How to be a bad Boy?

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Well it seems like its common knowledge that girls like Bad Boy's and they want to have sex with them. Its not that the Bad boy is special that makes the girls want to have sex with him, but its what he does that makes him a "bad boy" agressive, loud, ****y, confident etc..You guys know the drill.

Now how does a guy raised to treat women right and show them respect and put them on a pedistal, I mean I keep trying to put them up there cuz they have a pair of titties and a ****.

What can a man do to slowly transform himself to adopt the same ideas the "bad boy" does.

Plus most advice thats given in self help is unhelpful since its just dications of cold advice, such as "be more confident blah"

I wish there was a software that I could upload to change my attitudes.

What can I physically or mentally do that will start chaning my thought patterns about women and how to treat them.

Ex: NLP, slapping women (joke), hoping up and down etc. (You get the point)
 

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I was raised to treat women with respect... But I'm still kinda a bad boy naturally.. I inherited it from my dad..

If you're not a bad boy and you're trying to fake it.. haha, don't try.. women can see through the smoke.. Just be confident and work on your apperance and you'll do fine!
 

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It really is a generalisation that women like badboys. They just don't like sweet, supplicating nice guys.

Basically, bad boys are confident, they have balls to hit on women and don't worry about offending them with their advances. It's their confidence and the fact they aren't afraid of their sexuality that women find attractive, not their disrespectful behaviour. In fact, a respectful guy who is confident and not afraid to be a man, will outgame a badboy any day.

Forget trying to be a badboy and just focus on improving your confidence instead.
 
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Women don't like "bad boys" they like "dominant/masculine boys"

It does not matter what your personality is, just if you display the presence of dominance.

Dominance is totally from inner game. You must begin to think like an alpha would think, then you form natural beliefs similar to him, now you natural behave, walk, talk, think, and do things like an alpha.

That is what we call masculinity.

That is what women are attracted to, it's a certain behavior, attitude, and presence.

I am an alpha, but I am a total nice guy and gentlemen. I don't buy her things on the first date because of my own rules, you can if you want, but just understand that once you form those beliefs, just as you are lusting for her she is lusting a hell of a lot more for you right now.

Just as a lesson. " Bad boys" or as I call them, boys who grew up in bad environments, get more women than nicer guys, because the nice guys' masculinity and "thoughts like alpha males" were beat out of them. Nice guys were beat by mommy and daddy growing up on anything that even considered "alpha." This caused the child to form beliefs of low self esteem, beta maleness, etc. Bad boys on the other hand might have been beat as well, but they were stubborn and did not lose their "alpha beliefs."
Do you notice that if two children get whooped. One child crys "saddenly" as to "why are they doing this to me?" This child forms beliefs that are similar to the beta male. The second child gets whooped and crys "angerly" as to say, "hit me again and I'll fvck you up." This child forms beliefs that are similar to the alpha male.

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It's interesting discussion. John Alanis' take on a bad-boy persona is unique, he talks about developing a 'bad boy smile', or would define bad boy as a mischevious boy getting into trouble, as opposed to an alpha-male, and encourages people to learn a 'bad-boy' smile, that smile like you are up to something, and learn to use that on women.
 
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Bad boys don't get fvcked, masculine boys do.
Nice boys don't get fvcked, masculine boys do.

I know nice guys who get rejected all over the place because they are beta males. I know bad boys who get NO action because they are beta males.

I've already explained attraction. If women ONLY fvcked bad boys, nice, cool guys would get no action, hell isn't that what you guys' definition of a don juan is, a guy with the sexuality of the bad boy but the personality of the nice guy.

Most bad boys are masucline because if they were not, they would be dead. Most bad boys grew up in fvcked up environments that thinking like a beta male would get you killed or beat the fvck up. That's why most bad boys are alpha.

Most nice boys grew up in homes that were good environments, and any act of "alpha" was beat out of them by mommy and daddy, thus, the reason for most beta males.

A woman's dream is the nice guy who's masculine, it's like I get the thug and the college student. In the end, the nice guy with masculinity will beat the bad boy with masculinity because the nice guy has more to offer and more value.

