How to Deal With a 9-10 w/ all Guy Friends

[ArrJAy]

I have a girl I've been gaming for quite some time. She is definitely a 9 or 10, in her late 20s, career minded, and is very independent. The only challenge is that she has all guys friends and her only friends that are girls are the girlfriends of some of her guy friends.

She has invited me to a weekend getaway with her and all of her friends. 6 of them being guys and 1 of them being a girlfriend of one of the guys. 2 of the guys have already spilled their guts to them about how they feel about her and she denied them by putting them into the friend zone. 1 of the guys she lost her virginity to over 8 years ago but has not shown interest in her since and games other women in front her along with making it known that he is ****ing other women. This guy is probably running the best game right now but I have really befriended him and earned his respect which he has made known to her. Great thing is that I'm in the best physical shape out of all of them and have a very strong business career that she is very familiar with. Did I mention that she has already told me that we can cook and havd fun in the jacuzzi?! To also add in my favor, all of the guys want to go snowboarding and are looking to me to teach them since this is their first time and I am an 8 year veteran.

I want to go in there being an alpha male the whole time but how should I go about dealing with these other guys that will obviously be trying to win her attention? I was also thinking of going in saying I would cook for everyone a manly main course that no one has tried yet then have the girl that everyone is trying to game cook all of the side with me. Would I be setting myself up for failure in this aspect? Any and all advice on how to deal with this whole situation is appreciated!

 

[Purefilth]

I think you're already in the Friendzone.

"Gaming for quite some time"= I can't accept that I've already failed.

"All guy friends going"- you're one of them.



Game other girls while you're there, be indifferent to her.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Here is how you game her: you don't. Move on. Girls, especially attractive girls who's friends are all male are nothing but attention wh0res. Ignore my advice at your own peril.

 

[Mike32ct]

Also stop "trying" to be the "alpha" of that or any group. Be yourself, but try to use your niche or strength to your advantage.

Maybe you are a kick a$s cook. Use it. Maybe you're good at guitar or dance. Use it. Maybe you're the most ripped guy. Wear clothes to show that off.

But all in all, I agree with the others that its a long shot. She's seriously AWing.

I mean she can mention the hot tub, but unless you have a realistic plan to try to isolate her from all those dudes and get her in the hot tub, it's gonna be tough.

I personally wouldn't participate (i.e. go on this trip) with the ratio so stacked against me.

 

[Renegade357]

You're in orbit dude. Don't waste your time on this trip.

 

[Plutoman]

Umm, 7 guys, two girls, one of them committed?

Good luck, dude.

Don't even bother. If you want to go, don't even try. Don't care, don't bother. That's honestly the only way you could maybe get some, too, but with orbiters, it's unlikely. She's invited you all out because she considers you and them safe, ideal for attention. With the guys all competing over her she gets to feel great about herself, and not have to worry - they'll all ****block each other (and you).

 

[Robert28]

Just tell her "Sounds like a sausage fest to me, sorry but being in a hot tub with a bunch of dudes ain't my thing. Maybe you and I can do something when you get back." It gives her a playful neg and also let's her know you want to hangout with her one on one. It should also let you know where you stand with this girl because A) she's either going to laugh and say "sure we can do something when I get back, just me and you. B) she's going to be insulted that you're putting down her precious friends and since you won't fall in line to worship her like they are. you just saved yourself from a sucky trip where you'll spend half the time wishing you were somewhere else. It's alot easier to isolate a girl when the guys aren't around then it is when they are around. Take the easy route like I suggested.

 

[floydb25]

In my experience, these kind of girls are very stuck up, high maintenance, selfish, egotistical, have low attention spans, etc, because they have too many options to care about anyone. Guys are easily replaceable, neglected to orbiter status, used, etc.

Its all in front of you. Guys come and go. Your turn is right around the corner. Once she loses interest, and deems you "not good enough" - you'll be another back-up plan, doormat, ego boost, or whatever purpose you can serve to the royal highness. It doesnt matter if she's interested right now - you'll still be dropped in an instant.

