How to Become "Successful?" Lower Your Standards

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Here are three examples of good looking guys who get laid a lot.

#1. This guy has been in the game for a decade, maybe more. He's been going to clubs/bars regularly since he was 18. He was 27/28 when I met him, around 30 now. He claimed a lay count of over 200. I met him about 3 years ago. A lot of nights, he doesn't approach. He's at his "best" in mellower bars and clubs that have fewer people, less chaotic environments and of course less competition.

His primary targets are 6's. Decent looking girls. They ain't ugly. But they sure ain't hot. They're passably attractive, but you might not look at 'em twice either. These girls are usually a little short, a little plump but a relatively cute face. They're often wearing a lot of makeup, hair did, for the weekend out.

#2. I don't know him well. Another late 20's good looking guy. Tall, relatively good looking, good job. Interestingly, he follows a very similar pattern as Guy1. He mainly goes after 6 caliber girls. The girls are more "diverse." Some white, some mexican, some tall, some short. But most are as I described in the first example: short, a little plump, passably cute face, not worth a second glance, unless you are really fvcked up.

Really mellow when sober, becomes hostile and unpredictable when drunk. Has asked several times to go out with me, wing, but I just don't respond. He's way too sloppy.

#3. Good looking guy who gets laid a lot. Same exact pattern. Hones in on one 6 caliber girl, and focuses on her exclusively the entire time he's there.

#4. Short weird wanna be hiphop homie jewish guy. Same thing. Finds that one '6' that night who will give him the time of day and he forgets about everyone and everything else.

I've seen #1 and #2 occasionally with an 8. But generally, they both run through a train of 6's. Girls who are attractive enough for sh1tty sex a couple of times when you're bored or can't get a girlfriend, but you wouldn't want to be with them in a relationship long term.

These guys are the BEST I've seen at pickup. But I've seen good looking guys whose "standards" are far more lax. They will makeout with girls who you'd swear were Mr. Ed. Legitimate horsefaces. Others are banging women in their 50's. Other guys are running through fatties. These are good looking guys.

I kinda sorta understand the mentality, but not really. A lot of these girls are fvcking UGLY. Fat. Old. Genuinely undesirable females and these guys are scooping them up mainly because they are easy pickin's.

If you are newer to the game, and if you envy or think you are jealous of guys with high lay counts, DON'T BE. There is an extremely high probability that almost all of these girls are below average.
 

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I think at some point, you do kinda have to lower your standards especially as you get older and you start to have baggage of your own. I've lowered mine to a degree but not substantially since I still do pretty okay with women. I also think it's a realization and a wake up call when you realize you do get more women if you did lower your standards a bit. I've started being just fine dating women with kids. And it's paid off. As opposed to back then when it was a total deal breaker.
 

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I guess everyone has their standards.

Here´s some of mine:

- No single moms
- No women above 37
- No whales
 

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You have to work your way up.

When you just get in the game out of a relationship, you should absolutely lower standards. You have to get and bang chicks to establish your rotation. One you have an ample supply of women, you can aggressively discard them.

For example, if EBR just gets in the game he’ll get frustrated chasing 8+s. They are harder to come by and game. If EBR is already banging 3-4 HB6s, he’s much less pressed to bang that 8. HB8 can sense this, so is even more likely to bang EBR. When she does, he discards one of the 6s. Over time, EBRs roster of 6s becomes more 7s, 8s, and 9s.

To summarize, the more women I’m banging, the higher my standards become. It’s just supply and demand. My AFC friends are still frustrated chasing 8s and having to beat their meat for months at a time. The HB8s come into my life organically.
 

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I think at some point, you do kinda have to lower your standards especially as you get older and you start to have baggage of your own. I've lowered mine to a degree but not substantially since I still do pretty okay with women. I also think it's a realization and a wake up call when you realize you do get more women if you did lower your standards a bit. I've started being just fine dating women with kids. And it's paid off. As opposed to back then when it was a total deal breaker.
Until you are stuck having to pay for them as your own children or the child makes up stories that you touched them and you end up in jail.
 

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I've known guys who will bang HB8s fairly often, but who will also go for a 3 or 4 if that's what's around. I'm sure they'd prefer the 8s, but as long as there's a hole, that's all they care about.
 

