HOW TO GET a Social Life Pt. 1

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In the spirit of being cool and keeping it real, here is a guide to getting a social life. It's sort of 'big insight' focused and is geared towards people who are a bit hard up socially at the moment. Ever been lonely and frustrated that everyone just assumes you know this stuff and that there's no information on it? Yeah, me too. Getting this handled will improve the quality of your life bigtime and improve your game via the kind of subtle slow-burn effect that happens whenever you work on your overall personality.

Basics and Prerequisites:

You don’t need to be a super cool person to get a social life. In fact this is a myth that lonely people tend to subconsciously subscribe to. As long as you’re reasonably friendly and cool you can get a group of friends to hang with. They may not be your 100% ideal friends but that’s fine to start. That said, you should have the following handled:

-Basic conversation skills. Can hang around with someone one-on-one and keep the convo going fairly well. Can hang around a group of people and contribute your fair share. Know how to make the conversation enjoyable for the other person (ie. funny, interesting, etc) and not bore them to death by being negative or only talking about what you want to talk about. Ideally you want to have everything you say be interesting and be able to do 95% of the talking if need be.

-Basic good attitude. We’ll get into this in detail a bit later. For now I’ll just say you need to be fairly friendly, sociable, and think well of other people.

-Basic social skills. By this I mean being able to relate to other people and make a good impression and not come across as a total idiot. You don’t need super or even good social skills. Lots of dorks have friends but if you can’t even talk to people without coming across as rude or bitter or unpleasantly nerdy or totally down on yourself then work on that first.

-Basic level of looks. Who wants to hang around a total greasy slob? Groom, dress half-decently, be clean etc.

-Some level of balls. Being able to phone people or ask them to do things with you without wimping out. Being able to chat to strangers at a party. Being able to speak up in a group, etc, etc, etc. Trying to make friends can be a bit scary. You might get rejected. You might have awkward moments. They might not like you. You have to be able to get past all these feelings. Luckily they’re much more minor than when you deal with women.

The ability to be a fun 'date'. So when you hang with people you're fun to be around. You do interesting things. Cool situations develop when people hang around with you.

Some level of persausive ability. So when you call up joe to do something and he's not sure you can go 'ah, come on man!' and convince him to come. You gotta twist people's arms a bit sometimes :)

Get the idea? You don’t need to reach a very high standard to make friends in this world. However if you’re super shy or insecure you may recognize that you have trouble in these areas.

Of course the better your social skills are to begin with the easier this will all be. More people will like you and they’ll be much more likely to want to hang out with you.

Where lonely people make mistakes:

This is the portion where I talk about what NOT to do. Lonely people tend to do the following things wrong:

-They tend to be ashamed of the fact that they’re lonely and hide from other people even more, obviously making the problem worse.

-They tend to be negative and have a bad attitude about other people. I’m not sure if this is a symptom of loneliness or a root cause. If it’s a symptom I imagine the thinking is along the lines of ‘I’m a loser, these people don’t like me, so I’m going to reject them before they reject me’.

-They tend to be insecure and down on themselves. They also tend to think that no one likes them. If they interact with people they assume the other person came away with a bad impression of them.

-They tend to have poor social skills. In particular they tend to be so preoccupied with their own insecurities and how they’re coming across to the other people that they don’t focus on the other person.

-They tend to lack initiative and expect other people to do all the work and go out of their way to include them. They falsely believe that if no one invites them to do anything it means no one likes them.

-If they do get invited somewhere, there’s a decent chance that they’ll turn it down. Perhaps to confirm their self-image that no one likes them and they won’t have fun anyways. In other words they pass up opportunities to increase their social skills.

-They may be so socially inexperienced that they just don’t know how friendships work or what to expect of them. Therefore they may overreact to normal things like an argument or having plans cancelled on them.

You can see how this overall mindset could prevent you from making friends.

Attitudes to have:

Now let’s start talking about what to DO.

The following is the number one attitude to have. It is:

Always assume that all your friends and acquaintances think you’re awesome and love hanging out with you but that they are benignly thoughtless about you and have no initiative whatsoever.

Besides being plain true with some people, this gets at a lot of things but mainly it’s saying that if you want to have a social life YOU have to do the work and take the initiative. Sure lots of times your friends will call you up to do something but oftentimes they won’t (but they don’t hate you, their minds are just somewhere else). So if you want plans every weekend then don’t just sit around on your ass waiting for people to call you. You gotta put in the work. You have to do things like:

-Keep in touch with your friends. Don’t assume they’ll drop you a line. Like it says above, assume they’ll be happy to hear from you and eager to hang out but that they are busy, or thoughtless, or be a bit nervous and will never get in touch with you on their own. This is often the way it is with some people. If you want to keep the relationship alive assume you have to keep it going.

-Find out what everyone’s up to each weekend. Don’t hope they’ll call you up and just let you know when they’re free. Give them a quick call or email and find out what they’re up to. They may be busy or they may be free some days. Once you know everyone’s schedules you can plan things out much better.