These girls KNOW theyre attractive, which is why they act this way. Power corrupts. And they have a lot of it - over men. And they love it. Women hate them, because theyre painfully shallow, selfish, vain, untrustworthy, disloyal, conceited, and everything else guys dont notice because theyre infatuated with them. Women look at the personality, and cant stand them. So they stick with "guy friends" to control, toy around with, and feed their egos. The world revolves around them. Dont believe otherwise, or sympathize with her - while she's USING everyone.

These are all red flags, by the way - what you list. This is her lifestyle, and entire being.

Get in and get out is your best bet. No expectations. And dont take her seriously.

 

[dap]

I agree with some of the others. A different approach would be to go on the trip but say that you have to come late or leave early. Make them wonder what you are up to (hopefully something with other women). This girl may like you (unlike what some others have said). She may hang out with mostly men so that they are obstacles and filter out low quality males. It looks like you got through the filter (befriended them all), but to really make a move on this girl you need to isolate her. This should be easier now that her friends trust you, but I don't forsee it happening on this trip where everyone is living on top of each other.

 

[BlackEricNorthman]

If it's a trip to a ski resort somewhere nice I say go, but not so much for the girl go for the experience. If it's a getaway at a place with lots of tourists coming and going it's a great place to meet lots of women looking for ONS far from home. You can have a great time with your girl too, but don't go the focus on making some grand romantic gesture to her. You'll put way too much pressure on yourself to perform and make things awkward between you and her.

Just have fun. Find the nearest bar or social hangout to meet other sexy female tourists in the area, try to include her in any fun activities you may see or think of when you are out there, but if she just flat out refuses you/won't spend a second alone with you without the others around/ has a negative personality shift towards you on this trip then you know she's been playing you from the start. Get thee to a nearby cougar bar!

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

No way I'd go on a trip where the ration was 6-1 dudes. fukk that!

 

[foreverAFC]

learn to avoid retarded chicks like these

 

[SamTheHobit]

learn to avoid retarded chicks like these

This sounds about right.

 

[floydb25]

Oh yeah... Dont assume you are a special cookie, and that she's not gaming YOU. I dealt with these types before, and they were huge players / *****s. They claimed EVERYONE was their "friend" - only to fool around with all of them - then lie about it. They always had "guy friends" everywhere. But thats only what they said to each individual one. Same bull**** story. They knew how to play the game well, because their entire lives revolved around ****. Lies and manipulations were rampant. No one ever got to "keep" them - because everyone was being played - without knowing it. They all thought they were special and unique and worth keeping over everyone else. Bzzzzt. Wrong. They all got played, and were fed the same lines to feel special and unique. Its how players operate.

Remember: these arent friends - they are OPTIONS. Dont believe otherwise, because they always claim to have zero interest, and have a huge story to tell - only to **** them the next day.

Never trust a very good looking, out-going, flirty girl with only guy friends, or lots of them. Theyre all about the **** and attention. Guaranteed.

Youre currently - I'm guessing - caught up in the challenge. Wanting to be the worthy one to make it out of the pack. But theres such thing as too much competition, too many options, and too many RED FLAGS. Hot girl with only guy friends... Come on. She ain't single for ****. She's "independent" because she befriends and ****s everybody - then jumps to the next guy, and moves the rest to back-up status, to be used as necessary.

Read between the lines.

 

[foreverAFC]

Youre currently - I'm guessing - caught up in the challenge. Wanting to be the worthy one to make it out of the pack.

i just shook my head when he said.... "I want to go in there being an alpha male the whole time"

epic lols

 

[floydb25]

Yea... **** doesnt work. No matter who you are, or how awesome and attractive they find you (for the time being) - it doesnt change who THEY are: how they operate, treat / use / categorize people like objects, fool around, jump from guy to guy, lose interest quickly, have rediculously high standards, dont give or chase for ****... And so forth. Everyone is the best thing ever to them... Totally a keeper... For a week or 2 months... Until they lose interest. Then its onto the next shiny. The grass is always greener, because they have opportunities everywhere - and they know this.

You dont game high class, conceited, spoiled *****es - you bang and forget. Or just forget.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Not to burst your bubble, but...

I have a girl I've been gaming for quite some time.

Let me be real with you: girls know game. And they respect game. Heck, they'll even go out with a dude they KNOW is gaming them. But if the interest isn't there, it doesn't matter. And if a girl IS interested, you won't have to game her for a "long time" to get her.