But it's masculinity that does it.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
It's interesting discussion. John Alanis' take on a bad-boy persona is unique, he talks about developing a 'bad boy smile', or would define bad boy as a mischevious boy getting into trouble, as opposed to an alpha-male, and encourages people to learn a 'bad-boy' smile, that smile like you are up to something, and learn to use that on women.
Yea, that works...Its the mischivous smile that gets em intrigued like CRAZY. Field tested it many times. The thing is, im not even a bad boy but my mannerisms and the way I look totally give it off. My best advice to get rid of the beta male mentality is to:

1)Think about helping yourself more. Don't be so giving. When did you ever catch a bad boy giving a girl gifts/compliments randomly? What the bad boy shows the girl is the obvious fact that he WANTS her, not NEEDS her. It sounds conceited and it probably is but it makes you less needy which is an AFC trait. We don't want that.

2)Knock that damn pedistal down...It took me a while to knock the sh!t out of my pedistal and then mash it into a million pieces but it helps. You suddenly notice that you look at girls differently and you'll act more dominant around them. In a sense, they've become objects to you rather than the goddess they once were to you.
 

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ssj245 said:
Well it seems like its common knowledge that girls like Bad Boy's and they want to have sex with them. Its not that the Bad boy is special that makes the girls want to have sex with him, but its what he does that makes him a "bad boy" agressive, loud, ****y, confident etc..You guys know the drill.

Now how does a guy raised to treat women right and show them respect and put them on a pedistal, I mean I keep trying to put them up there cuz they have a pair of titties and a ****.

What can a man do to slowly transform himself to adopt the same ideas the "bad boy" does.

Plus most advice thats given in self help is unhelpful since its just dications of cold advice, such as "be more confident blah"

I wish there was a software that I could upload to change my attitudes.

What can I physically or mentally do that will start chaning my thought patterns about women and how to treat them.

Ex: NLP, slapping women (joke), hoping up and down etc. (You get the point)
Like I said on the last 'badboy' thread (http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=70831): I used to do the whole hardcore, tough guy gig... Roll up in the Viper, metal blaring, make a brazen egress... had the whole look going, the motorcycle boots, the chain drive, sinister shades, foul mouth, dont-give-a-fvck-attitude. It didn't attract sh1t. :down:

It's not that it wasn't sincere, I have my badboy tendencies... and have always felt comfortable being the non-confomist, It just didn't pull. I have much better luck with dress shirts, slacks, and loafers.
 

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"How to be a bad Boy?"

Bloody pathetic.
 
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Rebound Material said:
Yea, that works...Its the mischivous smile that gets em intrigued like CRAZY. Field tested it many times.
Excellent. I'll try it myself then.
 

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"How to be a bad Boy?"

Bloody pathetic.
Welcome to SS:down:
 

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Y halo thar.
 

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From an article:

How To Be A Bad Boy

You know the type -- the swaggering, ****y, macho jerk who treats women like they're replaceable, while they're waiting in line to climb into his bed. Men hate these guys, yet women love them.

Ask any single woman on the street what she's looking for in a man and she'll tell you that she wants a nice guy with a sense of humor who will treat her well. But then she'll turn around and fall all over herself trying to get to a Bad Boy who will use and abuse her.

What's going on here?

Granted, what women say and what they actually do are generally miles apart, but even the usual female self-deceit doesn't seem to cover this one. So let's look first at some of the traits of the typical Bad Boy and see what we can learn from him.

The typical Bad Boy:
• is ****y, arrogant
• always puts himself first
• is inattentive to a woman's needs
• does what he wants when he wants to do it, regardless of what anyone else thinks
• acts like a loose cannon
• struts his masculine sexuality
• isn't even remotely a "nice" guy
• treats women badly
• often uses women for sex

All negative character traits, to say the least. Yet women flock to these creeps in droves. Why? No sane woman would openly choose to be abused, so there must be some other factors operational here. To find the answer, we must examine the positive side of the Bad Boy traits to see what women are really attracted to.

A Bad Boy exudes untamed masculinity, independence and confidence. To women, these traits -- especially confidence -- are an aphrodisiac. The problem is, in the hands of the Bad Boy, confidence becomes selfish arrogance. But women are responding to guys like this on a purely elemental, emotional level.

Just as men are turned on by a woman's femininity, so too do women respond to overt male masculinity -- and the Bad Boy has it in buckets. What's going on here is that she's having a gut reaction to his confidence and male strength, and is blind to anything else.

