthpiece ( verbal communication. talk that talk)
- money and status

Basically Testosteronized males (SHoutout Pook)

Doing anything to improve any of the above will help you more than increasing your IQ or knowing a bunch of trivial bullshi*t

 

[NealIRC]

OP,

All the skills you think are going to help attract women are not it. Women don't give a Sh*t about about intellect,

Maybe girls in gang don't, but upper-class White women do.

and they damn sure don't give a fu*K about what building the richest man got killed in lmfao

Yea maybe White people don't, but people of color do.

Females are attracted to a few things:

-Good looking faces
-athletic and lean physiques (muscles)
- masculine sex appeal
- confidence

Yea, I be standing shirtless, or shirtless with a shirt wrapped around my neck, for the beach scene story.

 

[SW15]

The only “friend zones” I have been in are from work or from the GFs of my friends. Usually girls just ghost me if they aren’t interested in dating, so a friendship is off the table.

That's been my experience. The GFs and wives of your friends could even be called acquaintances and not friends. Female work colleagues are typically acquaintances. With #MeToo, you don't want to get too close to female colleagues. If you happen to see an ex-female co-worker after one or both of you depart that company, that could be a friendship. I can't imagine too many close friendships developing out of those circumstances. That's also likely to stay an acquaintance-ship.

 

[Dr.Suave]

How to get into a girls friendzone? Seriously? Are you f0cking trolling us?

On the 0.0001% op is not a troll, all you have to do is orbit her, out her on a pedestal, and never escalate.

 

[CornbreadFed]

That's been my experience. The GFs and wives of your friends could even be called acquaintances and not friends. Female work colleagues are typically acquaintances. With #MeToo, you don't want to get too close to female colleagues. If you happen to see an ex-female co-worker after one or both of you depart that company, that could be a friendship. I can't imagine too many close friendships developing out of those circumstances. That's also likely to stay an acquaintance-ship.

Wait, I have one friend that’s an insta thot from school, but all of our conversations revolve around her drama. I don’t hang out with her as much. I guess to answer op, get in to certain hobbies, activities, schooling, etc.

 

[NealIRC]

On the 0.0001% op is not a troll, all you have to do is orbit her, out her on a pedestal, and never escalate.

Yea that's me as a friend to her, but I was asking how to get her to be a friend to me.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

Maybe girls in gang don't, but upper-class White women do.


Yea maybe White people don't, but people of color do.


Yea, I be standing shirtless, or shirtless with a shirt wrapped around my neck, for the beach scene story.

Speak for yourself. You over here acting like you know what both white and black women want and you get NEITHER. 90% of the women in my life are colored, and I can assure you that my intellect wasn't what got them to be submissive for me. Anyone who tries to distinguish differences in female attraction among races is ignorant and making excuses. All women get wet from the same sh*t...