How to become an approach machine

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Hey guys, I've been into pick up for a while now, and one of my biggest sticking points even now is approaching. When I'm not feeling it, i barely approach. When I'm feeling it, i might approach 10 sets but even that is a stretch. However I've found a way to not only make myself approach, but also to make me feel a strong URGE to approach. This has helped me to the point that I've become an approach machine. No i'm not talking about alcohol. I'm talking about both a mentality and a social strategy.

Think of the last time you went out and could not approach. It was likely due to intimidation. Perhaps you went to the venue feeling like you're going to rip the place apart, yet as soon as you walk through the door you're overwhelmed by all the hotties and all the energy. In no time you are standing there waiting for the perfect oportunity to start, and BAM! You're in your head. You feel low value, and you start making excuses to not approach. You're back in your shell. Now you need a drink just to approach otherwise your night will be a total waste. You take one drink and not only did you break the no drinking rule of pick up, but after a while you start going back into your shell so you need another drink, and another... Pretty soon the whole idea of evolving into an alpha male is out the window and you're still a beta with a fake, temporary feeling of confidence from the alcohol. And all this because the pressure you put on yourself to have a fun night getting girls numbers became too intimidating.

In order to become an approaching machine, you must first accept one crucial fact: You have low confidence when it comes to hot girls, so you will find it very intimidating to approach the HB or any difficult set. Now lets accept the second fact: The only time you will have enough balls to approach the sets you really want to approach is when you have social momentum. By social momentum I mean where you have so much social acceptance that you feel like you own the place. If you dont believe me that you have to have social momentum to approach the difficult sets, then look at your past. Remember the times when you approached the hot sets, one after another. Its likely that you were in the zone that night. You didnt give a **** what the spectators would think, and you didnt care about best openers or perfect timing. You just went in. Accepting that you must have social momentum to approach any hot or difficult set is the mindset you must adopt. Next is the strategy.

The strategy is to relieve yourself from the pressure of approaching. Once you do this, you will feel the freedom that will make you want and even NEED to approach. The strategy is to make gaining social momentum your only goal when you go out. How? By simply interacting with others. The great thing is you dont have to approach hot girls to gain social momentum and you dont even need to hook or gain the crowd's acceptance, you can gain social momentum simply by approaching anybody. So you want to start your night simply by approaching the sets you do not care about. Approach a random guy, an ugly girl, etc. I call them "throwaway" sets, they are sets that you do not want to hook. Approach a few of them and raise the scale to go for harder sets as you feel more comfortable. And if you see a set of hot girls, its ok if you do not approach them yet, because your goal is to gain social momentum. If you start thinking about how you should be approaching them, then you're not ready yet, so ignore them, instead approach more throw away sets. After less than an hour of just approaching thowaway sets you will feel have so much social momentum that you will see no barrier between you and any HB. You will actually feel the urge to approach those sets that you really want with minor hesitation.

The beauty of all this is that when you build momentum one night, alot of it will stay there for the next night. So you find yourself needing to approach fewer and fewer throwaways and jumping right into the high value sets.
So in summary, you must accept the fact that you don't have the confidence to approach hot girls. You can gain this confidence by simply gaining social momentum. You can gain social momentum by approaching those sets you don't care about. Let me know how it works for you!
 

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The PUA model is approach 100 girls, and if 5 of them talk to you, it's a success.

The PUA community essentially ruined dating for men, because it completely pedestalized women and now women have all the power.

I don't really get this obsession with "approaching". It's creepy for women (if you were a woman, you wouldn't want to get approached randomly like that).

Most guys just need to focus on getting to know women through other means - like through a passion for a particular activity and such. This is more likely to lead to something meaningful.

Let's say you meet a girl through "approaching" and she gives you her number. You guys go on a date, maybe fvck, but eventually she will disappear and you're back to square one. What good did this do for you?
 