So the trick is to learn to take the Bad Boy's negative traits and spin them in a positive direction to make them work for you -- in other words, to become a Bad Boy without really being "bad." This way, you can still maintain your gentleman status without turning into an abusive jerk.

Here are a few things you can do to improve your Bad Boy status…

Dial up the independence

Act as if you couldn't possibly care less about getting women. Never change who you are to please a woman or in the hope that you'll get her into bed. Get involved in your own life and your own interests. Make plenty of time for male stuff. Your attitude should be: "This is who I am -- if you like it, fine; if you don't, leave."

Don't show emotions
Be indifferent and don't show you care. You should have a poker face at all times. Remain mysterious and don't let women know what you're thinking. Keep them guessing. Furthermore, ration your words and make sure everything you say has a purpose. Don't volunteer information. Simply answer a question if asked.

Put the kibosh on crap
Refuse to tolerate any female BS. When she tries to test you, don't give in -- tell her to grow up. Don't be afraid to say "no." Stand your ground, or simply walk away from a situation. Get her off the pedestal. Run the relationship by your rules, not hers. If you don't agree with her, say so -- don't be a doormat in the hope of getting laid. And if she doesn't like it, show her the door.

Light your fire
Bad Boys are all about sexual confidence, and women appreciate confident lovers. So don't be afraid to let your natural masculine sexuality shine. This doesn't mean you should go around leering at female chests all day, but you should be comfortable and confident about letting a woman know you're attracted to her without becoming a pawing jerk. And when you do step up to the plate, make sure you know what you're doing in the bedroom.

Make yourself scarce
For women, guys who are too available are boring. Bad Boys are selfishly independent -- they aren't desperately hanging around women, hoping to get tossed a few scraps of attention. Women always want what they can't have, so make yourself busy and scarce. Be a mystery man. Be unpredictable. Be a challenge -- let her do some work to get you.

Turn on the confidence
Bad Boys always assume that women want them -- insecurity has no place in their personal vocabularies. This is the exact opposite of the usual male desperation. So your attitude should be that you're the catch, not that women are doing you a favor by talking to you.

You can't afford to be too nice -- catering to women, agreeing with every word they utter, paying for female attention (all things Bad Boys don't do) -- because women see this as "weak" and wimpy.

Be decisive and don't hesitate when talking. Don't second-guess yourself after you've made a decision. Voice your opinion and don't worry about offending others.

Bad boys, bad boys...Bad Boys may be jerks, but they have a lot to teach the average guy about attracting women. By observing a few of these typical Bad Boy traits in action, you can learn to use them to your advantage without giving up your nice status.

Even if you don't look like Brad Pitt, you can still attract lots of women simply by oozing male confidence.
 

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No doubt, no doubt.
 
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Based on the John Alanis program, which I just reviewed again tonight, one must develop a 'naughty smile', nor not be afraid of sexuality when interacting with women. So, if you are thinking 'naughty' thoughts, give the girl a naughty smile after you are checking her out, and if she smiles back, bingo - ask her what she is smiling about if there is a seductive smile you are seeing. If she gets offended or turns away, well, you didn't waste any time approaching or talking to her, you've already tested the waters.

The classic 'bad boy' smile in Hollywood movie "Red Eye", on this scene, the airline attendent thought a guy had a quickie with a girl in the airplane washroom, and told him "This is not a motel", and the male character smiled and said 'sure' and walked away. That smile captures the essence of a bad boy smile the way it was portrayed. So I think I'm getting the idea.

I think a 'bad boy' smile or attributes can be elicited by doing the following activities:

- Honking my horn if I see a HB on the street and wave at her.

- Do not be afraid to test the waters to say something that may be 'sexual', like that natural DJ did when he said 'that popped my boner' when the girl replied of what she was into.

- ALTERNATE between the serious you content, and naughty content - show you may have a 'naughty and playful' side, while at the same time showing that the real you is still someone with depth, charm and class.

- Look at practical joke shows such as "just for gags" to get into the slap-stick naughty style humour. If you get a wind of the mischeviousness of that humour - see if you can bring it up again when you are smiling at a girl.

My interpretation and application of what John Alanis is saying is to have an 'adolescent' type of bad-boy streak that displays on the side, and push the envelope so to speak when flirting.
 
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