She has invited me to a weekend getaway with her and all of her friends. 6 of them being guys and 1 of them being a girlfriend of one of the guys.

She's not interested. She's asking you and 6 other dudes to go on a weekend simply because she finds you guys cool to hang out with, but NOT in a relationship sense. You are, in effect, the girlfriends she doesn't have.

I can't be mad at the girls 'cause based on what you've told us it doesn't sound like she's leading you on. What it sounds like is that you want it to be more than she wants it to be, and are using this invite to convince your ego that it's because she likes you, when really she just wants to have a good time with friends. Either way, if you're looking for more than that and are hoping this trip is a good way to build up interest, you're wasting time - you and 6 other dudes will all be going there with the same goal, and none of you will be successful.

Did I mention that she has already told me that we can cook and havd fun in the jacuzzi?!

Grasping for straws. Of course you can cook - you have to eat while on vacation! Of course you'll have fun in the jacuzzi - it's a friggin' JAZUZZI!! And you'll be in there with 6 other dudes - that's GOTTA be fun, right?? :crackup:

 

[Aristippus]

If you just want to go to enjoy a vacation, great! Don't go if your only purpose is to try to win her over. She's not interested. If she were here's what she would say....."Why don't we get away for the weekend, just you and me? It'll be fun... I'll wear something sexy for you.".... The complete opposite of the scenario you're talking about.

I'd say if you like the people who are going and will have fun with them, consider it like a vacation where the guys are going snowboarding and she's tagging along. That's really all it is. If she is the type that flirts with every guy, see her for the attention wh0re she is and don't feed the beast.

Just consider this a chance to have fun on vacation and not like this is some big deal where you could finally win over the "girl of your dreams". Just enjoy the experience........If you're emotionally invested in this girl then I suggest not going on vacation with the group. You'll be disappointed and your vacation time would be better spent with other people.

Unlike some misguided people who like to throw around the term "sausage fest", I see nothing wrong with hanging out with the guys and vacationing with them. Women shouldn't be the center of everything and whether or not something has value is NOT determined by whether or not women are involved.. Do what you want, when you want, with or without women. Spend time with women when you choose to and avoid women and their drama when you choose to.

 

[zekko]

Just tell her "Sounds like a sausage fest to me, sorry but being in a hot tub with a bunch of dudes ain't my thing. Maybe you and I can do something when you get back."

I like this advice from Robert28, because let's face it, it's true. At least it would be for me. Sausage fest in a hot tub? No thank you.

I also agree with what Floyd25 said in his post here:

Oh yeah... Dont assume you are a special cookie, and that she's not gaming YOU. I dealt with these types before, and they were huge players / *****s. They claimed EVERYONE was their "friend" - only to fool around with all of them - then lie about it. They always had "guy friends" everywhere. But thats only what they said to each individual one. Same bull**** story. They knew how to play the game well, because their entire lives revolved around ****. Lies and manipulations were rampant. No one ever got to "keep" them - because everyone was being played - without knowing it. They all thought they were special and unique and worth keeping over everyone else. Bzzzzt. Wrong. They all got played, and were fed the same lines to feel special and unique. Its how players operate.

Remember: these arent friends - they are OPTIONS. Dont believe otherwise, because they always claim to have zero interest, and have a huge story to tell - only to **** them the next day.

Never trust a very good looking, out-going, flirty girl with only guy friends, or lots of them. Theyre all about the **** and attention. Guaranteed.

Youre currently - I'm guessing - caught up in the challenge. Wanting to be the worthy one to make it out of the pack. But theres such thing as too much competition, too many options, and too many RED FLAGS. Hot girl with only guy friends... Come on. She ain't single for ****. She's "independent" because she befriends and ****s everybody - then jumps to the next guy, and moves the rest to back-up status, to be used as necessary.

Doesn't mean she won't bang you though.

 

[Hate the game..]

Dude the key is have fun, and show your strengths. If she sees you having a blast and doing what you love/ are passionate about she'll respond. LET HER COME TO YOU ON THIS ONE. Don't give special attention to her or do some lame ass attempt at trying to suck up to her. I feel like a lot of guys on this forum forget that by having a great time it shows on the surface, and is literally one of the biggest turn-ons for a girl.