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SkinnyGuy said:
I don't really get this obsession with "approaching"... Most guys just need to focus on getting to know women through other means - like through a passion for a particular activity and such. This is more likely to lead to something meaningful.
I'm not intending to jab at you but why would anyone take the advice of someone who hasn't had a girlfriend in 10 years? Who are you to say what is likely to lead to something meaningful?

Seems to me, if you haven't had a girlfriend in 10 years I'm going to do the exact opposite of what you recommend.

While you're sitting home "fapping," they're approaching. Which activity is really more likely to lead to something meaningful?
 

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Driggs said:
I'm not intending to jab at you but why would anyone take the advice of someone who hasn't had a girlfriend in 10 years? Who are you to say what is likely to lead to something meaningful?

Seems to me, if you haven't had a girlfriend in 10 years I'm going to do the exact opposite of what you recommend.

Actually, my problem was that I did do approaches for those years and it didn't work.

Now, if you're Brad Pitt then go ahead! Approaching will get you laid for sure. But for most guys it does nothing but harm them mentally. There is a cost to approaching and getting rejected. Most guys won't agree with me because they have too much of an ego, but it's true.

I started not caring about women and not approaching and now I have girls interested in getting to know me. This is because I axed the desperation.

Basically approaching random women = desperation. No true DJ would do it cause he doesn't need to.
 

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skinnyguy said:
The PUA model is approach 100 girls, and if 5 of them talk to you, it's a success.

The PUA community essentially ruined dating for men, because it completely pedestalized women and now women have all the power.

I don't really get this obsession with "approaching". It's creepy for women (if you were a woman, you wouldn't want to get approached randomly like that).

Most guys just need to focus on getting to know women through other means - like through a passion for a particular activity and such. This is more likely to lead to something meaningful.

Let's say you meet a girl through "approaching" and she gives you her number. You guys go on a date, maybe fvck, but eventually she will disappear and you're back to square one. What good did this do for you?
Thats the pessimistic way of looking at it I guess.
My side:
Were it not for cold approaching I basically would not get laid.
I met my current gf from cold approach. I met her at a new years party.
Were it not for cold approaching, I would be much more introverted at work and in any social event.
Even though the idea of getting cold approached is uncomfortable for girls, they welcome it if you make them feel in the moment. Of course if you do it in a creepy way they will feel uncomfortable.
I have been cold approached by girls many times.

Cold approaching, just like any other fear, is more dramatic in your head than in real life. You do the approach, girl gives you her number, or goes in an insta-date, or rejects you. Then you you move on. Nobody dies, the Earth continues turning on its axis, and birds continue chirping, and you approach the next set.

I think you need to go out and do some cold approaching. Theres nothing more magical than approaching a girl you find attractive and finding out you have tons of things in common.

Dont let social stigma stop you from doing what ever the f*&% you want, because those things will actually bring you lasting joy.
 

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I'm not Brad Pitt either but I have had surprising success with cold approaches. It doesn't seem like it should work but it does.

Basically approaching random women = desperation. No true DJ would do it cause he doesn't need to.
Who are you to say what a true don juan would do? Once again, you haven't had a girlfriend in over a decade. Seems to me you should be listening to what other people have to say rather than shooting them down.

There is a cost to approaching and getting rejected. Most guys won't agree with me because they have too much of an ego, but it's true.
If you are taking rejection that hard, you are the one who has too much of an ego. Approaching costs nothing, it's just a step beyond general pleasantries and if you are getting all gutted about it you need to approach more until it doesn't bother you anymore.
 

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n00bPimp said:
Thats the pessimistic way of looking at it I guess.
My side:
Were it not for cold approaching I basically would not get laid.
I met my current gf from cold approach. I met her at a new years party.
Were it not for cold approaching, I would be much more introverted at work and in any social event.
Even though the idea of getting cold approached is uncomfortable for girls, they welcome it if you make them feel in the moment. Of course if you do it in a creepy way they will feel uncomfortable.
I have been cold approached by girls many times.