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One should not lower their standards. That is the easy way out. One should improve oneself.
 

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You have to work your way up.

When you just get in the game out of a relationship, you should absolutely lower standards. You have to get and bang chicks to establish your rotation. One you have an ample supply of women, you can aggressively discard them.

For example, if EBR just gets in the game he’ll get frustrated chasing 8+s. They are harder to come by and game. If EBR is already banging 3-4 HB6s, he’s much less pressed to bang that 8. HB8 can sense this, so is even more likely to bang EBR. When she does, he discards one of the 6s. Over time, EBRs roster of 6s becomes more 7s, 8s, and 9s.

To summarize, the more women I’m banging, the higher my standards become. It’s just supply and demand. My AFC friends are still frustrated chasing 8s and having to beat their meat for months at a time. The HB8s come into my life organically.
These guys are already in their "prime" if that's what you wanna call it. Their lays will become less frequent, their targets older or they will just drop out of the game and get married or shack up with some random along the way.

Generally speaking, guys who are in the game for any extended period of time dont wind up with quality. Their bearings for a quality female get lost somewhere along the way.
 

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One should not lower their standards. That is the easy way out. One should improve oneself.
Yeah, I'm clearly not advocating this. As in almost all of my posts, I'm simply the neutral observer pointing out what's going on. These guys are clearly not getting higher quality women. They are clearly the complete opposite of the example of how to land the highest quality women.
 

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Just date and fvck whatever you want. Garbage women come in all shapes, colors and sizes. 95% of them aren't worth considering for a LTR, so just go out there and have fun fvcking whatever you can bag. As long as looking at her doesn't repulse you, just take her home, stick you d1ck in her, and toss her away when something about her starts to piss you off.

If she looks good, fvck the 5hit out of her. If she's mediocre, fvck the 5hit out of her too. They're both likely on the same level of garbage with male orbiters and a high odometer.
 

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Here are three examples of good looking guys who get laid a lot.

#1. This guy has been in the game for a decade, maybe more. He's been going to clubs/bars regularly since he was 18. He was 27/28 when I met him, around 30 now. He claimed a lay count of over 200. I met him about 3 years ago. A lot of nights, he doesn't approach. He's at his "best" in mellower bars and clubs that have fewer people, less chaotic environments and of course less competition.

His primary targets are 6's. Decent looking girls. They ain't ugly. But they sure ain't hot. They're passably attractive, but you might not look at 'em twice either. These girls are usually a little short, a little plump but a relatively cute face. They're often wearing a lot of makeup, hair did, for the weekend out.

#2. I don't know him well. Another late 20's good looking guy. Tall, relatively good looking, good job. Interestingly, he follows a very similar pattern as Guy1. He mainly goes after 6 caliber girls. The girls are more "diverse." Some white, some mexican, some tall, some short. But most are as I described in the first example: short, a little plump, passably cute face, not worth a second glance, unless you are really fvcked up.

Really mellow when sober, becomes hostile and unpredictable when drunk. Has asked several times to go out with me, wing, but I just don't respond. He's way too sloppy.

#3. Good looking guy who gets laid a lot. Same exact pattern. Hones in on one 6 caliber girl, and focuses on her exclusively the entire time he's there.

#4. Short weird wanna be hiphop homie jewish guy. Same thing. Finds that one '6' that night who will give him the time of day and he forgets about everyone and everything else.

I've seen #1 and #2 occasionally with an 8. But generally, they both run through a train of 6's. Girls who are attractive enough for sh1tty sex a couple of times when you're bored or can't get a girlfriend, but you wouldn't want to be with them in a relationship long term.

These guys are the BEST I've seen at pickup. But I've seen good looking guys whose "standards" are far more lax. They will makeout with girls who you'd swear were Mr. Ed. Legitimate horsefaces. Others are banging women in their 50's. Other guys are running through fatties. These are good looking guys.

I kinda sorta understand the mentality, but not really. A lot of these girls are fvcking UGLY. Fat. Old. Genuinely undesirable females and these guys are scooping them up mainly because they are easy pickin's.