-Actually invite people to do something with you (this also means you have to be interesting enough to come up with things to do.) Yes, it takes a minor amount of balls but if you want to go out on x day you have to invite someone to go with you. Again, sitting on your ass and waiting for the phone to ring is not good.

-Asking if you can come. No you’re not showing what a loser you are by tagging along. If someone is doing something that sounds cool then you might as well ask if you can come too. You can phrase it all cool like “Mind if I join you?” or “Sounds cool, maybe I’ll show up”.

-Being able to coordinate between several people to organize some sort of bigger outing. At a simple level I’m talking about something like phoning three people and asking if they all want to go to a certain bar on a certain day.

This is the biggest lesson in the post as far as I’m concerned. If you want a social life forget any dumb ideas you have about being a loser if you have to work for it and put some effort into getting together with people. Invite people to hang with you like a mother****er. But ****! I’m getting ahead of myself here. Let’s get into getting some people to potentially hang with in the first place.

BIG LESSON # 2 is:

At first don’t be picky about who you hang around with or what you do with them.

This is true whether you’re trying to get some semblance of a social life together for the first time in your life or if you’re starting over from scratch because of some life circumstances. At first your goal is to just get something going, some alternative to watching TV alone every night. Only once you’ve got more options can you afford to be choosy. A related lesson is:

Never turn down an invitation.

Probably heard that one before right? Baring exceptional circumstances if someone invites you to do something and you have no other plans, you should go. It’ll be more fun than you think and you’ll get some socializing under your belt. Sure, once you’re ultra popular and are inundated by requests for your time then you can ignore this rule, but not until then.

This also gets at the idea that you’re going to have to make little sacrifices for the sake of your social life. Like if someone calls you up and invites you to meet them at a bar and it’s 11pm on a Friday and you’re tired, well you should get ready and head out. Never turn down an invitation.

So anyways, if at first you have to hang around with some guys who are a little dorky or sporty for your taste, well just suck it up until you have more going on. Of course if they *totally* suck and make fun of you don’t put up with that, but if all you have is a vague feeling that you could do better or these folks aren’t totally your type keep with it.
 
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HOW TO GET a Social Life Pt. 2

Of course not being picky is good, but actually liking lots of people is better. The more types of people you like the more people you’ll want to hang with. But I can’t change your personality. If you’re naturally a bit aloof and selective about who you like then what can I do?

Okay, where are we? I’ve told you that you need to take the initiative and not to be picky at first so that you can shake off your lonely aura. But I’m still getting this backwards. How about a section on how to meet people in the first place like I promised at the end of the last section?

Okay, next lesson is:

Getting new friends isn’t some big deal. If you hit it off with someone get their contact details and then invite them to do something with you. If you keep hanging out with them and continue to get along well you have a new friend. If things peter out after a couple of times it’s no biggie.

So one thing is to * always get people’s contact details right away *. You ideally should have a cellphone for this. In fact you just need a cellphone period because too many of your plans will fall through at the last second without one. Anyways, a number of times I’ve met someone cool only to not get their details and never see them again. If I had just gotten their number I could have invited them over to smoke a bowl or something.

The other thing to take away from this is that friendships can develop super quickly. If really click with someone they can become your ‘those two guys are attached at the hip’ friend in a matter of days. I used to think that a certain amount of time had to pass before you could become friend with someone. Like you had to chat to them 3 – 5 times before you could invite them to have a beer with you. Nah, things are quicker than that. Dumb assumptions.

Alright, this isn’t going to go in any logical order. I realize that now. Next lesson is:

The best way to get someone new to do something with you is to suggest something that requires little effort on their part.

Why do I say this? Well one thing I haven’t touched on yet is the fact that most people already have social lives of their own. They’re busy, they’ve got things to do. They‘re probably happy with what they have and aren’t going out of their way to make new friends. So you’re best bet probably isn’t going to be asking them to do something that takes a lot of effort on their part. They might wonder what the point of it all is and bow out. So don’t plan some giant outing that they have to travel two hours to for three weeks from now. Ask them to grab a quick beer with you after work or class. Or agree to meet them somewhere where they’d be going anyways.

Meeting people

I’ve already mentioned that making friends isn’t some huge deal and if you meet someone cool anywhere to just get their contact details and invite them out. Still you gotta meet new people to do that.

-First, the easier way to get an instant social life is to start hanging with some brothers from asf if you can. Go to your local lair meetings if there’s one in your area. Anyone who actually shows up to them and sarges on a regular basis is likely to be pretty cool. Yeah, you’ll probably want some non-asf friends too but it’s an awesome start.

-Next are the usual places of work and school. If you get along well with anyone invite them out right after work or class. They might say no, boo hoo. Keep it quick and casual at first because some people may have decided that they already have friends and you’re just somebody from class/work. So you may have to break them into the idea of hanging with you.