Cold approaching, just like any other fear, is more dramatic in your head than in real life. You do the approach, girl gives you her number, or goes in an insta-date, or rejects you. Then you you move on. Nobody dies, the Earth continues turning on its axis, and birds continue chirping, and you approach the next set.

I think you need to go out and do some cold approaching. Theres nothing more magical than approaching a girl you find attractive and finding out you have tons of things in common.

Dont let social stigma stop you from doing what ever the f*&% you want, because those things will actually bring you lasting joy.

Dude I DID cold approach for years. It got me nowhere. Now, if it got you somewhere, that's great.

I just personally don't like it because you have no status when a girl meets you randomly and it just seems inefficient to me. Most girls won't go out with a guy unless they know a little about him, or know who his friends are. Also they are more likely to go out with you if they know your professional background (I'm not 20 years old...I guess it works better for young guys). I've had much more success in getting dates with girls who knew about me. I went out with an HB 8 a few weeks ago, and she would have never gone out with me if she didn't know me through work. Status is everything.
 

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skinnyguy said:
Actually, my problem was that I did do approaches for those years and it didn't work.

Now, if you're Brad Pitt then go ahead! Approaching will get you laid for sure. But for most guys it does nothing but harm them mentally. There is a cost to approaching and getting rejected. Most guys won't agree with me because they have too much of an ego, but it's true.

I started not caring about women and not approaching and now I have girls interested in getting to know me. This is because I axed the desperation.

Basically approaching random women = desperation. No true DJ would do it cause he doesn't need to.
I think you'll benefit a lot from watching this
Stranger kisses 3 women at mall
 

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Skinnyguy, I think your problem is internal.
 

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Skinnyguy, I think your problem is internal.

My problem WAS internal when I was desperate and h0rny. Now I'm not anymore and I feel way more confident.

The best way to meet someone who's not a slvt is if you focus on avenues in which the girl is likely to want to get to know you. If you want a slvt then go right ahead and approach them at a club. But you're just going to end up bitter and jaded on SOS...talking about how you hate women and they are all slvts.

I'm going to start playing in a jazz combo and this will lead me to meeting more women naturally. Approaching is so "forced" and awkward that it will lead many guys to becoming bitter.

If you spend time on POF and such you're just going to end up a lonely, h0rny man with no prospects. If you really think you are the prize, you will not cold approach because you know you can get women to be interested in you without doing that.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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What do you think of these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTuBf4BrIgE

I can't tell if they are staged or not, but man I want that first woman!
Good Sh*t!

I'm good looking myself. Not 6'1, but that's alright. I'm ok with 5'8.

Did something like this last friday, it was in a party though, so the mood was acceptable.

I actually want to try this one out...
 

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Let me know how it goes. I'm gonna use the same thing myself If I can pluck up the courage - not that there is an abundance of girls in such a rural area as I live in where 80% of people are retired.

Hopefully I don't chicken out!
 

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Eternal_water said:
Let me know how it goes. I'm gonna use the same thing myself If I can pluck up the courage - not that there is an abundance of girls in such a rural area as I live in where 80% of people are retired.

Hopefully I don't chicken out!
Limiting Beliefs...

Just kill them. As I've said, I'm 5'8, which is short, and this was a limiting belief throghout my whole life. And then one day I said f**k this.

My last GF, was 2 inches taller than me, and I could not care less. In horizontal we are all the same.
 

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Limiting Beliefs...

Just kill them. As I've said, I'm 5'8, which is short, and this was a limiting belief throghout my whole life. And then one day I said f**k this.

My last GF, was 2 inches taller than me, and I could not care less. In horizontal we are all the same.
IDK but old people seems like a legit excuse. Unless one's into grannies (GILFs).
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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IDK but old people seems like a legit excuse. Unless one's into grannies (GILFs).
Yeah, but is still an excuse.

What about the other 20%??

Stop fooling yourself man... Limiting Beliefs. Just kill them already!
 
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