If you are newer to the game, and if you envy or think you are jealous of guys with high lay counts, DON'T BE. There is an extremely high probability that almost all of these girls are below average.
Here's your average guys.. High quality man didn't do this
 

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Yeah, I'm clearly not advocating this. As in almost all of my posts, I'm simply the neutral observer pointing out what's going on. These guys are clearly not getting higher quality women. They are clearly the complete opposite of the example of how to land the highest quality women.
False. There is nothing about this that signals they’ll fail to run the same game on a 9. I am also a guy who usually bangs 6s, but that’s after I’ve talked to every 8 in the bar. I always start with the highest quality woman and work my way down. Here’s the key: I am fearless when it comes to approaching hot women. I do not put them on a pedestal because I know I will be getting laid after 50%+ of my outings. Many of my friends who have “higher standards” never have the balls to approach higher caliber women.

Edit: and I’d say 10-20% of my lays are 8s or 9s. Sure, 95% of them reject me and I sleep with a 6 instead, but every few weeks one doesn’t. That’s more than most can say. It’s all about numbers and not caring about rejection.
 

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I've lowered mine to a degree, I'm a good looking guy but am losing my hair. I have the bald look, but currently let myself go. That's why I'm asking so many workout questions in health and fitness
I've never been shredded always been stocky. So my goal is to get my body in the best shape it's ever been. Just did loads of cardio yesterday at the gym. When my goals are reached I'm not going to lower my standards because I'm going to be lean and shredded. As for my hair I'll just shave it all off, but I won't be lower my standards drastically or if at all
 

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Just date and fvck whatever you want. Garbage women come in all shapes, colors and sizes. 95% of them aren't worth considering for a LTR, so just go out there and have fun fvcking whatever you can bag. As long as looking at her doesn't repulse you, just take her home, stick you d1ck in her, and toss her away when something about her starts to piss you off.

If she looks good, fvck the 5hit out of her. If she's mediocre, fvck the 5hit out of her too. They're both likely on the same level of garbage with male orbiters and a high odometer.
Haha now this is perfect wisdom.

I don't get this preoccupation with HB 8-10.

It's ridiculous.

I could take an average looking Jane Doe off the streets and dump her noob as$ with a makeup artist and out pops HB 8 -10.

Give an average looking women money and out comes wonder women.
 

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I've lowered mine to a degree, I'm a good looking guy but am losing my hair. I have the bald look, but currently let myself go. That's why I'm asking so many workout questions in health and fitness
I've never been shredded always been stocky. So my goal is to get my body in the best shape it's ever been. Just did loads of cardio yesterday at the gym. When my goals are reached I'm not going to lower my standards because I'm going to be lean and shredded. As for my hair I'll just shave it all off, but I won't be lower my standards drastically or if at all

if you want to get in shape dude, you HAVE to focus on diet. Working out is great but 90% of being in shape IS DIET, DIET AND MORE DIET

You have to learn to be okay eating a very small amount of healthy food. The smaller that amount is, the faster you'll get ripped
 

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Haha now this is perfect wisdom.

I don't get this preoccupation with HB 8-10.

It's ridiculous.

I could take an average looking Jane Doe off the streets and dump her noob as$ with a makeup artist and out pops HB 8 -10.

Give an average looking women money and out comes wonder women.

ehhhh. Even at the gym, where most women don't wear much makeup, you can separate a 8 from a 5.

Good looking women have nice skin, pretty eyes, pretty hair, nice lips, etc... That's all genetic
 

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False. There is nothing about this that signals they’ll fail to run the same game on a 9. I am also a guy who usually bangs 6s, but that’s after I’ve talked to every 8 in the bar. I always start with the highest quality woman and work my way down. Here’s the key: I am fearless when it comes to approaching hot women. I do not put them on a pedestal because I know I will be getting laid after 50%+ of my outings. Many of my friends who have “higher standards” never have the balls to approach higher caliber women.

Edit: and I’d say 10-20% of my lays are 8s or 9s. Sure, 95% of them reject me and I sleep with a 6 instead, but every few weeks one doesn’t. That’s more than most can say. It’s all about numbers and not caring about rejection.

the 8s and 9s who reject you - are they just rejecting you to have sex with them that night as in some of them would go out on a date with you but don't want to sleep with you that quickly?
 
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