-Then there are the friends and acquaintances of your friends and acquaintances. You’re bound to get along with a couple of these people. Get their contact info and do something with it. Don’t assume you’re going to see them around lots more and you don’t need it. Of course you might see them all the time, but just in case. Social circle wise the best-case scenario is to make one cool friend then hit it off with all their friends/roommates and become accepted into their crew.

-Meeting people at clubs and bars is pretty easy if you want some club and bar friends. You can make friends with the regulars and then just chat to them whenever you go to that bar. Or you can get their details and call them and ask if they’re going to that bar that night. Or you can make plans when you see them to meet them at that bar on x night when it’s y’s birthday or whatever. Meet their friends too. You’re brave enough to chat up people in bars right?

-Random people at parties are good.

-Your neighbours are good too. You know when you see them around and you both say ‘let’s hang out’ or ‘drop by my place sometime’ and don’t mean it? Well take them up on their offer.

-People at the dojo or rock climbing gym or swimming pool or whatever are obvious candidates.

That’s pretty much it. If you’re struggling to meet people you gotta get out more. Join some organizations on campus if you’re on a campus. Just don’t join something for the sole purpose of meeting people and not meet anyone and be stuck there. If you can swing it try getting a job at a sociable place. I hear restaurants are good. Bars are probably better. Anywhere with a large number of staff who are around your age is good. You should also consider going out to places and hanging out by yourself. Sooner or later you’ll end up starting a conversation with someone. I’m talking about stuff you’d want to do anyways like seeing live music, going to comedy shows, having a drink after work, going to art galleries etc etc etc. Find out what’s going on in your community and what it offers. Get out there.

Making it easier:

Two things will make it easier to meet people. One is to have a crutch of some sort. An example would be a laptop computer. If you’re hanging around campus you can invite people to watch movies with you in between classes. Another one is to have the cool apartment that everyone hangs around at. A great crutch is weed. Just invite your fellow smokers to smoke a splif with you. Not your thing? No worries.

The second thing is to be good at/experienced in a variety of activities. Don’t be all: “Oh, you’re all going Salsa dancing? Oh, I don’t dance. Sorry.” No **** that ****! Be all: “Oh cool, I’ve done that before. Yeah, I’d love to come”. If everyone wants to throw the football around on the weekend it helps if you know how to play football. If someone asks you to play pool it helps to know how to play half decently. If everyone wants to go drinking it helps if you too like drinking. You get the idea.

Here’s another lesson:

Building up a good social life takes time. Don’t expect it to happen overnight. It takes a while to meet a core of cool people who you really like. It also takes time to develop relationships with people. Sometimes not as long as you think but it usually takes a while before that cool guy you met is at the point where it’s pretty much assumed you and him are hanging out every weekend. So be patient. Be prepared to be bored and lonely at times. Keep working all those new people you’ve met as if they’re chicks and you’re trying to get a harem together. Eventually it will all come together.

The longer term

Okay, so you've met some cool people and hung around with thme. Cool. Well obviously you gotta keep hanging out with them and getting along or the budding friendship won't go anywhere. So keep on top of it. This is where some pitfalls occur. The main thing to NOT do is be needy. Don't sweat it if someone is busy that weekend. If they're not home just leave a message. Don't call them back seven times. Don't get one friend and then expect them to fulfill all your friendship needs and hang out with you everyday. Don't freak out if someone forgets to call you back or it slops their mind to invite you somewhere or if they show up a bit late for something. Be cool about the whole thing.

Your developing social life will be unpredictable. You might end up with a crew of friends who all know each other. You might end up with several individual friends. The guy you get along with today might not work out in a few weeks. The person you only sort of like may turn out to be cooler than you thought. Go with the flow.

Some thoughts on the nature of friendships:

Just a quick section based on the fact that I used to be clueless about what it meant to have a friend so:

-Don’t expect your friends to be perfect. They’ll all have some flaws or things you don’t like about them. No big deal as long as they’re cool overall.
-Don’t think it’s the end of the world if you argue or bicker.
-Don’t think you have to share all the same opinions or anything.

I think that about covers it
 
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kinda pathetic that someone would need this
 

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Very good post and I agree with pretty much everything said here.

It makes a difference to read something practical, comprehensive and honest, rather than the idealised and oversimplified "approach! approach! approach!" posts.
 

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Originally posted by bossdog
kinda pathetic that someone would need this
No, what would be pathetic is a thread entitled: "How to Want a Social Life". That's what most guys here need - you won't work to get what you don't want.
 
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very helpful post its very very useful material. I'd a recommend a sticky to this thread.
 

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Originally posted by Dimebag_Darrell
I'd a recommend a sticky to this thread.
I second that! There really isn't enough advice or focus on building a social life.

A social life isn't merely a means to get girls, but it's a way of making friends, getting out more, learning from other people; building confidence, charisma, experience and social skills; overcoming social anxiety, finding motivation to improve and achieve greatness, having fun and so much more.

I'm not just coming up with this stuff off the top of my head. This is coming from personal experience and these are all the things I have gained from my new found social life.
 
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